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Incels are low on extraversion, high on neuroticism, not open to experience, low on agreeableness, low on conscientiousness. If you had those traits during a w

Incels are low on extraversion, high on neuroticism, not open to experience, low on agreeableness, low on conscientiousness. If you had those traits during a winter in 10,000 BC, from the moment you started complaining about the cold, and being pessimistic about the upcoming mammoth hunt, and such... the tribe would not be as tolerant as our modern society.

Mutttttioi 3y ago
Or they are just Man who never had friends or family telling them when they did something weird, and instead of starting to selfreflect, they got frustrated and angry and are now stuck in a circle. Without being high on neuroticism etc. And than they became stuck
- danmur 3y ago
  Or they have borderline personality disorder and don't realise they're manipulating and hurting people :/ EDIT: So just to clarify since I think there's a disconnect between what I was saying and what people are hearing, I was talking about myself here. And I am a dude. People are complicated and our brains can go into a tailspin for lots of reasons. Like k8s only less complex and with less YAML.
  - newsclues 3y ago
    Do you assume the same of women who don’t have sex?
    - danmur 3y ago
      I assume that some women who don't have sex suffer from BPD, yes. I can't recall ever thinking that about someone on an individual basis.
      - newsclues 3y ago
        Do you think there are also BPD women who do have sex and manipulate others and cause harm? Do you think there is a difference between men and women in these situations?
        danmur 3y ago
        Do you want to ask something in particular or is this just a long and annoying questionnaire? :)
  - geraldhh 3y ago
    yea, have met a lot of women meeting that definition
  - Mutttttioi 3y ago
    It would be interesting to learn more about what type of people become incels I do belive that most are 'just' normal humans who haven't gotten the proper feedback system in their lives which also implies that the incel crisis is not necessarily a mental health issue but a social issue. It doesnt' make it easier of course if people with borderline personality disorder and others are also affected and potentially also take over those type of groups in a form or push them in particular directions.
    - geraldhh 3y ago
      > I do belive that most are 'just' normal humans who haven't gotten the proper feedback system in their lives which also implies that the incel crisis is not necessarily a mental health issue but a social issue. probably both plus a bit of overrepresentation due to (social) media economics
numbers_guy 3y ago
Agree with the first paragraph. The second paragraph does not follow at all. Traits that are no successful today might be very well received 12,000 years ago. For example people with ADHD would probably be better hunter-gatherers than they are programmers. Neuroticism might be useful if you live in constant life-threatening situations.

Mutttttioi 3y ago

Or they are just Man who never had friends or family telling them when they did something weird, and instead of starting to selfreflect, they got frustrated and angry and are now stuck in a circle. Without being high on neuroticism etc. And than they became stuck

danmur 3y ago
Or they have borderline personality disorder and don't realise they're manipulating and hurting people :/ EDIT: So just to clarify since I think there's a disconnect between what I was saying and what people are hearing, I was talking about myself here. And I am a dude. People are complicated and our brains can go into a tailspin for lots of reasons. Like k8s only less complex and with less YAML.
- newsclues 3y ago
  Do you assume the same of women who don’t have sex?
  - danmur 3y ago
    I assume that some women who don't have sex suffer from BPD, yes. I can't recall ever thinking that about someone on an individual basis.
    - newsclues 3y ago
      Do you think there are also BPD women who do have sex and manipulate others and cause harm? Do you think there is a difference between men and women in these situations?
      - danmur 3y ago
        Do you want to ask something in particular or is this just a long and annoying questionnaire? :)
- geraldhh 3y ago
  yea, have met a lot of women meeting that definition
- Mutttttioi 3y ago
  It would be interesting to learn more about what type of people become incels I do belive that most are 'just' normal humans who haven't gotten the proper feedback system in their lives which also implies that the incel crisis is not necessarily a mental health issue but a social issue. It doesnt' make it easier of course if people with borderline personality disorder and others are also affected and potentially also take over those type of groups in a form or push them in particular directions.
  - geraldhh 3y ago
    > I do belive that most are 'just' normal humans who haven't gotten the proper feedback system in their lives which also implies that the incel crisis is not necessarily a mental health issue but a social issue. probably both plus a bit of overrepresentation due to (social) media economics

numbers_guy 3y ago

Agree with the first paragraph. The second paragraph does not follow at all. Traits that are no successful today might be very well received 12,000 years ago. For example people with ADHD would probably be better hunter-gatherers than they are programmers. Neuroticism might be useful if you live in constant life-threatening situations.