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John Lasseter drew the BSD daemon logo
- jaypatelani 3y agoI also initiated some NetBSD mascot concept ideas but i guess people are not that interested in it https://mail-index.netbsd.org/netbsd-advocacy/2021/01/21/msg000828.html https://mail-index.netbsd.org/netbsd-advocacy/2021/01/21/msg...
- quadibloc 3y agoWhen I saw an article that linked here, I was thinkiong about Phil Foglio, because I was familiar with the version of the logo that he drew.
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- andrewstuart2 3y ago"The Director of 'Toy Story'" is a pretty understated way to refer to John Lasseter [0], who effectively headed up all the Pixar projects (on the creative side) from the beginning of the company, and directed 5 of their films. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Lasseter https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Lasseter
- dang 3y agoOk, we've put John Lasseter up there now.
- Razengan 3y agoI knew him through his introduction to the English version of Studio Ghibli’s Spirited Away :)
- Findecanor 3y agoHe had won his first Oscar for the animated short Tin Toy in 1989, and had been nominated for Luxo Jr. a couple years prior. I first read about him and Pixar in an article about that those in a electronics magazine back then. What I read about had a profound impact on me, making me want to learn how to program computer graphics.
- polynomial 3y ago"Lassetter wasn’t the first to draw this, but his version became the most popular." (FTA)
- jasonjayr 3y agoPhil Foglio (Girl Genius, Buck GoDot, etc) had drawn the first version prior to Lasseter's
- threetonesun 3y agoAnd some great card art from the "let's not take this too seriously" era of Magic the Gathering.
- jzb 3y agoWow, really? That's amazing. I wonder if Foglio was ever actually a BSD user. I have a soft spot in my heart for Foglio's early work, like "What's New with Phil & Dixie" from Dragon magazine and his adaptation of Myth Adventures. I'm particularly fond of The Winslow[1]. Sadly, nobody I know has ever read more than a few Phil & Dixie cartoons and I just get weird looks if I talk about The Winslow. [1] https://comicvine.gamespot.com/winslow/4005-31428/ https://comicvine.gamespot.com/winslow/4005-31428/
- kps 3y agoFoglio's drawing was for UNIX, a couple years before the first BSD releases. Unfortunately the original was lost, and the best you can find online now are just photos of t-shirts like https://www.mckusick.com/beastie/jpg/foglio.jpg https://www.mckusick.com/beastie/jpg/foglio.jpg
- inopinatus 3y agoGreg Lehey records some relevant history of the daemon logo prior to Lasseter's cover (along with a classic daemon t-shirt story) at http://www.lemis.com/grog/whyadaemon.html http://www.lemis.com/grog/whyadaemon.html.
- not2b 3y agoAnd Debian releases are named for Toy Story characters.
- gofreddygo 3y agoJeez, I never could draw the connection between those Debian names and Toy Story characters. Till now. Thank you. TIL!
- dylan604 3y agoThe only release I knew by name was Woody, but for others curious, here's a page with the releases names listed: https://www.debian.org/releases/ https://www.debian.org/releases/ I love the homages/easter eggs in the *nix world
- djmips 3y agoWheezy stuck in my mind. Good to finally know how it came to be! Funny that Wheezy is a penguin!
- dylan604 3y agoYeah, Wheezy does sound familiar as well. I ran a Woody server in a co-lo for a personal side hustle, so I was familiar with it. After that, work took me into the RHEL realm with lots of CentOS with much less interesting names like 5, 6, 7.
- rootbear 3y agoBruce Perens, a major figure in Debian Linux, worked at Pixar for years. He was my officemate for a while when I was there in the late 90s.
- i386 3y agoI had the opportunity to visit Pixars office at Emeryville 20 years ago. Loved the garden shed offices!
- jetrink 3y agoSome additional context: the editor of the manual was Sam Leffler, who was a coworker of Lasseter at Lucasfilm at the time. > The later, more popular versions of the BSD Daemon were drawn by animation director John Lasseter beginning with an early greyscale drawing on the cover of the Unix System Manager's Manual published in 1984 by USENIX for 4.2BSD.[7] Its author/editor Sam Leffler (who had been a technical staff member at CSRG) and Lasseter were both employees of Lucasfilm at the time. About four years after this Lasseter drew his widely known take on the BSD Daemon for the cover of McKusick's co-authored 1988 book, The Design and Implementation of the 4.3BSD Operating System.[8] Lasseter drew a somewhat lesser-known running BSD Daemon for the 4.4BSD version of the book in 1994. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSD_Daemon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSD_Daemon
- vanderZwan 3y ago> The BSD Daemon was first drawn in 1976 by comic artist Phil Foglio. Developer Mike O'Brien, who was working as a bonded locksmith at the time, opened a wall safe in Foglio's Chicago apartment after a roommate had "split town" without leaving the combination. In return Foglio agreed to draw T-shirt artwork for O'Brien, who gave him some Polaroid snaps of a PDP-11 system running UNIX along with some notions about visual puns having to do with pipes, demons/daemons, forks, a "bit bucket" named /dev/null, etc.[3] Foglio's drawing showed four happy little red daemon characters carrying tridents and climbing about on (or falling off of) water pipes in front of a caricature of a PDP-11 and was used for the first national UNIX meeting in the US (which was held in Urbana, Illinois). Wow, Phil Foglio as well? The origin story gets even more interesting. Here is a page that features the original artwork: http://www.mckusick.com/beastie/shirts/usenix.html http://www.mckusick.com/beastie/shirts/usenix.html
- divbzero 3y agoIs there a connection between Sam Leffler the BSD contributor at Lucasfilm/Pixar and BSD as the basis for NeXTSTEP/OS X at NeXT/Apple? As far as I can tell, there is no direct connection. Sam Leffler contributed most to the 4.1BSD and 4.2BSD while at Berkeley [1], while NeXTSTEP was based on Mach which was based on 4.2BSD and developed by Richard Rashid and Avie Tevanian at Carnegie Mellon [2]. Perhaps the indirect connection is that, before Linux, BSD was the natural choice for an open-source UNIX derivative, and Steve Jobs had an instinct for seeking out the leading edges of computing at the time. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_J._Leffler https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_J._Leffler [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mach_(kernel)#Development https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mach_(kernel)#Development
- hyuuu 3y agowow that is actually pretty cool, i wonder what other instances of thought leaders criss crossed to a different industry like that
- xxr 3y agoA favorite instance of mine is Rolly Crump, who did a lot of design work for Disney theme parks but also created the iconic branding for Ernie Ball guitar strings.
- schlauerfox 3y agoRolly! My dad worked with him at AVG where Rolly would consult in his post disney career, he art directed the LazerMaze that was a mall attraction IR gun robot shooting gallery you would walk through installed a bunch of places, Edmonton Mall, Sherman Oaks Galleria, Six Flags Magic Mountain, san diego boardwalk and a bunch of places. . https://bestedmontonmall.com/2021/01/25/lazer-maze/ https://bestedmontonmall.com/2021/01/25/lazer-maze/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MU3g6wvk5jQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MU3g6wvk5jQ I think we may have the only parts of the thing left. It used an s100 bus computer with a custom designed audio adpcm board. Rolly designed the robots and the never built robot queen, before he passed I asked if he had any art left but sadly no.
- bradneuberg 3y agoI nice coincidence is that Stewart Brand, who later went on to found the Whole Earth Review and other counterculture icons, was the camera man running the camera at Douglas Engelbart's famous Mother of All Demo demo in 1968 in San Francisco.
- bch 3y agoAlton Brown (celebrity chef, TV host, etc), was the cinematographer for the video for R.E.M.s “The One I Love”. Gary Fisher (Fisher Mountain Bikes) had worked light shows for the Grateful Dead and went on to make an officially sanctioned Grateful Dead bicycle[0][1] with proper artwork. [0] https://www.dead.net/fanphotos/gd-bike-poster https://www.dead.net/fanphotos/gd-bike-poster [1] https://forums.bikeride.com/thread-8750.html https://forums.bikeride.com/thread-8750.html
- gen3 3y agoSlightly different but OpenBSD does a good job of finding artists, for example the artwork for 6.5 and 6.6 was drawn by Natasha Allegri of Adventure Time and Bee and PuppyCat https://www.openbsd.org/66.html https://www.openbsd.org/66.html
- brynet 3y agoThey also designed probably the best t-shirt art for an OS release, no longer available, sadly. https://www.openbsd.org/tshirts.html#47 https://www.openbsd.org/tshirts.html#47 https://twitter.com/natazilla/status/1187896621045956608 https://twitter.com/natazilla/status/1187896621045956608
- jimmyjazz14 3y agoOh man I was just thinking that would make an awesome t-shirt, wish it was still available.
- dylan604 3y agoIf you're willing to play in the darker shades or gray, there are plenty of websites that will print up posters/t-shirts/etc of any image you upload to them. Even as one offs. JIT of swag is a real thing now
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- jimmyjazz14 3y agoMan that's some pretty badass BSD artwork too.
- brynet 3y ago"Puffy vs Cthulhu" is also pretty badass. https://www.openbsd.org/images/puffy_vs_cthulhu.jpg https://www.openbsd.org/images/puffy_vs_cthulhu.jpg https://twitter.com/natazilla/status/1138473365969264643 https://twitter.com/natazilla/status/1138473365969264643
- orenlindsey 3y agoHere's the book with the John Lassetter cover if anyone wants it: https://www.amazon.com/Design-Implementation-UNIX-Operating-System/dp/0201061961 https://www.amazon.com/Design-Implementation-UNIX-Operating-... There's a "Used - Good" quality one for $4.
- colordrops 3y agoNo really related, but I wish there was a NixBSD. Would switch immediately.
- tmountain 3y agoThere’s progress. https://discourse.nixos.org/t/openbsd-nix-is-now-a-thing/25525/9 https://discourse.nixos.org/t/openbsd-nix-is-now-a-thing/255...
- throwboatyface 3y agoJohn Lasseter is a creep who was ousted from Pixar after a long history of sexually harassing employees: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/john-lasseters-pattern-alleged-misconduct-detailed-by-disney-pixar-insiders-1059594/ https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/john-las...
- packetslave 3y agoI don't see how that's relevant.
- iwontberude 3y agoIt is interesting how the creations we cherish as a society become separate from the creator. Not even a creator's misconduct can reappropriate the art from society.
- antonchekhov 3y ago“To reveal art and conceal the artist is art’s aim." ― Oscar Wilde, The Picture of Dorian Gray
- postmodest 3y ago"Oh, this from the posing somdomite" - Wilde's contemporaries.
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- bredren 3y ago"The truth is rarely pure and never simple." - The Importance of Being Earnest
- packetslave 3y agoI assume you refuse to use gcc, emacs, etc. because of their creator, refuse to use JavaScript anywhere on the web, never take an Uber etc.? Or is it just the cases where it's convenient to virtue signal? I also find it ironic that you posted a Steve Jobs quote in a comment recently...
- hnthrowaway0328 3y agoI love these materialized manuals. Do we still have them for the modern enterprise *nix operating systems such as Redhat and such?
- abetusk 3y agoNot really related but the artist behind the Go(lang) mascot is Renee French [0] who also did Grit Bath [1]. She happens to be married to Rob Pike, so I assume that had something to do with it. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ren%C3%A9e_French https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ren%C3%A9e_French [1] https://www.abebooks.com/comics/GRIT-BATH-Nos-1-3-French-Renee/1819156951/bd https://www.abebooks.com/comics/GRIT-BATH-Nos-1-3-French-Ren...
- kderbyma 3y agoAnyone else think about the connection between OSX, Jobs, Pixar, etc....seems like the elite of the tech revolution all were neighbours as usual with industry control
- anthk 3y agoSo much control that you could get industry quality level OSes for free or by the cost of the CD's: -FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD, GNU/Linux with slackware CD's... This is like getting avionics industry manuals and hardware for free and with a press of a button you could get a self-assembled UFO with an antigravity field by half the price of a car.
- i386 3y agoThere was a center of excellence and a lot of innovation by a relatively small industry at the time.
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- jelder 3y agoOP here. If any historians would like to see details from any other parts of this set, just ask.
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- tw04 3y agoStill bugs me FreeBSD replaced Beastie, the reasoning always seemed silly to me. I'm hoping they'll go back to him on the next refresh (which is long overdue IMO).
- qbrass 3y agoI get why they changed it, but they could have come up with something better than a horned yoga ball to replace it with.
- hghid 3y agoThere are plenty of things that I like to think I could probably turn my hand to and make a passable job of if I had to, but Illustration is not one of them. I would love to have to ability to visualise something and make it appear on paper like that, but no matter how hard I try I never will. The character and expression put into something that was probably a 30 minute sketch is quite amazing!
- kristopolous 3y agoA few weeks ago I saw a food truck using the old Lasseter FreeBSD beastie logo in southern California. Here's their Instagram with the logo prominently displayed in multiple places. https://www.instagram.com/aguasfrescaslupita https://www.instagram.com/aguasfrescaslupita The truck I saw has him maybe 4 feet tall on the left hand side: https://9ol.es/tmp/PXL_20240110_021538249.jpg https://9ol.es/tmp/PXL_20240110_021538249.jpg We should invite them to like, a linux conference or something. They'd be very popular.
- justinator 3y agoWell, good thing it's BSD licensed! Open Source for the yummy win!
- doubloon 3y agoyet another misogynist corrupt weirdo at the heart of open source, computing, and film. and he gets praised for drawing "a version" of something that someone else created. ohhh the irony.