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I worked for a dating company for a while. The moderation team was mostly young people predominantly women. Fortunately, compared to what the people in the art

I worked for a dating company for a while. The moderation team was mostly young people predominantly women. Fortunately, compared to what the people in the article deal with, it was relatively tame. But it still took its mental toll - having to look at dick pics all day is not healthy.

dudeinjapan 3y ago
Just imagine how my urologist feels. He needs to look at actual dicks all day.
- mslt 3y ago
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  - aikinai 3y ago
    I’m not GP, but I assume the point is that it’s part of the job. Coroners look at real dead people all day. EMTs see horrific injuries. Many jobs have unpleasant aspects, some horrible, but this isn’t novel or unique.
  - stinos 3y ago
    That's your opinion, here's mine: I found it sort of funny, plus it actually raises an interesting point (definitely not useless, plus bonus points for such humor btw): I always wonder how gynaecologists, urologists, ... mentally deal with this exact aspect. For instance: what is sex in the evening like if you've seen x different genitals during the day? How easy is it to separate that? Or is there no separation perhaps?
    - tjpnz 3y ago
      Different context. There's not a sexual dimension to it at all.
      - serf 3y ago
        >There's not a sexual dimension to it at all. that's the ideal professional. there are plenty of stories of sub-ideal professionals.[0] [1]: https://www.newsweek.com/doctor-rape-pregnant-woman-giovanni-quintella-bezerra-arrested-brazil-1725079 https://www.newsweek.com/doctor-rape-pregnant-woman-giovanni...
      - stinos 3y ago
        Honest question: do you have such job yourself? Or do you intimately know multiple people who do? Or does this come from research? Because if not, that would just sound like how you'd want it to be. Not necessarily what it is like in reality. But in any case: yes, I know it's a different context, but that's not the question. Rather: is it realy that easy to just separate context 100%, and at will?
    - meindnoch 3y ago
      I'd be surprised if more than 1% of people could get an erection in a urologist's office (unless their visit is due to priapism). You're likely visiting due to a painful or embarrassing problem with your equipment.
      - stinos 3y ago
        In this case I was actually wondering about the urologist, not the patients themselves. The latter is a situation I've been in myself so it's easier to relate to and reason about.
  - donatj 3y ago
    I think it made a valid commentary about how silly the parent comment was. You almost certainly just become completely desensitized to genitalia pretty quickly. There’s nothing innately terrible or scarring about human anatomy, the taboo is purely cultural. Some basic exposure and you get used to seeing them. Just becomes like seeing a foot or an arm. I think that’s the point being made though a little more glibly.
- jb1991 3y ago
  Just think about how many politicians feel. They have to speak to actual dicks every day, and some of them have to actually be a dick all day.
  - akudha 3y ago
    Wait, politicians have feelings???
- cultofmetatron 3y ago
  > Just imagine how my urologist feels. He needs to look at actual dicks all day. worse, he has to look at actual diseased dicks all day. not enough eye bleach in kiev
- Der_Einzige 3y ago
  That’s not even the half of it. They have to deal with people with kidney stones and some of the treatments for that are NSFL
mattigames 3y ago
That's just bad hiring, you need to hire the ones that like to look at dick picks, you know, the ones who get zero mental toll from it.
sph 3y ago
Nonsense. Looking at a part of human anatomy is scarring only if you're an incurable prude. Would looking at human hands all day "take its mental toll"? Probably because it would be as boring as watching paint dry, and doing that day in day out is not good for one's sanity.
- spinach 3y ago
  Hands are completely different than genitals. There is reason why being exposing oneself in public is a crime. No one who didn't consent should be a part of someone else's fetish. It's not simply about being a "prude" although there is nothing wrong with being that either. There are many women who are traumatized by getting sent dick photos, it's intrusive and disgusting and the people who send them know it.
  - stephen_g 3y ago
    I don't disagree that kind of thing being targeted at a person can be psychologically damaging, but not because there's anything specifically different about the genitals. It's all about the motive and meaning behind it. I think the Anglosphere's over-sexulisation of any and all nudity makes it worse than it needs to be (I think my exposure to e.g. Germany's sauna culture on a few trips has really helped me form a healither attitudes to nudity in a dozen or two hours than the rest of my life over here, and that kind of thing being more common would probably help people be able to more easily shake it off) but I think the tramatic part is the stalker behaviour and being directly targeted by someone with a lewd motive. And it being done when the person sending it knows it's undesired and forcing them to look is kind of almost rapey. So for me, I'd find it creepy if somebody was targeting me with that, but would have zero issues approaching it from "I'm here to filter out the dick picks so I'm going to see a lot of anatomy". This is very different to e.g. gore where I actualy do feel a bit physically sick if I know it's real, but if I randomly see nudity that's not motivated at me it's basically nothing.
  - chmod775 3y ago
    > Hands are completely different than genitals. Completely? Yeah, I don't see it. Maybe because I'm German and there's very little fuss made about nudity over here*, which in turn makes me very confident it's just a cultural thing. Society taught you that there's something special about genitals, so you start believing it. Most people can probably overcome this through simple exposure or doctors would have a problem. What's going to matter more is the setting. I'm guessing the pictures are supposed to be sexual, which might affect viewers more than the fact it's a picture of a penis. > There are many women who are traumatized by getting sent dick photos. I'm sorry, but if seeing a penis can traumatize someone, there's something wrong with them - and it's not the fact they've been sent a dick pic. It doesn't excuse others being intrusive or exploiting that vulnerability, but it's still a vulnerability that is way abnormal and should probably be addressed. Overall I agree with you that it can affect someone, but I'd do so with more nuance than using words like "trauma". *There's way more "extreme" examples than Germans, even ignoring our animal relatives.
Broken_Hippo 3y ago
having to look at dick pics all day is not healthy Why? I mean, if you are just looking at nudity - even if the men are 'prepared for sex' - at the end of the day, it is just nudity. I've worked in nursing homes. Other folks work at hospitals. Lots of folks see nudity everyday. Lots of those folks see genitals daily, in a much more intimate way than a dick pic. I don't really get what is so unhealthy about it. There is nothing inherently wrong with simple nudity in general, even when it is suggestive.
- intended 3y ago
  Theres more nudity seen in one day by a T&S team than what a whole hospital will have to deal with. Finally, you curtail your argument by saying “simple nudity”. Trust and Safety exists because of context and action. These arent tasteful nudes or art people are looking at. I wont speculate too much, but the intent of a picture, the context and the target make a difference. Sending a pic to someone not interested in them, or a minor - has a vastly different connotation.
  - bozhark 3y ago
    So porn actors can’t handle their jobs?
  - Broken_Hippo 3y ago
    In general, sex isn't something to get upset about. A hard penis isn't traumatic. It is still simple nudity. Heck, it isn't even universally linked to sex. I don't have a penis, but from what I understand, they do randomly become erect and cycle through this stage during sleep. A penis, even in hand and suggestive, is still simple nudity. None of the people in the center have had it sent to them personally, and surely they know. Harassment using pictures of yourself is different: That's harassment, and should be frowned upon. They are still using simple nudity to do it, and the nudity isn't the issue.
    - watwut 3y ago
      The pics they were looking at were not "simple nudity" and it is puzzling why you insist on framing it that way. People can and do communicate through pictures more then just mere object of it. That being said, if it was a picture of a penis erect in sleep, the context of "probably not consensualy taken" on itself makes it more disturbing. And seeing a lot of these can easily make you more paranoid to sleep where you can't lock door and everything.
itronitron 3y ago
I would expect/hope that you all developed a fairly wicked sense of humor in order to deal with that mess.
iamflimflam1 3y ago
Interesting set of replies. To expand a bit. One of the reasons why it could be seen as unhealthy. You are moderating profile pics. These are picture that will be shown publicly on someone’s profile. What you receive are a large number of dick pics. You reject the pics explaining why they are inappropriate and just receive more. What do you start to think about men in general?
jdthedisciple 3y ago
Oh and of course these women had literally no other choice but to work there or starve to death ... right
- Der_Einzige 3y ago
  In a place like Kenya that may in fact have been in the case
  - jdthedisciple 3y ago
    Where did OP I responded to mention Kenya ... ??
rldjbpin 3y ago
to me the unhealthy part is just having the sheer volume of the same thing all day for a job. at the same level as watching paint dry all day.

dudeinjapan 3y ago

Just imagine how my urologist feels. He needs to look at actual dicks all day.

mslt 3y ago
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- aikinai 3y ago
  I’m not GP, but I assume the point is that it’s part of the job. Coroners look at real dead people all day. EMTs see horrific injuries. Many jobs have unpleasant aspects, some horrible, but this isn’t novel or unique.
- stinos 3y ago
  That's your opinion, here's mine: I found it sort of funny, plus it actually raises an interesting point (definitely not useless, plus bonus points for such humor btw): I always wonder how gynaecologists, urologists, ... mentally deal with this exact aspect. For instance: what is sex in the evening like if you've seen x different genitals during the day? How easy is it to separate that? Or is there no separation perhaps?
  - tjpnz 3y ago
    Different context. There's not a sexual dimension to it at all.
    - serf 3y ago
      >There's not a sexual dimension to it at all. that's the ideal professional. there are plenty of stories of sub-ideal professionals.[0] [1]: https://www.newsweek.com/doctor-rape-pregnant-woman-giovanni-quintella-bezerra-arrested-brazil-1725079 https://www.newsweek.com/doctor-rape-pregnant-woman-giovanni...
    - stinos 3y ago
      Honest question: do you have such job yourself? Or do you intimately know multiple people who do? Or does this come from research? Because if not, that would just sound like how you'd want it to be. Not necessarily what it is like in reality. But in any case: yes, I know it's a different context, but that's not the question. Rather: is it realy that easy to just separate context 100%, and at will?
  - meindnoch 3y ago
    I'd be surprised if more than 1% of people could get an erection in a urologist's office (unless their visit is due to priapism). You're likely visiting due to a painful or embarrassing problem with your equipment.
    - stinos 3y ago
      In this case I was actually wondering about the urologist, not the patients themselves. The latter is a situation I've been in myself so it's easier to relate to and reason about.
- donatj 3y ago
  I think it made a valid commentary about how silly the parent comment was. You almost certainly just become completely desensitized to genitalia pretty quickly. There’s nothing innately terrible or scarring about human anatomy, the taboo is purely cultural. Some basic exposure and you get used to seeing them. Just becomes like seeing a foot or an arm. I think that’s the point being made though a little more glibly.
jb1991 3y ago
Just think about how many politicians feel. They have to speak to actual dicks every day, and some of them have to actually be a dick all day.
- akudha 3y ago
  Wait, politicians have feelings???
cultofmetatron 3y ago
> Just imagine how my urologist feels. He needs to look at actual dicks all day. worse, he has to look at actual diseased dicks all day. not enough eye bleach in kiev
Der_Einzige 3y ago
That’s not even the half of it. They have to deal with people with kidney stones and some of the treatments for that are NSFL

mattigames 3y ago

That's just bad hiring, you need to hire the ones that like to look at dick picks, you know, the ones who get zero mental toll from it.

sph 3y ago

Nonsense. Looking at a part of human anatomy is scarring only if you're an incurable prude. Would looking at human hands all day "take its mental toll"? Probably because it would be as boring as watching paint dry, and doing that day in day out is not good for one's sanity.

spinach 3y ago
Hands are completely different than genitals. There is reason why being exposing oneself in public is a crime. No one who didn't consent should be a part of someone else's fetish. It's not simply about being a "prude" although there is nothing wrong with being that either. There are many women who are traumatized by getting sent dick photos, it's intrusive and disgusting and the people who send them know it.
- stephen_g 3y ago
  I don't disagree that kind of thing being targeted at a person can be psychologically damaging, but not because there's anything specifically different about the genitals. It's all about the motive and meaning behind it. I think the Anglosphere's over-sexulisation of any and all nudity makes it worse than it needs to be (I think my exposure to e.g. Germany's sauna culture on a few trips has really helped me form a healither attitudes to nudity in a dozen or two hours than the rest of my life over here, and that kind of thing being more common would probably help people be able to more easily shake it off) but I think the tramatic part is the stalker behaviour and being directly targeted by someone with a lewd motive. And it being done when the person sending it knows it's undesired and forcing them to look is kind of almost rapey. So for me, I'd find it creepy if somebody was targeting me with that, but would have zero issues approaching it from "I'm here to filter out the dick picks so I'm going to see a lot of anatomy". This is very different to e.g. gore where I actualy do feel a bit physically sick if I know it's real, but if I randomly see nudity that's not motivated at me it's basically nothing.
- chmod775 3y ago
  > Hands are completely different than genitals. Completely? Yeah, I don't see it. Maybe because I'm German and there's very little fuss made about nudity over here*, which in turn makes me very confident it's just a cultural thing. Society taught you that there's something special about genitals, so you start believing it. Most people can probably overcome this through simple exposure or doctors would have a problem. What's going to matter more is the setting. I'm guessing the pictures are supposed to be sexual, which might affect viewers more than the fact it's a picture of a penis. > There are many women who are traumatized by getting sent dick photos. I'm sorry, but if seeing a penis can traumatize someone, there's something wrong with them - and it's not the fact they've been sent a dick pic. It doesn't excuse others being intrusive or exploiting that vulnerability, but it's still a vulnerability that is way abnormal and should probably be addressed. Overall I agree with you that it can affect someone, but I'd do so with more nuance than using words like "trauma". *There's way more "extreme" examples than Germans, even ignoring our animal relatives.

Broken_Hippo 3y ago

having to look at dick pics all day is not healthy Why? I mean, if you are just looking at nudity - even if the men are 'prepared for sex' - at the end of the day, it is just nudity. I've worked in nursing homes. Other folks work at hospitals. Lots of folks see nudity everyday. Lots of those folks see genitals daily, in a much more intimate way than a dick pic. I don't really get what is so unhealthy about it. There is nothing inherently wrong with simple nudity in general, even when it is suggestive.

intended 3y ago
Theres more nudity seen in one day by a T&S team than what a whole hospital will have to deal with. Finally, you curtail your argument by saying “simple nudity”. Trust and Safety exists because of context and action. These arent tasteful nudes or art people are looking at. I wont speculate too much, but the intent of a picture, the context and the target make a difference. Sending a pic to someone not interested in them, or a minor - has a vastly different connotation.
- bozhark 3y ago
  So porn actors can’t handle their jobs?
- Broken_Hippo 3y ago
  In general, sex isn't something to get upset about. A hard penis isn't traumatic. It is still simple nudity. Heck, it isn't even universally linked to sex. I don't have a penis, but from what I understand, they do randomly become erect and cycle through this stage during sleep. A penis, even in hand and suggestive, is still simple nudity. None of the people in the center have had it sent to them personally, and surely they know. Harassment using pictures of yourself is different: That's harassment, and should be frowned upon. They are still using simple nudity to do it, and the nudity isn't the issue.
  - watwut 3y ago
    The pics they were looking at were not "simple nudity" and it is puzzling why you insist on framing it that way. People can and do communicate through pictures more then just mere object of it. That being said, if it was a picture of a penis erect in sleep, the context of "probably not consensualy taken" on itself makes it more disturbing. And seeing a lot of these can easily make you more paranoid to sleep where you can't lock door and everything.

itronitron 3y ago

I would expect/hope that you all developed a fairly wicked sense of humor in order to deal with that mess.

iamflimflam1 3y ago

Interesting set of replies. To expand a bit. One of the reasons why it could be seen as unhealthy. You are moderating profile pics. These are picture that will be shown publicly on someone’s profile. What you receive are a large number of dick pics. You reject the pics explaining why they are inappropriate and just receive more. What do you start to think about men in general?

jdthedisciple 3y ago

Oh and of course these women had literally no other choice but to work there or starve to death ... right

Der_Einzige 3y ago
In a place like Kenya that may in fact have been in the case
- jdthedisciple 3y ago
  Where did OP I responded to mention Kenya ... ??

rldjbpin 3y ago

to me the unhealthy part is just having the sheer volume of the same thing all day for a job. at the same level as watching paint dry all day.