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That industrialization of beer was a major step backwards; flavourless but cheap lager almost eliminated good traditional beer.
by lmm 3y ago
That industrialization of beer was a major step backwards; flavourless but cheap lager almost eliminated good traditional beer.
- Paul_S 3y agoModern beer, even the industrial lager you despise is much better that what 99% of people drank in the past. There is almost no bad beer, the standards for water quality and hygiene are high, the process and technology is well understood and we can replicate the same beer batch after batch, year after year.
- fsckboy 3y ago[flagged]
- serf 3y ago>you are stating as fact something you can't possibly know, how much people enjoyed tasting things in the past. it's trivial to state that food standards and water quality have increased in quality. taste is subjective, but those two things can be well judged against historical anecdote.
- soperj 3y ago> water quality have increased in quality. Depends where you are. I'm sure the people of Flint might object.
- ch4s3 3y agoThey fixed the pipes there[1]. [1] https://www.abc12.com/news/flint-water-emergency/flint-reaches-deadline-for-water-service-line-replacement/article_28f5bd78-3063-11ee-9b70-e3fb4cf16413.html https://www.abc12.com/news/flint-water-emergency/flint-reach...
- mc32 3y agoYou know Flint isn’t the only place in the US with lead pipes and the US isn’t the only industrialized county with lead pipes… Moreover well water in some places is good in others not; even before industrialization.
- lmm 3y agoThen why is an organisation based on opposition to that industrial lager, and improvement of beer quality more generally, probably the most major/successful/historically important single-issue consumer organisation, to the point that most other ones have modelled themselves on it?
- Solvency 3y agoBecause, honestly, beer and wine and spirits tend to attract elite level snobs.
- tcbawo 3y agoI’m not sure about the loss of flavor, but we have definitely seen waves of homogenization with macro beer producers. From what I’ve seen, this led to an explosion in regional and local microbreweries. There are lots of eclectic options out there nowadays.
- dekhn 3y agoI have had no trouble finding wonderful beers produced by industry. I think filtering, pasteurization, and the use of grains like rice, are the main sources of the lack of flavor. That said, anecdotally, I did see a drop in quality of Pilsner Urquell when they moved from their traditional brewery (which had quite the ecosystem in the ceiling) to the newer one. Lots of folks like to say that the crazy stuff going on over the vats affects the flavor.
- lttlrck 3y agoWhen did it move? The best beer I ever had was draught Pilsner Urquell, sat outside the brewery in Plzeň circa 2000. Whatever they were doing inside... oh man, Perfection. I'll never forget.