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And if you look at open source it does exactly that. Most AI models are open source/weights. People are giving away some of their best work because they want to

And if you look at open source it does exactly that. Most AI models are open source/weights. People are giving away some of their best work because they want to cooperate with others to build things. Scientific publications also share knowledge openly. Only private journals are locking up papers, but they are losing ground. At least AI papers are free to read and implement. They share even code, datasets and trained models. I think the ethos of progress is with open culture not closed copyrights.

ricardo81 3y ago
It may be a good ethos but you can't simply undermine people's life work for your ethos especially when there's laws protecting their life work. Put yourself in their shoes. Maybe you use some AI derivative work for your own life's work and then when you've finally accomplished what you want to do, someone else duplicates it, or uses the majority of your work? What do you expect out of it. If you don't expect to be paid, great - I guess you'll be spending X other hours supporting yourself and possible family. And if you do, you don't expect the hard work of others to be compensated? Rhetorical question.
- visarga 3y ago
  Use AI to build things for yourself. You get the benefit in those things, it doesn't matter if anyone else copies, as long as you're not selling content.
  - ricardo81 3y ago
    Sounds fine to me, just if the AI abides.
- IcyWindows 3y ago
  Technology had made people's jobs obsolete for ages.
  - ricardo81 3y ago
    But there is differences between technological evolution and wholesale taking of other people's intellectual property. You can go to Watt's steam engine or some such. I doubt he'd argue that his engine had intellectual property on the manual labour people did since time immemorial. But yet it did make their jobs obsolete. Maybe some of them died while his patents were still in play. All the same, his invention, his idea, plays by the rules.

ricardo81 3y ago

It may be a good ethos but you can't simply undermine people's life work for your ethos especially when there's laws protecting their life work. Put yourself in their shoes. Maybe you use some AI derivative work for your own life's work and then when you've finally accomplished what you want to do, someone else duplicates it, or uses the majority of your work? What do you expect out of it. If you don't expect to be paid, great - I guess you'll be spending X other hours supporting yourself and possible family. And if you do, you don't expect the hard work of others to be compensated? Rhetorical question.

visarga 3y ago
Use AI to build things for yourself. You get the benefit in those things, it doesn't matter if anyone else copies, as long as you're not selling content.
- ricardo81 3y ago
  Sounds fine to me, just if the AI abides.
IcyWindows 3y ago
Technology had made people's jobs obsolete for ages.
- ricardo81 3y ago
  But there is differences between technological evolution and wholesale taking of other people's intellectual property. You can go to Watt's steam engine or some such. I doubt he'd argue that his engine had intellectual property on the manual labour people did since time immemorial. But yet it did make their jobs obsolete. Maybe some of them died while his patents were still in play. All the same, his invention, his idea, plays by the rules.