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Challenge of who is a bigger dick: a guy who is openly racist, makes fun of other people language skills and makes it a principle to act like a dick vs the guy

Challenge of who is a bigger dick: a guy who is openly racist, makes fun of other people language skills and makes it a principle to act like a dick vs the guy who got hysterically overprotective - a challenge we truly deserve. I don't personally believe in the "bigger dick" narrative when the whole point of trolling is provoke someone to loose their cool. The piano guy spend good few minutes poking those asian people, making fun of them and even tried grabbing one of them. The biggest dick is the one who is looking for conflict, not the one whom they found during their trolling quest.

g-b-r 3y ago
Well it's really hard to establish bigger dickness, although the Chinese was very polite the rest of the time, making up an assault case is pretty dicky (and probably criminal). I don't know about the racism though, it's possible but he might simply not like the Chinese government and political system (and assume that waving a Chinese flag means supporting it, which was probably the case).
- foverzar 3y ago
  > making up an assault case is pretty dicky (and probably criminal). The pianist actually did try to grab that woman, look at the video. I can't even say if the asian guy overreacted because I can't imagine myself being in the same conversation and not busting the pianist's nose or balls - and that's what would have probably happened if the pianist gave the same attitude towards a random white British girl off camera. > I don't know about the racism though, it's possible but he might simply not like the Chinese government and political system He was calling them "Japanese" while cracking jokes about "Chinese government" and mocking their language skills, while the woman he tried to grab was explaining to him that she is actually British. That's clearly racist. One's political preferences is never an excuse of such a behavior towards individuals - a lot of people tend to forget that. > and assume that waving a Chinese flag means supporting it, which was probably the case Tourist groups often use flags in order to keep track of the group members. Thousands of people use the Union Jack or the US flag as a mere garage decoration. There are myriad of possible reasons a person could be holding some nations flag other than to show support for a certain political force within that nation.
  - g-b-r 3y ago
    > The pianist actually did try to grab that woman, look at the video Although his hand can't be seen, it definitely seems he just came closer to the flag or hand It's for sure extremely unlikely he was assaulting, which is what the scream of the Chinese implied. --- > He was calling them "Japanese" while cracking jokes about "Chinese government" and mocking their language skills, while the woman he tried to grab was explaining to him that she is actually British. That's clearly racist That's compatible to just not liking the Chinese dictatorship, and it's typical for the Chinese government to accuse of racism anyone who criticizes them. There might be racism here though. --- > There are myriad of possible reasons a person could be holding some nations flag other than to show support for a certain political force within that nation. I'm not Chinese but I don't think I'd be happy to hold that flag if I didn't support the CCP system. After all the biggest star represents the CCP. But it might well be so that in some occasions (e.g. sport events) you genuinely use it with good intents. Actual racism towards Asians is in any case very rare, in my experience Anyhow, Chinese citizens are mostly victims, and you should indeed not treat them in that way for what their government does.
  - peterfirefly 3y ago
    You are exactly making China look good with your "help". > He was calling them "Japanese" Due to a misunderstanding. He had just talked with another guy who was expecting a Japanese crew to show up so they could do some filming. He thought the Chinese people were the Japanese crew.
- lobocinza 3y ago
  He isn't racist. There are older videos of him positively interacting with what looks to be Chinese. If he didn't like the Chinese government and political system before he definitely doesn't like now (as nobody should). Claims of racism are nonsense.

g-b-r 3y ago

Well it's really hard to establish bigger dickness, although the Chinese was very polite the rest of the time, making up an assault case is pretty dicky (and probably criminal). I don't know about the racism though, it's possible but he might simply not like the Chinese government and political system (and assume that waving a Chinese flag means supporting it, which was probably the case).

foverzar 3y ago
> making up an assault case is pretty dicky (and probably criminal). The pianist actually did try to grab that woman, look at the video. I can't even say if the asian guy overreacted because I can't imagine myself being in the same conversation and not busting the pianist's nose or balls - and that's what would have probably happened if the pianist gave the same attitude towards a random white British girl off camera. > I don't know about the racism though, it's possible but he might simply not like the Chinese government and political system He was calling them "Japanese" while cracking jokes about "Chinese government" and mocking their language skills, while the woman he tried to grab was explaining to him that she is actually British. That's clearly racist. One's political preferences is never an excuse of such a behavior towards individuals - a lot of people tend to forget that. > and assume that waving a Chinese flag means supporting it, which was probably the case Tourist groups often use flags in order to keep track of the group members. Thousands of people use the Union Jack or the US flag as a mere garage decoration. There are myriad of possible reasons a person could be holding some nations flag other than to show support for a certain political force within that nation.
- g-b-r 3y ago
  > The pianist actually did try to grab that woman, look at the video Although his hand can't be seen, it definitely seems he just came closer to the flag or hand It's for sure extremely unlikely he was assaulting, which is what the scream of the Chinese implied. --- > He was calling them "Japanese" while cracking jokes about "Chinese government" and mocking their language skills, while the woman he tried to grab was explaining to him that she is actually British. That's clearly racist That's compatible to just not liking the Chinese dictatorship, and it's typical for the Chinese government to accuse of racism anyone who criticizes them. There might be racism here though. --- > There are myriad of possible reasons a person could be holding some nations flag other than to show support for a certain political force within that nation. I'm not Chinese but I don't think I'd be happy to hold that flag if I didn't support the CCP system. After all the biggest star represents the CCP. But it might well be so that in some occasions (e.g. sport events) you genuinely use it with good intents. Actual racism towards Asians is in any case very rare, in my experience Anyhow, Chinese citizens are mostly victims, and you should indeed not treat them in that way for what their government does.
- peterfirefly 3y ago
  You are exactly making China look good with your "help". > He was calling them "Japanese" Due to a misunderstanding. He had just talked with another guy who was expecting a Japanese crew to show up so they could do some filming. He thought the Chinese people were the Japanese crew.
lobocinza 3y ago
He isn't racist. There are older videos of him positively interacting with what looks to be Chinese. If he didn't like the Chinese government and political system before he definitely doesn't like now (as nobody should). Claims of racism are nonsense.