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Tell HN: Russia has started blocking OpenVPN/WireGuard connections
For the past three days Russians have been unable to use their VPN services working via OpenVPN/WireGuard protocols, and some even have reported that in certain situations SSH connections have stopped working.
The prospect of an isolated Russian interweb has become oh so real.
As a person currently residing in Russia I can confirm that I've been unable to connect to my favourite VPN provider for the past three days, not even its official application works.
I've not seen any discussions on the English-peaking Internet, not it's been in the news for some reasons despite its importance in preserving freedom of information and opinions.
In the Russian internet it's being hotly debated here: https://habr-com.translate.goog/ru/companies/xeovo/articles/787106/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp&_x_tr_hist=true https://habr-com.translate.goog/ru/companies/xeovo/articles/...
More on the topic: https://torrentfreak.com/tag/russia/ https://torrentfreak.com/tag/russia/
- jmnicolas 3y agoWouldn't something like v2ray helps? How did you post on HN btw?
- jruohonen 3y agoAny hints on how they're doing it and at which layer? DPI at the 7:th layer?
- itvision 3y agoIt's been rumored to be DPI and what's even worse it's being done by circumventing sanctions: https://theins.ru/en/politics/265749 https://theins.ru/en/politics/265749
- dev_0 3y ago[dead]
- sylware 3y agoMaybe that's why while playing dota2 in EU, as a support, I have been getting in the last few days very bad cores? Or am I into a lose streak which valve matchmaking became master at crafting for us once in a while?
- tears-in-rain 3y ago[flagged]
- CoastalCoder 3y agoNobody expects the Russian deep packet inquisition!
- tears-in-rain 3y agoi mean, all things working fine, dpi exists, traffic filtered. and government do their job, as it should. this screams about blocking, become from those who tried to get money from reselling and mixing traffic to do bad stuff.
- jacquesm 3y agoWith some luck they end up blocking their own troll farms.
- mmastrac 3y agoUnfortunately I imagine those operate from regions without controls. I remember the story of the fire at the troll factory from a few years ago when internet discourse magically improved for a few days.
- hellcow 3y agoMullvad has a Wireguard obfuscation feature you can enable. Does that work for you?
- tears-in-rain 3y agono need, but thanks. daily routine become a more painful, because of two-way blocking. i even cant read new science paperwork from US universities, they're block whole ASN's. we're slowly moving to great firewall, i suppose.
- startupsfail 3y ago[flagged]
- tears-in-rain 3y agoi believe this sarcasm relief something. thank you for attention. but mine interest is lay in dp and genetics. no matter what happened around.
- EasyMark 3y agoI think that would fail since that is just wg through a wg tunnel
- keddad 3y agoI don't believe it is true. They might block commercial solutions, but i'm using Wiregiard with exit point in Netherlands right now, works fine (although on certain providers, I've seen some throttling, but that could just be coincidental) UPD: I asked some friends, some of them have faced probmes. I guess it is not protocol block, but instead combination of protocol and "suspicious" server. Mine has stuff other then VPN running on it, so it might have flown under the radar.
- abyrvalgg 3y agoThe same for me. I use Wireguard to connect to VM in Netherlands and to VM in a local cloud. Didn't notice any problems.
- dr_pardee 3y agoTen years ago, I was working for a US post-production company that produced a one-off game show in China. We used OpenVPN to monitor our servers, but it was being blocked. I ended up setting up a new OpenVPN server using obfsproxy, and it worked. It might be worth trying in your situation: https://community.openvpn.net/openvpn/wiki/TrafficObfuscation https://community.openvpn.net/openvpn/wiki/TrafficObfuscatio...
- Covzire 3y agoIt should be an OS-level implemented feature at the TCP/IP layer so all non-local traffic is unrecognizable to anyone but the true recipient. IDS/IPS's are virtually worthless these days anyway so I can't see much downside if every Window's, Mac's and Linux OS's network traffic appeared to be completely random/obfuscated out-of-box.
- b112 3y agoBut sir, how will they protect the children, if the OS does that?
- vsgherzi 3y agoGood one
- yjftsjthsd-h 3y agoI've heard it claimed that IPv6 was supposed to bake in IPsec as part of the core protocol which I think would have given you what you want, but 1. obviously that's not how history actually turned out, and 2. honestly I'm kind of glad that it didn't because I would rather not be stuck with IPsec forever.
- pinochet2021 3y agoTry SquareX's disposable browser - works for me in China and is basically Remote Browser Isolation but for consumers. It seems free right now - https://www.sqrx.com https://www.sqrx.com
- tipsysquid 3y agorequiring an email in order to download a privacy tool isnt a great start for anonymity. why should I trust this tool?
- justinclift 3y agoMaybe don't trust it? It seems to accept sharklasers.com (aka anonymous) email addresses though, so you don't have to use your real email address. :) It also seems to work via Tor Browser, although it's a bit slow.
- pinochet2021 3y agoTechnically you are buying VPN services by giving your credit card :D use a dummy email -- if you feel so unsafe. At least Squarex is free right now so no credit card needed
- SpaghettiCthulu 3y agoYou can pay for VPNs with crytocurrency instead
- cassianoleal 3y agoFor Mullvad you can buy gift cards as well. Even if you pay for those with a credit card, there's no link between the payment and the contents of the gift card.
- EasyMark 3y agoI send cash and it has worked just fine. I guess depends on honest mail people between you and them though.
- loregate 3y agoMaybe now I can play CS:GO/CS2 in peace.
- sesm 3y agoBut Steam network services are not blocked in Russia, as far as I know. Steam itself does block certain games for Russia, but CS is not one of them.
- throwbas 3y agoI have the fortune to reside in Russia-controlled Donbas. Over here they have been blocking all WireGuard connections for a long time. OpenVPN seems to be blocked selectively depending on the host. The government and commerce must need it more than WireGuard. It isn't consistent. Different ISPs block different hosts and protocols at different times. I assume we are a kind of test and staging environment for censorship in Russia. In the interest of anonymity I am not going to respond to your questions.
- jvanderbot 3y agoHow, technically, can they block wire guard? It can operate as pure UDP on any port. Are we referring to wireguard vendors like tailscale here?
- hotpotamus 3y agoThis is what I was wondering. I don’t understand these VPNs too deeply (though I do occasionally administer an OpenVPN setup), but I was under the impression that they’re sending encrypted packets over UDP on arbitrary ports. That seems quite tough to analyze and block.
- 15457345234 3y ago> That seems quite tough to analyze and block. Why analyze when you can whitelist?
- jvanderbot 3y agoOk fair. The approach might be block everything except https/tcp. In which case what we need is https side channel VPNs.
- eptcyka 3y agoWireguard headers are fingerprintable.
- blibble 3y ago
- someotherperson 3y agoUnfortunately, thanks to the Great Firewall of China, there has been a lot of resources put in to fingerprint VPNs and block them by state actors. Fortunately, however, there is equally years of some of the smartest minds on the planet working to bypass Chinese censorship, so there are some great OpenVPN alternatives. I really encourage you to look into something like Shadowsocks which Chinese people have found great success in using over the last several years. In your case, however, it's worth mentioning that if you can't connect at all then it's likely they've blocked the commercial IPs of the VPN nodes. It's quite sad that projects like Streisand[0] were archived, but I'm sure there are other alternatives that might make it just as easy to roll onto a server. [0] https://github.com/StreisandEffect/streisand https://github.com/StreisandEffect/streisand
- yellow_lead 3y agoCan anyone confirm Shadowsocks works anymore? When I tried to use it a few years ago, it got blocked in a few days. To be honest, I think they are blocking anything that exchanges a lot of data with oversesas IPs, after hitting a certain threshold.
- apfsx 3y agoShadowsocks and ShadowsocksR don’t work anymore in my experience in China or Iran. V2ray does which is the successor to those.
- b112 3y agoI wonder how many of these services are just state actors, who can then track people more directly.
- yellow_lead 3y agoThese are open source proxies, not centralized services, so I think it's unlikely. At least shadowsocks was well researched in the past, I'm not sure about v2ray.
- the_mitsuhiko 3y agoRussians at this point are somewhat accepting the latest shenanigans of Roskomnadzor and in some cases are even somewhat supportive of it ("necessary evil"). So part of why there is not a lot of discussion on the English internet is that not even on the Russian internet there is not a ton of discussion about it. VPNs stop and continue working on a somewhat regular schedule for a long time at this point.
- cyberge99 3y agoI wonder how this will affect political discourse in the USA. Legitimate question. I’m not concerned with “sides”, more interested to know if there will be less “division/fiery rhetoric”. There seems to have been a systemic psyops campaign from foreign actors into US political “hot” topics.
- mcv 3y agoIt's also possible that Russian troll factories still have their own VPN to outside the Russian firewall.
- The_Colonel 3y agoIt's not just possible, it's very, very likely.
- EasyMark 3y agoI would take 100 to 1 odds on that as well. No way the troll farms are blocked. Just scroll through twitter feed on a fresh account. Lots of obvious Iranian and Russian troll farm bots. I think if I was a billionaire I'd probably set up American "patriotism" troll farms, but they would be milquetoast and happy medium "western civilization is great bots" instead of all the hyper partisan stuff. If nothing else as an experiment.
- paganel 3y ago[flagged]
- myko 3y agoIt is a fact that Kremlin sponsored psyops campaigns worked to hinder her candidacy. The Mueller report laid this out in detail. To answer your question, I think they were wondering if this would make it more difficult for Russian groups to do perform these psyops jobs. My thought is no: these groups will likely not have to deal much with these firewalls, considering they're explicitly backed by the Kremlin in their effort.
- notarget137 3y agoAnd here I am writing this post via Wireguard VPN through my home router marking traffic to an outside VPN gate with ease.
- vbezhenar 3y agoWorking around DPI blocks is possible as long as you can get your hands on foreign VPS. Just invent your own protocol and use it for yourself. Wrap it with HTTPS or even HTTP, nobody's has resources to analyse every single website protocol. However some huge ingress/egress traffic to unknown website with few random pages looks very suspiciously. So it's possible to select those websites using statistics analysis. Now the question to hackers: how do I hide tunnelled traffic so its statistics does not look suspicious? Ideally one would use some CDN webserver (like cloudflare or amazon), however without encrypted SNI, host is extractable with DPI.
- dijit 3y agoFWIW I stumbled upon the fact that AnyConnect (VPN from Cisco) about 10 years ago could walk over our HTTPS/DPI proxies/firewalls at Ubisoft. Which was mostly interesting because it was Ubi itself using AnyConnect. In my efforts to use Linux (which is not supported by Cisco) I found "OpenConnect" and it's partner: "OCServe"; which are open source compatible client & server software (respectively) for the protocol On the wire traffic looks like normal HTTPS traffic, and without the SSL "CONNECT" header which DPI loves to drop as it's known used for proxies and vpn solutions. YMMV, but it's worked for me with aggressive HTTP proxies in other companies too. :)
- deleted 3y ago[deleted]
- wiml 3y agoThat's what "domain fronting" was: you put an innocuous domain in the SNI but a different domain in the Host: header and in some circumstances with some CDNs this would work.
- anticensor 3y ago> Working around DPI blocks is possible as long as you can get your hands on foreign VPS. Just invent your own protocol and use it for yourself. Wrap it with HTTPS or even HTTP, nobody's has resources to analyse every single website protocol. Some firewalls will simply drop those protocols.
- 3kjj23iiinn 3y ago[flagged]
- arcbyte 3y agoGreat example of how Russian propaganda works. To western readers it reads like sarcasm because we acknowledge the truth contained in it. There are tons of addiction problems we are sorting through with these services. But western readers also see clearly the draconian overtones of tyranny in this sort of approach. Hence it reads like sarcasm. To russian and other readers living in dictatorships, this sort of thing has been repeated so often that I think the draconian aspects are totally missed.
- libertine 3y agoThe Russian governance seemed to have studied very well Nazi Propaganda and we have a very good display of it. If anyone ever wondered: "How would the Nazi party operate in the 2020's?" Well, look at Russia. To be clear, I won't address production quality, that's another subject. What I meant is the underlying idea and execution.
- LudwigNagasena 3y agoThe idea that Western readers can clearly see the draconian overtones of tyranny seems laughable after the last several years. And let's not even mention the fact that Marxism, fascism and Nazism have all originated in Europe...
- libertine 3y ago> The idea that Western readers can clearly see the draconian overtones of tyranny seems laughable after the last several years. This is a very confusing statement... Why is it laughable to have an education system that teaches us history and critical thinking to see tyranny, even in our societies? Or now you're also on the boat that Stalin was a nice guy after all? > And let's not even mention the fact that Marxism, fascism and Nazism have all originated in Europe... The question that you should be asking is: what originated in Russia? Right? Misery, genocide, poverty... Ones learn from history to avoid it, while modern Russia seems to draw inspiration from Nazi Germany. Very confusing comment.
- ir77 3y ago[flagged]
- jncfhnb 3y agoMost Russians have been boiled frogs for the last several centuries by that end
- nikanj 3y agoOption 1: Take to the streets, topple the oppressive government Option 2: Take to the internet, kvetch about the oppressive goverment with no real action
- SV_BubbleTime 3y agoOne is warm and cozy.
- dist-epoch 3y agoUnfortunately YouTube is still accessible in russia. They know that blocking it will upset a lot of people.
- dmix 3y agoSomeone has to post blatant cope under each video talking about the war. They'll do it for free.
- rcatcher 3y ago> do i care that your vpn connection is broken by your oppressive goverment Do you realize that the government restricting access to alternative media sources even more will result in fewer and fewer people in russia opposing the status quo?
- ako 3y agoEveryone opposing the government either ends up falling from a hotel, or ends up in siberia, so you can’t blame the Russian people from being careful. At the same time, plenty people in the US are prepared to be boiled by trump…
- okasaki 3y ago[flagged]
- dist-epoch 3y ago[flagged]
- wiseowise 3y ago[flagged]
- kgeist 3y agoI haven't been able to use my OpenVPN server since August 2023. All connections are reset. Surprised someone could still use it. Perhaps it was rolled out on a per-ISP basis.
- bananapub 3y ago> The prospect of an isolated Russian interweb has become oh so real. none of the comments below have picked up on this specific thing but Russia has done exercises on exactly this topic. they seem much more prepared to do it / want to appear to be willing to do it than any other large country that isn't already a police state.
- petre 3y ago[flagged]
- Departed7405 3y agoDoesn't Russia still have TOR nodes running ? Are those blocked ?
- gumballindie 3y agoI would advise against using popular or well known protocols as those are prime targets. I’d use disguised protocols instead.
- cat_plus_plus 3y ago[flagged]
- xtian 3y agoRussia produces more container ships by tonnage than the US with a fraction of the population, to pick just one example of many. Before SpaceX, the US was dependent on them for rides to the ISS. They produce some of the most formidable and battle-tested military-technical systems in the world. How exactly is that a failed state? Seems like you want other people to make the same decision you did since maybe you’re unsure that it was the correct choice.
- pavel_lishin 3y agoTwo out of the three of those are heavily military-based, and thanks to the cold war, the US and Russia have been heavily investing in the military for over half a century. So maybe that's not a fair comparison to make. Besides manufacturing capability, I think determining whether something is a "failed state" or not, you need to look at other things, focusing more on social details. Is the government truly democratic? Is the law applied more-or-less fairly and equally? Is the press free, and are people able to discuss things without fear? Aside from manufacturing exports, how is the internal economy - are people able to afford the basics, and things that might be considered luxuries? How's education, how's the ability to travel both internally and externally, how's economic and social mobility? I don't think container-ship-tonnage is a great metric of whether something is a failed state or not.
- WhatsTheBigIdea 3y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Failed_state https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Failed_state https://www.britannica.com/topic/failed-state https://www.britannica.com/topic/failed-state https://www.dictionary.com/browse/failed-state https://www.dictionary.com/browse/failed-state Russia does not appear to qualify as a failed state by the definition published in any of these three sources.
- cat_plus_plus 3y ago
- monday_ 3y agoTyping this from Moscow, over OpenVPN. I have been around the country over the last year and am yet to experience protocol-level blocks (although there are credible reports this happened, just not in my experience). It seems like the current wave is about blocking popular providers. Folks with own server, like myself, are not a target so far. I'd expect the government to cool down expansive internet censorship until the "elections" in March, since hitting the preapproved outcome figures will be harder this way.
- asdffdasasdf 3y agotheir heuristics is probably looking for long time connections.. you're scaping by moving the client around
- rasz 3y agoBashkiria is heating up with thousands on the streets for two days in a row, plus moscow rolling blackouts just kicked in.
- MrDisposable 3y agoAlready supressed, which is expected given that it's just 2 months before the election.
- timka 3y agoThe Ural federal district is the testing site for the ASBI (АСБИ). What blackouts are you talking about? I'm in Moscow. Never heard of that.
- personalityson 3y ago[flagged]
- mmastrac 3y agoInformation control is just one part of how totalitarian regimes maintain that control. Western media is full of stories of the Russian "meat grinder" that would probably incense Russians, so it's probably in Putin's best interests to control how many Russians can actually see that.
- MrDisposable 3y agoRussian here, living in Russia. My paid VPN provider stopped working months ago. Then my self-hosted Outline server stopped working. Then my self-hosted OpenVPN stopped working too. Both were hosten on Digital Ocean (Frankfurt). What currently works for me is self-hosted Outline running on an US server, but I suspect that won't last long. Looks like I have no choice but to learn how to self-host XRay. A smart friend told me that it still works and is hard to block, but unfortunately he has no personal experience with it -- and no need for it anymore, since he emigrated to another country. Does anyone here have any experience with XRay / XTLS-Reality?
- mmastrac 3y agoAs a curiosity, how do you pay for an EU VPS given the sanctions?
- dudefeliciano 3y agoDO does accept cryptocurrencies, that could be an option
- MrDisposable 3y agoVia a business bank account in one of the Baltic countries, or via a personal bank account in Georgia. For people who don't have bank accounts in other countries, or are of conscription age (means you can't get an international passport which is necessary to cross the border) I'd recommend teaming up with friends who emigrated. Some of them still need rubles in Russia (to pay for mortgages, or help their parents), so you provide them with rubles and they pay for your VPS.
- pilosus 3y agoI’ve written an Ansible playbook [1] to automate XRay installation on a Linux machine. Some people say XRay works well, but I don’t have personal experience. [1]: https://github.com/pilosus/Xray-ansible https://github.com/pilosus/Xray-ansible
- jmnicolas 3y agoWhy do you host your VPN in "hostile" countries? Wouldn't it be better to host in Asia (Viet-Nam comes to mind) or Central / South America (Nicaragua etc)? Latency might suck but it would be better than no access.
- cedws 3y agoIt's worth mentioning that the Russian government has a plan to completely detach the country from the wider Internet. This system has already been tested and is available at the flick of a switch. Unfortunately, it's probably a matter of time until this system is activated for real and the Iron Curtain drops to the floor. Then Putin will find some way to blame the West and rally against us.
- The_Colonel 3y agoI don't believe that this is coming. It would have large economic costs (how to conduct international business with "friendly" countries? etc. etc.), would piss off a significant share of the population (e.g. online gamers) etc. It's just not worth it. For countries like Russia, the goal isn't necessarily to cut off all connections, the goal is to discourage it, make it expensive, annoying, slow, so that a large majority of the population will opt to use the Russian internet.
- cedws 3y agoI don't know. People said the same thing about the invasion to begin with. That it would cause significant economic harm to Russia, cause civil unrest, and so on. Yet they did it and pulled through somehow. I don't they'll hesitate to do it if they see the need to. Putin wants the Soviet times back at any cost. He has many strings he can pull if he feels threatened.
- maximus-decimus 3y agoBread and circuses. It's weird to say, but I do believe that banning circuses (the internet) would cause more problems than a conscription.
- Const-me 3y ago> circuses (the internet) According to a Russian resident I follow on social media, over the last 2 years Russians improved their localized circuses: VK, mail.ru, etc. The guy says these are now somewhat close to the originals i.e. Facebook, Instagram, YouTube.
- cf1241290841 3y agoMight be a case of me being too stupid to use ctrl + f But its very much worth mentioning that Russia has totalitarian laws that criminalize the use of vpns.
- sega_sai 3y agoBecause of the issues with OpenVPN/Wireguard blocking, a few months ago I completely switched to shadowsocks which I think mostly works. But it looks like https://github.com/amnezia-vpn/amneziawg-go https://github.com/amnezia-vpn/amneziawg-go -- is the way to go, which is an obfuscated wireguard.
- pvaldes 3y agoMost probably related with the revolts started in the Russian republic of Bashkortostan the last week.
- genman 3y agoThe play of elections is also coming.
- MrDisposable 3y agoSome good news amidst this doom and gloom: I just installed AmneziaVPN (https://amnezia.org https://amnezia.org) on my VPS and it works great so far -- and pretty fast as well.
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- cassepipe 3y agoMaybe it's the right place to advertise Snowflake. It's a browser extension that allows people to bypass Tor censorship if I understood correctly : https://snowflake.torproject.org/ https://snowflake.torproject.org/
- tg180 3y agoSnowflake users from Russia are still on the rise https://metrics.torproject.org/userstats-bridge-combined.html?start=2021-01-01&end=2024-01-20&country=ru https://metrics.torproject.org/userstats-bridge-combined.htm...
- erebe__ 3y agoYou can use wstunnel to bypass firewall. I had many feedbacks from chinese/turkish/iranian people using it with success. Easy to setup also with static binaries. https://github.com/erebe/wstunnel/ https://github.com/erebe/wstunnel/
- pshirshov 3y agoThis thing works perfectly well: https://xtls.github.io/ https://xtls.github.io/ I provide some server nodes to certain people there.
- NoOn3 3y agoI want to point out that many sites still work without any VPN, including this site. And not all foreign sites are blocked, but only those included in special lists.
- theyinwhy 3y agoI highly recommend hans to bypass such shenanigans: https://github.com/friedrich/hans https://github.com/friedrich/hans
- canjobear 3y agoFor what it's worth I tried NordVPN in China recently and all the servers were blocked. Totally useless. But weirdly, when I connected to the internet over cell data on my phone, there was no blocking at all...
- patrakov 3y agoWas that a Chinese SIM or a foreign SIM in roaming? Hong Kong SIM cards are an effective way to circumvent the Chinese firewall, and, if you don't mind the prohibitive cost, they work against the Russian firewall, too.
- canjobear 3y agoAmerican SIM. I just turned on my phone and the whole internet was accessible (unless I connected to someone’s Wifi). I was surprised that it was so easy.
- jnwatson 3y agoI had a friend recently visit China and he needed access to the real internet and the VPN providers he had used before were blocked. It took me all of 10 minutes to set up a OpenVPN server in East Asia on DigitalOcean. The container even comes with a client installer that has the parameters preloaded. Worked fine.
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- shebnik 3y agoWhat is interesting is that since 2022 a lot of sites and host services decided to ban access from Russia. Quite often to a very simple things - nothing related to technology. And I don't remember anybody outside Russia found it crazy. (I am too lazy for VPN and accessed through web.archive.org to the most of the stuff). So, when Russia closes some access it is an attack on the freedom. And when West blocks access from Russia it is protection of the freedom :) For example, I found about some 'world oldest tree' competition through the news that it banned trees from Russia. Curious enough, I found their site and.... it rejected me by IP.
- khzw8yyy 3y ago"That's different" (tm) We are supposed to go overthrow Putin to get LinkedIn and Spotify back (or something).
- tryauuum 3y agoLinkedIn is kind of a bad example, it was blocked by roskomnadzor
- lobocinza 3y ago> What is interesting is that since 2022 a lot of sites and host services decided to ban access from Russia. Same from Brazil though probably way less. I blame Cloudflare, overzealous sysadmins and paranoid Wordpress security plugins.
- shebnik 3y agojust checked - OpenVPN works just fine if all traffic is local (we use it to access company network).
- khzw8yyy 3y agoIKEv2 hasn't worked since last fall (and mine was self-hosted). They keep upgrading the DPI.
- _k2vp 3y agoHey there! Lots of experience with this having lived in China for 2 years. I recommend you look into xray-core or v2ray. https://github.com/v2fly/v2ray-core https://github.com/v2fly/v2ray-core https://github.com/XTLS/Xray-core https://github.com/XTLS/Xray-core Here are my configs: https://github.com/acheong08/notes/tree/main/xray https://github.com/acheong08/notes/tree/main/xray Why this over WireGuard or OpenVPN or commercial solutions? Because it’s obfuscated and you’re much less likely to get caught. Try hosting a small game server on the same machine as well so the traffic doesn’t look too out of place.
- azkwxm 3y agoHello, this project can help you solve some problems, but the problems you have are far more complicated than we imagined, so there may not be a good solution for you. https://github.com/Useful-open-source-project/Share-vpn-build-tool-panel/blob/X-UI/README.md https://github.com/Useful-open-source-project/Share-vpn-buil... OpenVPN/WireGuard, a protocol similar to VPN, has been identified. What we use now is a proxy protocol. It is not probabilistically recognized by VPN protocol operators or firewalls. After all, they can also enter AI to help them improve their firewalls, so we We also have to find ways to resist or improve our agency agreement so that he is no longer afraid of the firewall.
- timka 3y agoWriting this from Moscow over private OpenVPN instance hosted on Hetzner by a friend of mine. Sometimes it stops working. It's been like that for a couple of years like that.
- timka 3y agoThis is HN not PN. I do realize HN is full of libertarian spoiled youth (and spoiled not-so-youth-already including myself) but I don't want to teach anyone how to live. The time will show. I do understand libertarians. I personally was really unhappy to see more and more "regular people" getting internet access since the late 90s. Now the Internet is full of crap. I have trouble finding stuff that was easy to find in, say, 2010. I do miss "the underground days" of FidoNet. And underground is total denial of the mainstream. But the Internet is not just the mainstream, it's the infrastructure now. I grew up in Moscow in the 80s-90s and my passion for computers somewhat saved me from the street influence but OTOH I did have the Anarchist's cookbook, for instance, precisely b/c of the computers. Absolutely unregulated. That is I'm sort of the early kind of spoiled kids. Most Russians had enough of 90s with child prostitution, heroine, skinheads etc. They just want unspoiled kids to continue rebuild the country they lost in 90s but better. They don't need BLM/LGBT/whatever extreme stuff in the mainstream. There's place for that and it's called underground. Also, I think English-speaking Internet may be viewing modern Russian at least as oppressive as the USSR but this isn't true IMO. They have learnt the lesson and do realize that prohibiting and classifying almost everything is not the way. As well as basing regulations, policies and even international affairs on ideological principles. That's is the system is very much interested in the existence of underground. It's similar to how enforcing customs regulations totally has turned out to be too expensive and bad for economy. Some expert in the area said that ~10% of smuggling is a healthy balance. Another example. I once talked to a guy from Sochi who told me that during the preparation of the 2014 Olympics some local hippies were approached by special "people in civilian clothes". The hippies have been told something like: we know you grow shrooms and weed, and that's OK, no worries, but we need you to stay away off during the Olympics. Yet another example. While visiting the village where my grand-grandfather was born I heard that they got their own potheads and shroom eaters, in the next village or something. Everyone knows about that, police included. Dumb enforcement never works well for such things. Just remember how desperately the Russian Empire was trying to make the Ashkenazi cultivating the land. The government gave them the rich black earth in Novorossia. That worked perfectly for many of the Germans and the Greeks but not so much for the Ashkenazi. The government didn't want to understand that this just wasn't something Ashkenazi would like to do. Also, I think most of those young kids thinking they're protecting freedom of speech are just acting like offended children how ran away from home. For how long can they survive? Even if they can, is it good for them? The Soviet Union was a very parentalistic system that everybody was fed up with. People thought that with the destruction of the Union they'll only get freedom. In reality the not only got freedom but lost many things they were taking for granted like free health care and education, science and significant part of the industry.
- amai 3y agoThere is always shortwave radio: https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/4/22961286/bbc-news-blocked-in-russia-ukraine-invasion-shortwave-radio https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/4/22961286/bbc-news-blocked-...
- akuku 3y agoThey should be happy now. So many of them accepts the regime and current president...
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- ParrCon 3y agoAs far as I know https://github.com/apernet/hysteria https://github.com/apernet/hysteria is the latest proxy protocol (used in China). Maybe try this
- fobo66 3y agoDuring the protests in Belarus in 2020, internet was blocked with DPI, and OpenVPN and WireGuard also didn't work. Same situation with Outline. The only too that worked was Psiphon: https://psiphon.ca/ https://psiphon.ca/ Looks like police in Russia uses DPI as well, so Psiphon might work too.
- devilsAdv0cate 3y ago[dead]