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Don't do it. America has it's problems, but everywhere does and you'll find practically all places are worse to actually live.

fakenewsthrowww 3y ago
Everywhere does have issues, but this is a very typically american point of view I don't miss. It's best characterized by "the grass is always greener on the other side" to explain somehow it is just your envy and imagination. I don't regret leaving the USA and never have, it is a better fit for me in Europe, my stress level is way down, and I'm happier than I have been in years. Problems are not the same everywhere and they are not at the same intensity. Hell, I have lived enough places in the USA to know that not everywhere in the USA has the same degree of issues. Just try it, you're not obligated to stay somewhere forever and honestly the adventure for some people is in of itself worthwhile.
- danielmarkbruce 3y ago
  This is a very typically ignorant point of view. It's best characterized by "Everyone who thinks america is the best place to live is some fat white loud dude living in Texas, who's never left". I'm not american. I spent just over half my life outside the US. There are 10's of millions of us.
  - henry2023 3y ago
    1. Parent comment didn’t said that. 2. Most people who believe that the US is the best place to live in the world, have never lived anywhere else. 3. There is bast evidence that the US is not the best place to live if you care about living a happy life. (I.e. clinically reported depression rate)
    - danielmarkbruce 3y ago
      The implication is clear: "if you think the US is the best place to live, you are ignorant". Even your point 2 restates it. It's not based on any factual information. The united states has the most people on planet earth who have lived somewhere else but chose here, despite the enormous cost and effort involved to get here. It's fine for someone to have the opinion that it's not a great place. But the idea that anyone who thinks the us is the best place to live thinks that based on ignorance is stupid.
      - wjsiskwnqjks 3y ago
        >> Everyone who thinks america is >>the best place to live is some >>fat white loud dude living in >>Texas, who's never left". >> >>I'm not american. I spent just >>over half my life outside the >>US. There are 10's of millions >>of us. Chill out Listen, not everyone likes the same thing, this is ok! People should do like you did and try another place if they don't like where they grew up! This is not a crazy idea! There would be no immigration to the USA or anywhere if everyone listened to people saying "don't do it, everywhere has problems". I wasn't saying anyone that likes the US is stupid, and fwiw I'm actually a fat, stupid white Texan (I still vote in the elections there). Final nitpick, people REALLY do say all the time "the grass is always greener on the other side" when you try to move jobs or move states or cities, and it is something I just don't experience at all where I live today, and I really don't miss this particular very american perspective.
piloto_ciego 3y ago
What are you talking about? I’ve been a bunch of places, there are places that are better and places that are worth, but largely it’s about the culture I want to be a part of. I’m ready for a cultural break from America for a bit.
- danielmarkbruce 3y ago
  Living and being to are quite different. At least for me, many places are great to visit, but living full time for any reasonable amount of time is easiest/best in the US, and it's really not close.
  - piloto_ciego 3y ago
    Yawn, I doubt you actually have.
    - danielmarkbruce 3y ago
      Then, go do it. You only live once.
      - piloto_ciego 3y ago
        Actually, I upvoted this. So I lived in another country as an exchange student before so I thought you were just being an ass, but “you only live once” was not the response I expected. I apologize for coming off strong. Anyway, have a good night buddy.
  - rsynnott 3y ago
    I think it probably depends what you’re after; I visit the US occasionally, but certainly wouldn’t want to live there. However I know people in a broadly similar situation to me who’ve moved there and like it. If I was living in the US, given my job, I’d likely be living in SF, Seattle or NYC (the suburbs are not for me at the best of times, and _American_ suburbs in particular are just very unattractive). These are very expensive cities (Seattle somewhat less so), and cost of living would soak up a lot of the salary difference. And while they’re interesting to visit, I’m not sure how pleasant they’d be to actually live in long-term.
anonzzzies 3y ago
What did you try? And how much money do you have? I find, as a well off person (millions, not 10s of them), America is not that great. My money goes a lot further here for living. I don’t want to work 247 anymore; when I did the US was great.
- danielmarkbruce 3y ago
  Australia. It's expensive, career wise it's very limiting and the health care system is bad if you have children.
GaryNumanVevo 3y ago
As an ex-pat that moved to Amsterdam from the Bay Area, lol. I just bought my 6th rental property, and I'm working part time as a consultant making a TC that's midrange for an L6 engineer. My friends back in the bay are still saving up for that down payment
- piloto_ciego 3y ago
  How did you move to Amsterdam? DAFT?
  - GaryNumanVevo 3y ago
    HSM visa, so I can get the 30% ruling
krageon 3y ago
Unless you move into a civil war the gun issues can't be worse. So I guess it really depends on why you're moving away.
archagon 3y ago
Except if the Republicans win this time around, it looks like we’ll have a populist dictatorship for the foreseeable future.

fakenewsthrowww 3y ago

Everywhere does have issues, but this is a very typically american point of view I don't miss. It's best characterized by "the grass is always greener on the other side" to explain somehow it is just your envy and imagination. I don't regret leaving the USA and never have, it is a better fit for me in Europe, my stress level is way down, and I'm happier than I have been in years. Problems are not the same everywhere and they are not at the same intensity. Hell, I have lived enough places in the USA to know that not everywhere in the USA has the same degree of issues. Just try it, you're not obligated to stay somewhere forever and honestly the adventure for some people is in of itself worthwhile.

danielmarkbruce 3y ago
This is a very typically ignorant point of view. It's best characterized by "Everyone who thinks america is the best place to live is some fat white loud dude living in Texas, who's never left". I'm not american. I spent just over half my life outside the US. There are 10's of millions of us.
- henry2023 3y ago
  1. Parent comment didn’t said that. 2. Most people who believe that the US is the best place to live in the world, have never lived anywhere else. 3. There is bast evidence that the US is not the best place to live if you care about living a happy life. (I.e. clinically reported depression rate)
  - danielmarkbruce 3y ago
    The implication is clear: "if you think the US is the best place to live, you are ignorant". Even your point 2 restates it. It's not based on any factual information. The united states has the most people on planet earth who have lived somewhere else but chose here, despite the enormous cost and effort involved to get here. It's fine for someone to have the opinion that it's not a great place. But the idea that anyone who thinks the us is the best place to live thinks that based on ignorance is stupid.
    - wjsiskwnqjks 3y ago
      >> Everyone who thinks america is >>the best place to live is some >>fat white loud dude living in >>Texas, who's never left". >> >>I'm not american. I spent just >>over half my life outside the >>US. There are 10's of millions >>of us. Chill out Listen, not everyone likes the same thing, this is ok! People should do like you did and try another place if they don't like where they grew up! This is not a crazy idea! There would be no immigration to the USA or anywhere if everyone listened to people saying "don't do it, everywhere has problems". I wasn't saying anyone that likes the US is stupid, and fwiw I'm actually a fat, stupid white Texan (I still vote in the elections there). Final nitpick, people REALLY do say all the time "the grass is always greener on the other side" when you try to move jobs or move states or cities, and it is something I just don't experience at all where I live today, and I really don't miss this particular very american perspective.

piloto_ciego 3y ago

What are you talking about? I’ve been a bunch of places, there are places that are better and places that are worth, but largely it’s about the culture I want to be a part of. I’m ready for a cultural break from America for a bit.

danielmarkbruce 3y ago
Living and being to are quite different. At least for me, many places are great to visit, but living full time for any reasonable amount of time is easiest/best in the US, and it's really not close.
- piloto_ciego 3y ago
  Yawn, I doubt you actually have.
  - danielmarkbruce 3y ago
    Then, go do it. You only live once.
    - piloto_ciego 3y ago
      Actually, I upvoted this. So I lived in another country as an exchange student before so I thought you were just being an ass, but “you only live once” was not the response I expected. I apologize for coming off strong. Anyway, have a good night buddy.
- rsynnott 3y ago
  I think it probably depends what you’re after; I visit the US occasionally, but certainly wouldn’t want to live there. However I know people in a broadly similar situation to me who’ve moved there and like it. If I was living in the US, given my job, I’d likely be living in SF, Seattle or NYC (the suburbs are not for me at the best of times, and _American_ suburbs in particular are just very unattractive). These are very expensive cities (Seattle somewhat less so), and cost of living would soak up a lot of the salary difference. And while they’re interesting to visit, I’m not sure how pleasant they’d be to actually live in long-term.

anonzzzies 3y ago

What did you try? And how much money do you have? I find, as a well off person (millions, not 10s of them), America is not that great. My money goes a lot further here for living. I don’t want to work 247 anymore; when I did the US was great.

danielmarkbruce 3y ago
Australia. It's expensive, career wise it's very limiting and the health care system is bad if you have children.

GaryNumanVevo 3y ago

As an ex-pat that moved to Amsterdam from the Bay Area, lol. I just bought my 6th rental property, and I'm working part time as a consultant making a TC that's midrange for an L6 engineer. My friends back in the bay are still saving up for that down payment

piloto_ciego 3y ago
How did you move to Amsterdam? DAFT?
- GaryNumanVevo 3y ago
  HSM visa, so I can get the 30% ruling

krageon 3y ago

Unless you move into a civil war the gun issues can't be worse. So I guess it really depends on why you're moving away.

archagon 3y ago

Except if the Republicans win this time around, it looks like we’ll have a populist dictatorship for the foreseeable future.