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This is not new. The 27% fee has been around for over a year now I think, may have been announced in 2021 even, for markets outside the US that already mandate

This is not new. The 27% fee has been around for over a year now I think, may have been announced in 2021 even, for markets outside the US that already mandate this. I've seen these screens already in apps.

Vt71fcAqt7 3y ago
It seems like according to Sweeny the 27% rate itself is not new but it only went into effect today.[0] [0] https://twitter.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/1747280541362102287 https://twitter.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/174728054136210228...
- danpalmer 3y ago
  I think this is still just a US announcement. This was announced for dating apps in the Netherlands in Feb 2022, I think Korea also has had similar changes. https://www.computerworld.com/article/3649111/apple-begins-the-great-app-store-cost-negotiation.html https://www.computerworld.com/article/3649111/apple-begins-t...
- MBCook 3y ago
  In the US. As GP mentioned it has been in effect for a while in Holland and maybe Korea or a few other places for at least certain kinds of apps due to local laws. Interesting note: this only applies to the US. I know the EU is forcing changes as well, but those are EU only. So South America, Asia, Australia, Africa, Canada, Mexico, and others haven’t changed one bit and likely still require 30%.
lxgr 3y ago
It's been mandated for dating apps in the Netherlands, to my knowledge. It being allowed for all apps in the US is arguably still news.
- throwaway2037 3y ago
  > mandated for dating apps in the Netherlands In this scenario, is there something specific that we should know/understand about (a) dating apps or (b) the Netherlands?
  - danpalmer 3y ago
    IIRC it was based on a court case from a group of dating app providers there. Dating apps have somewhat tricky unit economics, so I wouldn't be surprised if they made a case for their businesses specifically, and perhaps the court's finding was therefore not that widely applicable.

Vt71fcAqt7 3y ago

It seems like according to Sweeny the 27% rate itself is not new but it only went into effect today.[0] [0] https://twitter.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/1747280541362102287 https://twitter.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/174728054136210228...

danpalmer 3y ago
I think this is still just a US announcement. This was announced for dating apps in the Netherlands in Feb 2022, I think Korea also has had similar changes. https://www.computerworld.com/article/3649111/apple-begins-the-great-app-store-cost-negotiation.html https://www.computerworld.com/article/3649111/apple-begins-t...
MBCook 3y ago
In the US. As GP mentioned it has been in effect for a while in Holland and maybe Korea or a few other places for at least certain kinds of apps due to local laws. Interesting note: this only applies to the US. I know the EU is forcing changes as well, but those are EU only. So South America, Asia, Australia, Africa, Canada, Mexico, and others haven’t changed one bit and likely still require 30%.

lxgr 3y ago

It's been mandated for dating apps in the Netherlands, to my knowledge. It being allowed for all apps in the US is arguably still news.

throwaway2037 3y ago
> mandated for dating apps in the Netherlands In this scenario, is there something specific that we should know/understand about (a) dating apps or (b) the Netherlands?
- danpalmer 3y ago
  IIRC it was based on a court case from a group of dating app providers there. Dating apps have somewhat tricky unit economics, so I wouldn't be surprised if they made a case for their businesses specifically, and perhaps the court's finding was therefore not that widely applicable.