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Having the government literally enforce slavery isn't in living memory but Americans learn about it in school.

ssalka 3y ago
It actually is in living memory: the 13th amendment expressly grants the government the right to use slavery as punishment for a crime. https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-13/ https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-13/
- EMIRELADERO 3y ago
  While the point still stands, the 13th Amendment's exception for punishment doesn't ban prison labor as we know it today. When it was ratified, "involuntary servitude" was only applicable to private parties, not labor performed for the State. If the exception didn't exist, the 13th would have still allowed for prison labor. What the exception does is ban the now-extint practice of "convict leasing"[1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convict_leasing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convict_leasing
  - reactordev 3y ago
    It still happens…
  - sidewndr46 3y ago
    Reality strongly disagrees here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kids_for_cash_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kids_for_cash_scandal
    - beaeglebeached 3y ago
      Anything involving juveniles and family law is a magnet for psychopaths because the cases are sealed and basically impossible for the public to monitor for abuse. If you look at any secret government system like this it inevitably becomes a den for the most vile of parasites who thrive in darkness. The naive front, is this secrecy is in the 'interest of the children' (meme.jpg), and thus they haven't a right to public adjudication. Corrupt judges salivate for the proceeds of that.
reactordev 3y ago
Look into private prisons and work camps, where they mostly work - it’s on farms. Just like the good old days. And master still manages to pay 27¢ an hour ($2.16 a day!).
rascul 3y ago
Lots of US slave soldiers who fought in Vietnam are still alive.

It actually is in living memory: the 13th amendment expressly grants the government the right to use slavery as punishment for a crime. https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-13/ https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-13/

EMIRELADERO 3y ago
While the point still stands, the 13th Amendment's exception for punishment doesn't ban prison labor as we know it today. When it was ratified, "involuntary servitude" was only applicable to private parties, not labor performed for the State. If the exception didn't exist, the 13th would have still allowed for prison labor. What the exception does is ban the now-extint practice of "convict leasing"[1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convict_leasing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convict_leasing
- reactordev 3y ago
  It still happens…
- sidewndr46 3y ago
  Reality strongly disagrees here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kids_for_cash_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kids_for_cash_scandal
  - beaeglebeached 3y ago
    Anything involving juveniles and family law is a magnet for psychopaths because the cases are sealed and basically impossible for the public to monitor for abuse. If you look at any secret government system like this it inevitably becomes a den for the most vile of parasites who thrive in darkness. The naive front, is this secrecy is in the 'interest of the children' (meme.jpg), and thus they haven't a right to public adjudication. Corrupt judges salivate for the proceeds of that.

reactordev 3y ago

Look into private prisons and work camps, where they mostly work - it’s on farms. Just like the good old days. And master still manages to pay 27¢ an hour ($2.16 a day!).

rascul 3y ago

Lots of US slave soldiers who fought in Vietnam are still alive.