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Makes me miss old school tools like Dev-C++ and MSVC 6.0 Courier was so readable.

by taspeotis 3y ago

ziotom78 3y ago
Not sure about Courier :-) but I too have fond memories of MSVC 6.0!
- usrusr 3y ago
  That entire era in Microsoft products, MSVC 6.0, Office 97 and bit later w2k was quite special: linear progress from earlier windows things, but not yet in that cycle of change for the sake of change, that is never really complete so you always get a wild mix (arguably w2k already contained first glimpses of that with its service control panels that felt a little alien to the rest) (ps: change for the sake of change is not quite all that I meant, it's not just that "new UI language every five years", but also those great API revolutions that came independent of looks. Those are certainly far more well-founded than just "for the sake of change", but suffer from coexistence with their predecessors nonetheless. win32 as an evolution of win16 and optionally wrapped in MFC, that might have been error-prone and complicated to write for, but it does have a certain clarity that no successor can claim as long as compatibility remains the product)
anta40 3y ago
You may want give OpenWatcom a try. Some folks are still working on it. https://github.com/open-watcom/open-watcom-v2 https://github.com/open-watcom/open-watcom-v2 In terms of ISO-complianceness, perhaps don't expect much. It basically C89 (the C99 support is still incomplete), and for C++... most likely not even C++98 - compliant.
vintagedave 3y ago
Dev-C++ is still around, and the open source project is now sponsored by Embarcadero. https://www.embarcadero.com/free-tools/dev-cpp https://www.embarcadero.com/free-tools/dev-cpp
- nottorp 3y ago
  That's scary actually. Do they include some modules that would make you liable for a few k per month in retroactive subscriptions?
  - anta40 3y ago
    I don't think so. It's basically a more polished version of good old DevC++. Still using a rather old GCC, eh...?
xtracto 3y ago
I remember going to Code::Blocks ( https://www.codeblocks.org/ https://www.codeblocks.org/ ) once Dev-Cpp started to become obsolete. I wrote a bunch of small games using CodeBlocks.

Makes me miss old school tools like Dev-C++ and MSVC 6.0 Courier was so readable.

ziotom78 3y ago

Not sure about Courier :-) but I too have fond memories of MSVC 6.0!

usrusr 3y ago
That entire era in Microsoft products, MSVC 6.0, Office 97 and bit later w2k was quite special: linear progress from earlier windows things, but not yet in that cycle of change for the sake of change, that is never really complete so you always get a wild mix (arguably w2k already contained first glimpses of that with its service control panels that felt a little alien to the rest) (ps: change for the sake of change is not quite all that I meant, it's not just that "new UI language every five years", but also those great API revolutions that came independent of looks. Those are certainly far more well-founded than just "for the sake of change", but suffer from coexistence with their predecessors nonetheless. win32 as an evolution of win16 and optionally wrapped in MFC, that might have been error-prone and complicated to write for, but it does have a certain clarity that no successor can claim as long as compatibility remains the product)

anta40 3y ago

You may want give OpenWatcom a try. Some folks are still working on it. https://github.com/open-watcom/open-watcom-v2 https://github.com/open-watcom/open-watcom-v2 In terms of ISO-complianceness, perhaps don't expect much. It basically C89 (the C99 support is still incomplete), and for C++... most likely not even C++98 - compliant.

vintagedave 3y ago

Dev-C++ is still around, and the open source project is now sponsored by Embarcadero. https://www.embarcadero.com/free-tools/dev-cpp https://www.embarcadero.com/free-tools/dev-cpp

nottorp 3y ago
That's scary actually. Do they include some modules that would make you liable for a few k per month in retroactive subscriptions?
- anta40 3y ago
  I don't think so. It's basically a more polished version of good old DevC++. Still using a rather old GCC, eh...?

xtracto 3y ago

I remember going to Code::Blocks ( https://www.codeblocks.org/ https://www.codeblocks.org/ ) once Dev-Cpp started to become obsolete. I wrote a bunch of small games using CodeBlocks.