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Mr. Rogers' music was intricate (2020) [video]
- duxup 3y agoMr Rogers always seemed to be communicating with kids and adults as a peer, never talking down to them "just as kids", and the music selected for his show seems quite similar.
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- atleastoptimal 3y agoSimilarly this is why I feel kids were drawn to Steve from Blues Clues.
- popmatrix 3y agoThe Atlantic spoke about how intentional Mr. Roger's communication was on his show which is an interesting read: (google cache) https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:lXyHzaEb-a0J:https://www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2018/06/mr-rogers-neighborhood-talking-to-kids/562352 https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:lXyHza...
- WaffleIronMaker 3y agoOriginal Link: https://www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2018/06/mr-rogers-neighborhood-talking-to-kids/562352/ https://www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2018/06/mr-rogers... Internet Archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20231227020506/https://www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2018/06/mr-rogers-neighborhood-talking-to-kids/562352/ https://web.archive.org/web/20231227020506/https://www.theat...
- Projectiboga 3y agoI was born in 1968. I got an hour of TV each afternoon, I always did Sesame Street and Mr Roger's Neighborhood, I really liked his whole show and I assume I learned a lot from him.
- CaliforniaKarl 3y agoI shortened the title from "Mr. Rogers' Music Was Way More Intricate Than You Remember"
- duxup 3y agoI like the "Mr. Rogers' Music Was Intricate" title way better. Thank you.
- zwieback 3y agoI like Johnny Costa but always found Mr. Rogers himself creepy and never more so than when he was singing.
- mandmandam 3y agoYou found Mr. Rogers creepy? ... I guess that proves you can't please everyone. Mr. Rogers is literally seen as the incarnation of wholesomeness, part of the holy secular trinity of positive male role models with Levar Burton and Bob Ross. You might consider not casting aspersions based on absolutely nothing. If there were any allegations of creepiness they'd have come out by now, so like... Keep his name out yo mouth.
- zwieback 3y agoSorry, man, just my personal reaction. I'm with you on Levar Burton and Bob Ross though.
- waynesonfire 3y agoWhat kind of response did you think you were going to get?
- zwieback 3y agoI didn't have any expectation at all, just contributing my opinion. I value all the feedback I'm getting and totally willing to agree that he was a fine person and I'm an outlier. Doesn't change my gut reaction, though.
- turtlebits 3y agoThe comment probably says more about you than Fred Rogers, but why post something irrelevant to the article?
- dylan604 3y agoTo me, any adult that was that friendly towards kids probably had a panel van. It definitely comes across with that vibe to me. It's a very fine line, and better safe than sorry. I can get the ick vibe and make decisions on that without making any possibly incorrect disparaging remarks about someone. It's just the internal alarms do go off when grown men are attracted to children that are not their own. Yes, I'm painting with a very broad brush, but again safe than sorry.
- Neff 3y agoI really like his breakdowns of pop culture music. His videos on The Peanuts and Cowboy Bebop are such fun dives into unexpected intricacies
- jzb 3y agoI'm always down for learning more about Fred Rogers and his show. Such an amazing individual. Doesn't look like he recorded much (outside the show), but definitely will be looking into what he has recorded.
- chimeracoder 3y ago> Doesn't look like he recorded much (outside the show), but definitely will be looking into what he has recorded. For anyone who hasn't seen it, one must-see video outside the show is Fred Rogers testifying before the Senate in 1969, in order to defend funding for public television. He is able to win over an incredibly rude and hostile senator in just a few minutes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKy7ljRr0AA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKy7ljRr0AA
- lupire 3y agoWhy exaggerate and insult like that? The Senator was not rude or hostile.
- dwringer 3y agoI can only speculate, but I have seen this linked on social media dozens of times, often including that detail of "shutting down an extremely hostile senator" in the caption. So whether or not one interprets the senator as rude or hostile, people are getting exposed to that idea pretty regularly.
- zdragnar 3y agoThat isn't a justification. "I heard someone else say it" doesn't remove one's own personal accountability for saying it as well. I imagine this is a sentiment that Mr. Rogers would agree with.
- dwringer 3y agoI'd have to agree, my only point was that people may think they remember having watched it a certain way simply because they read the viral headlines so many times
- slugmass 3y agoFred Rogers was a music composition major at Rollins College[1] and his wife Sara Joanne Byrd majored in piano[2]. So it is no wonder that he cared about the music on his TV show. [1] <https://scholarship.rollins.edu/tomokan/67 https://scholarship.rollins.edu/tomokan/67> page 69. [2] <https://scholarship.rollins.edu/tomokan/66 https://scholarship.rollins.edu/tomokan/66>
- pimlottc 3y agoThere's actually a really nice clip of Mr Rogers playing piano himself in the video @ 5:29: https://youtu.be/Z40SZ77CHK0?si=mo1WRUFcZyL4XH7h&t=329 https://youtu.be/Z40SZ77CHK0?si=mo1WRUFcZyL4XH7h&t=329
- 4d4m 3y agoMusic theory power couple!
- ohthehugemanate 3y agoSome of his early work as a producer was also for the NBC Opera Theater and Firestone Hour TV shows, which broadcast great performances of classical music and (you guessed it) opera.
- ljp_206 3y agoAll (or at least nearly 2000) of Mr. Rogers episodes are available on Archive.org. It's really great to be able to share these with our child, and us parents often appreciate the break and quietness more than our kid does!
- thinkingtoilet 3y agoWhen my son was young and had to go get his first hair cut I thought of trying to find a Mr. Rogers episode to see if he talks about it. I found a very old episode, so old it was in black and white, and I was surprised to find he sat through the whole thing. Hair cuts can be a big deal for young children, but after watching that episode we've never had an issue with hair cuts. It still works!
- plussed_reader 3y agoThere is power in the old magicks...
- gregsadetsky 3y agoThat's incredible, thanks for the reference! Episode 1 looks so great. So so timeless..! https://archive.org/details/tt0062588_202201/0001.mp4 https://archive.org/details/tt0062588_202201/0001.mp4
- anadem 3y agoThanks so much for the direct link. I'm hoping my grandkids will enjoy Mr Rogers as much as my kids did; he was a wonderful fixture in their lives.
- mikermcneil 3y agoSuch an interesting man. Quoted his mom in the company values recently: https://fleetdm.com/handbook/company#empathy https://fleetdm.com/handbook/company#empathy """ When I was a boy and I would see scary things in the news, my mother would say to me, "Look for the helpers. You will always find people who are helping." To this day, especially in times of "disaster", I remember my mother's words and I am always comforted by realizing that there are still so many helpers—so many caring people in this world. —Fred Rogers """
- tricky 3y agoI've always wondered how intentional Fred Rogers was when writing these songs. I've been in a shitty ska punk band for years and the hyperactive singer will be like, "Guys! I've got this great new song and it goes like this." He'll sing a melody for a verse or whatever and we'll piece together a chord progression then he'll sing the chorus and we'll piece chords together that sort of fit it but it will be in some bananas different key. The band is all looking at each other like WTF is this nonsense? but the crazy thing is the song winds up working and it is crazy complex even though none of us have any idea what we're doing.
- 0xdeadbeefbabe 3y agoHow about covering "Everybody's Fancy"? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=My84I3ZjHv0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=My84I3ZjHv0 But come up with other chords?
- adzm 3y agoI mean, music theory is all about communication and describing how things sound, not fitting everything in a box. Though once you learn the theory behind why your stuff works despite the clashing keys, you'll be able to describe it to other musicians and more easily apply it intentionally.
- thefourthchime 3y agoThe same guy also breaks down the Thomas The Tank Engine theme song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og1Pbn8OufI&t=486s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og1Pbn8OufI&t=486s
- christophilus 3y agoI always loved the music on the show. It’s probably why I still turn on Bill Evans and similar to this day when I want to relax.
- 72846hsidhdh 3y agoRafa e Luiz
- NoZebra120vClip 3y agoMr. Rogers was a fully-qualified Presbyterian minister. He was a televangelist who didn't directly mention Jesus Christ as his savior. One of the precepts of hymns and sung texts is that the music imparts the mood and emotion, rather than the speaker imposing his own interpretation on the text. Even if someone chants recto tono, the mode/key will elicit a less personal and more universal feeling to the words. Mr. Rogers was still part of that transition from vaudeville and live musical theater. My childhood experience of his musicality was that it was sometimes so well-integrated that we hardly noticed he was singing, or accompanied, and sometimes it took center stage, such as when the trolley bell sounded and the piano imitated its travel along the tracks. All that insight from this video, such as the improvisation and originality of each recording, the mature nature of the arrangements rather than a "childish" plinking of the keys, that's all a confirmation of my feelings about Mr. Rogers being an excellent father figure and an icon of what mass media can do right.
- kazinator 3y agoI'm now reminiscing about some conversation I had in a music store circa 1988 or 1989, in which the other guy referred to "that brutal jazz" in Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood.
- scelerat 3y agoBetween Mister Rogers' Neighborhood and Sesame Street, there was a ton of really good music -- good on its own terms -- for kids growing up in that era.
- seanc 3y agoSame guy did a video about the Sesame Street Pinball Number Count song (one-two-thee-four-five...six-seven-eight-nine-ten...eleven-twelve) The song is teaching children to count, but the rhythm is very advanced (7/4 time!) so trying to count the beats like a musician is just bananas. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMtGImlEmu0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMtGImlEmu0
- bitbckt 3y agoAs a musician (and incidentally a fan of this YT channel) the only non bananas way to count that is “like a musician”.
- smcnally 3y agoThere must be something in the water this week for kids who grew up in that era -- posted earlier about Mister Rogers' Neighborhood and Sesame Street documentaries "Street Gang: How We Got to Sesame Street" & "Won't You Be My Neighbor?" & a few of my own take-aways on both https://meanbusiness.com/2024/01/22/sesame-street-the-neighborhood/ https://meanbusiness.com/2024/01/22/sesame-street-the-neighb...
- thelastparadise 3y agoThis is all mindblowing --based on what Jonathan Davis was saying, Mr. Rogers wasn't what this is depicting.
- jcims 3y agoSquad Goals
- Aloha 3y agoBetween the music on Mr. Rogers and the Vince Guaraldi music on the Peanuts special, a generation of Jazz lovers were launched.
- dclowd9901 3y agoWere that it were so. In the last 20 years, just about every jazz club everywhere has shut its doors. There’s only one good one that I know of now, that plays live jazz every single night (like a jazz club ought): the 1905 in Portland, OR. If you care about the arts, get the fuck out of your house and go support the arts. Jazz clubs are hanging by a hair. Maybe a city doesn’t need more than one or two, but most cities have none.
- jayrot 3y agoAdam Neely’s video essay on the music of The Backyardigans is pretty great as well.
- riemannzeta 3y agoCustom GPT trained on some of Fred Rogers work https://chat.openai.com/g/g-oW7MpoDDn-mister-rogers-gpt https://chat.openai.com/g/g-oW7MpoDDn-mister-rogers-gpt
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