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It violates copyright, yes. If you're interested in contributing opening hours data, but learning OSM's quirks sounds too hard, try https://streetcomplete.app

It violates copyright, yes. If you're interested in contributing opening hours data, but learning OSM's quirks sounds too hard, try https://streetcomplete.app https://streetcomplete.app (for Android and soon maybe iOS).

wharvle 3y ago
Facts like that would be more likely to be a T&C issue than a copyright one. Unless you scraped the data as screenshots that you presented directly to the user, or something nutty like that. Of course, if Google decided to fight it as a copyright issue you’d still probably be screwed, even if you were in the right.
osmsucks 3y ago
Be careful when using StreetComplete. It's by far the most user-friendly OSM editor out there, but it bundles edits together in one big changeset. I didn't know that, so I used it on occasion to fill in information about places I was visiting, and right after to fill in information about places far away that I know intimately (where I live). This created a very geographically large changeset which got reviewers to shout at me multiple times about it (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Changeset#Geographical_size_of_changesets https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Changeset#Geographical_s...).
- matkoniecz 3y ago
  > t bundles edits together in one big changeset have you enabled manual uploading (that needs to be done in settings and warns about need for triggering regular uploads)? or have you edited just before and after air travel, and enabled plane mode before changes had chance to upload?
  - osmsucks 3y ago
    This was a while back so I can't recall precisely. Yes, I think I was travelling at the time, but I don't think the changes happened just before stepping on the plane, and I did have connectivity.
- YoshiRulz 3y ago
  Name checks out? But thanks for the warning. I think my current usage patterns incidentally stop me from hitting that behaviour. I happen to know the sibling commenter contributes to the app, so hopefully it can be fixed.
- habi 3y ago
  > […] which got reviewers to shout at me multiple times about it As an avid OpenStreetMapper I’m sorry you’ve been shouted at for something that is „not recommended“, but not really a big issue. This should not happen in our community! At most someone should have told you to try to avoid large bounding boxes as it is much easier to review geographically small changesets. Sometimes large ones happen, especially if StreetComplete is set up this way, as matkoniecz mentions in another comment.

wharvle 3y ago

Facts like that would be more likely to be a T&C issue than a copyright one. Unless you scraped the data as screenshots that you presented directly to the user, or something nutty like that. Of course, if Google decided to fight it as a copyright issue you’d still probably be screwed, even if you were in the right.

osmsucks 3y ago

Be careful when using StreetComplete. It's by far the most user-friendly OSM editor out there, but it bundles edits together in one big changeset. I didn't know that, so I used it on occasion to fill in information about places I was visiting, and right after to fill in information about places far away that I know intimately (where I live). This created a very geographically large changeset which got reviewers to shout at me multiple times about it (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Changeset#Geographical_size_of_changesets https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Changeset#Geographical_s...).

matkoniecz 3y ago
> t bundles edits together in one big changeset have you enabled manual uploading (that needs to be done in settings and warns about need for triggering regular uploads)? or have you edited just before and after air travel, and enabled plane mode before changes had chance to upload?
- osmsucks 3y ago
  This was a while back so I can't recall precisely. Yes, I think I was travelling at the time, but I don't think the changes happened just before stepping on the plane, and I did have connectivity.
YoshiRulz 3y ago
Name checks out? But thanks for the warning. I think my current usage patterns incidentally stop me from hitting that behaviour. I happen to know the sibling commenter contributes to the app, so hopefully it can be fixed.
habi 3y ago
> […] which got reviewers to shout at me multiple times about it As an avid OpenStreetMapper I’m sorry you’ve been shouted at for something that is „not recommended“, but not really a big issue. This should not happen in our community! At most someone should have told you to try to avoid large bounding boxes as it is much easier to review geographically small changesets. Sometimes large ones happen, especially if StreetComplete is set up this way, as matkoniecz mentions in another comment.