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Jodorowsky's Dune – Official Trailer HD (2014)

56 points by aurelien 3y ago

anotherhue 3y ago
Easily one of my favourite documentaries.
- deleted 3y ago
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- codelikeawolf 3y ago
  Ditto. The Orson Welles story always cracks me up: https://youtu.be/c6xQd0vJGkg?si=uJe1Z9BtNkM1Ycso https://youtu.be/c6xQd0vJGkg?si=uJe1Z9BtNkM1Ycso
  - anotherhue 3y ago
    If you like that https://youtu.be/TpqwY7QL7r8?feature=shared https://youtu.be/TpqwY7QL7r8?feature=shared
karmakaze 3y ago
The material should be fed into ChatGPT et al, and see what we get to watch. There could be many versions that vary by the feeding/prompting process.
- jfischerdev 3y ago
  I think there are actually sketches from the preproduction phase in the documentary. H.R. Giger was involved at the time.
  - karmakaze 3y ago
    The extent of material is what made me think it would be enough input to get useful something out. There were also Midjourney images generated for 'Jodorowsky's Tron[0]. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3Yfv4kedD8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3Yfv4kedD8
  - bmitc 3y ago
    Do you know if any of the storyboarding or concept art was ever published?
    - CyanBird 3y ago
      Parts of it yeah There are some Google drive links with compiled art of the movie 2 years ago or so there was a push by an nft group with fair amount of money to purchase a copy of the dune storybook by jodo that they released to studios.... But it was not meant to be, you might be able to read of it on the web
    - rapjr9 3y ago
      You can find a video of the whole book, page by page on the Internet Archive: https://archive.org/details/dune-bible-viewing-alejandro-jodorowskys-dune-complete-book https://archive.org/details/dune-bible-viewing-alejandro-jod... Unfortunately most video players don't let you expand the picture to larger than the screen, zoom in, or crop the image, and the image of the book only fills about half the screen so the words are not very readable. A little post processing in a video editor might solve that. Might need same AI resolution enhancement. Just found you can play it in the Chrome browser and zoom in, but it doesn't help, the data is just not there to be able to read the text. May AI could recover it, maybe the world has to wait for a properly scanned official version.
  - tetrisgm 3y ago
    FYI the whole manuscript was bought a couple of years ago. There's a whole story there, but it's out there :)
ekianjo 3y ago
Difficult to say how the movie would have actually turned out though (I watched the documentary before). It could also easily have been a huge mess.
ginko 3y ago
Much of the original planning and ideas of Jodorowsky's Dune was eventually used in Jodorowsky and Mœbius' "The Incal" series[1]. Two years or so ago Taika Waititi and Jodorowsky announced they're working on a movie version of that[2]. I really really hope that one will get made. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Incal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Incal [2] https://www.theincalmovie.com/ https://www.theincalmovie.com/
thriftwy 3y ago
We have three Dunes at this point, suggesting the attention may be shifted somewhere else. Hyperion, anyone? Or perhaps some Vernor Vinge? You could also obvious film Barrayar space opera. So surprising why it was never done. It's so now it makes contemporarity feel like fake.
- chuckadams 3y ago
  Don't forget John Harrison's Dune miniseries. That was definitely not the greatest production, feeling like sort of the anti-Villeneuve in terms of scale. But I did get a kick out of how Baron Harkonnen ended each of his scenes with a rhyming couplet.
  - tetrisgm 3y ago
    I would also recommend its often forgotten sequel, Children of Dune, which covers both books 2 and 3. Fans agree its a wonderful and faithful adaptation. James McAvoy as Leto II is just perfect.
- foreigner 3y ago
  It just have been a decade since I've read Hyperion and I'm still scared of the Shrike.
- bmitc 3y ago
  What is the third Dune? Are you referring to films or the two films plus the book(s)?
  - thriftwy 3y ago
    Two films plus miniseries.
    - bmitc 3y ago
      Ah, I see. I didn't realize there was a miniseries. Such a long and detailed book could probably benefit from a miniseries as opposed to films.
Slevin11 3y ago
Have you actually watched Jodorowskys movies? Because if you go and watch one, you know that his Dune would be have been an absolutely incomprehensible nightmare. The costuming would have been really cool, but the story would have been totally changed to be incoherent, and it would have become an infamous scandal at changing a movie away from the book storyline. I was so intrigued by this documentary, and how amazing it might be, until I went and actually watched ‘El Topo’. It was probably the worst movie I’ve ever watched… To this day everyone I asked to watch it with me will bring up how bad and weird,incoherent, and gross it was.
- GoodJokes 3y ago
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- dsugarman 3y ago
  Doesn't sound terribly different than how I perceived the actual movie. I often describe Dune as a 3 hour trailer. I didn't hate it due to the visuals and the immersive sound at the theater but I would have probably been pretty upset with my wasted time if I saw it at home.
- echelon_musk 3y ago
  A part of me did laugh out at the thought of you naively sitting down with a group of friends to watch a Jodorowsky movie. Having watched The Holy Mountain, El Topo and Santa Sangre I could only imagine how awkward this was. Regarding the creative process of creating Dune, Jodorowsky has this to say in the documentary: > "if you respect the woman, you will never have child. You need to open the costume and to... to rape the bride." Which is a horrifying choice of words considering Jodorwsky "claimed in a 1970 interview to have raped his co-star Mara Lorenzio on camera" [0]. [0] https://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/0/director-bragged-on-camera-rape-alejandro-jodorowskys-el-topo/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/0/director-bragged-on-came...
  - diggan 3y ago
    > Which is a horrifying choice of words considering Jodorwsky "claimed in a 1970 interview to have raped his co-star Mara Lorenzio on camera" [0]. I can't read the article you linked as it seems limited to members, but it seems there is more to this story than that. More information about it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alejandro_Jodorowsky#Criticism_and_controversy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alejandro_Jodorowsky#Criticism...
intrasight 3y ago
Only if
rib3ye 3y ago
After seeing Jodorowsky's concepts, I can imagine the producers actually found Lynch's vision to be the more fiscally conservative.
tetrisgm 3y ago
I have a personal anecdote about the documentary. I am a huge Dune fan. Book 4 is my favorite of all time. I also grew up in France, loving Bilal and Jodorowsky's work. At the time io9 was the only outlet regularly covering the progress on the documentary. It was just a super niche sci-fi documentary. Before the movie released, io9 organized a little screening, which they mentioned on their blog. I had to be there! Sent an email to the staff, explaining how important it was that I would see this film. I'd sit on the stairs if I have to. The team was super cool and told me I could go with a friend. We saw it and it was awesome. They organized a little get together after the screening and we talked about the movie. I think the whole thing was put together by Charlie Jane. It was such a cool experience, I really loved that. Thanks io9 for helping this documentary!
Havoc 3y ago
Never understood where he got the clown-like colourful chequered spaceships from. There is nothing like that in the books & it just feels out of place
pentagrama 3y ago
I saw that documentary when released and to be honest, I didn't believe many stories Jodorowsky tells about that project, in some cases he sound like my old uncle adding a bunch of lies to his stories to make it more interesting. Of course he has storybooks and many stories I'm sure are true.

56 points by aurelien 3y ago

anotherhue 3y ago

Easily one of my favourite documentaries.

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codelikeawolf 3y ago
Ditto. The Orson Welles story always cracks me up: https://youtu.be/c6xQd0vJGkg?si=uJe1Z9BtNkM1Ycso https://youtu.be/c6xQd0vJGkg?si=uJe1Z9BtNkM1Ycso
- anotherhue 3y ago
  If you like that https://youtu.be/TpqwY7QL7r8?feature=shared https://youtu.be/TpqwY7QL7r8?feature=shared

karmakaze 3y ago

The material should be fed into ChatGPT et al, and see what we get to watch. There could be many versions that vary by the feeding/prompting process.

jfischerdev 3y ago
I think there are actually sketches from the preproduction phase in the documentary. H.R. Giger was involved at the time.
- karmakaze 3y ago
  The extent of material is what made me think it would be enough input to get useful something out. There were also Midjourney images generated for 'Jodorowsky's Tron[0]. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3Yfv4kedD8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3Yfv4kedD8
- bmitc 3y ago
  Do you know if any of the storyboarding or concept art was ever published?
  - CyanBird 3y ago
    Parts of it yeah There are some Google drive links with compiled art of the movie 2 years ago or so there was a push by an nft group with fair amount of money to purchase a copy of the dune storybook by jodo that they released to studios.... But it was not meant to be, you might be able to read of it on the web
  - rapjr9 3y ago
    You can find a video of the whole book, page by page on the Internet Archive: https://archive.org/details/dune-bible-viewing-alejandro-jodorowskys-dune-complete-book https://archive.org/details/dune-bible-viewing-alejandro-jod... Unfortunately most video players don't let you expand the picture to larger than the screen, zoom in, or crop the image, and the image of the book only fills about half the screen so the words are not very readable. A little post processing in a video editor might solve that. Might need same AI resolution enhancement. Just found you can play it in the Chrome browser and zoom in, but it doesn't help, the data is just not there to be able to read the text. May AI could recover it, maybe the world has to wait for a properly scanned official version.
- tetrisgm 3y ago
  FYI the whole manuscript was bought a couple of years ago. There's a whole story there, but it's out there :)

ekianjo 3y ago

Difficult to say how the movie would have actually turned out though (I watched the documentary before). It could also easily have been a huge mess.

ginko 3y ago

Much of the original planning and ideas of Jodorowsky's Dune was eventually used in Jodorowsky and Mœbius' "The Incal" series[1]. Two years or so ago Taika Waititi and Jodorowsky announced they're working on a movie version of that[2]. I really really hope that one will get made. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Incal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Incal [2] https://www.theincalmovie.com/ https://www.theincalmovie.com/

thriftwy 3y ago

We have three Dunes at this point, suggesting the attention may be shifted somewhere else. Hyperion, anyone? Or perhaps some Vernor Vinge? You could also obvious film Barrayar space opera. So surprising why it was never done. It's so now it makes contemporarity feel like fake.

chuckadams 3y ago
Don't forget John Harrison's Dune miniseries. That was definitely not the greatest production, feeling like sort of the anti-Villeneuve in terms of scale. But I did get a kick out of how Baron Harkonnen ended each of his scenes with a rhyming couplet.
- tetrisgm 3y ago
  I would also recommend its often forgotten sequel, Children of Dune, which covers both books 2 and 3. Fans agree its a wonderful and faithful adaptation. James McAvoy as Leto II is just perfect.
foreigner 3y ago
It just have been a decade since I've read Hyperion and I'm still scared of the Shrike.
bmitc 3y ago
What is the third Dune? Are you referring to films or the two films plus the book(s)?
- thriftwy 3y ago
  Two films plus miniseries.
  - bmitc 3y ago
    Ah, I see. I didn't realize there was a miniseries. Such a long and detailed book could probably benefit from a miniseries as opposed to films.

Slevin11 3y ago

Have you actually watched Jodorowskys movies? Because if you go and watch one, you know that his Dune would be have been an absolutely incomprehensible nightmare. The costuming would have been really cool, but the story would have been totally changed to be incoherent, and it would have become an infamous scandal at changing a movie away from the book storyline. I was so intrigued by this documentary, and how amazing it might be, until I went and actually watched ‘El Topo’. It was probably the worst movie I’ve ever watched… To this day everyone I asked to watch it with me will bring up how bad and weird,incoherent, and gross it was.

GoodJokes 3y ago
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dsugarman 3y ago
Doesn't sound terribly different than how I perceived the actual movie. I often describe Dune as a 3 hour trailer. I didn't hate it due to the visuals and the immersive sound at the theater but I would have probably been pretty upset with my wasted time if I saw it at home.
echelon_musk 3y ago
A part of me did laugh out at the thought of you naively sitting down with a group of friends to watch a Jodorowsky movie. Having watched The Holy Mountain, El Topo and Santa Sangre I could only imagine how awkward this was. Regarding the creative process of creating Dune, Jodorowsky has this to say in the documentary: > "if you respect the woman, you will never have child. You need to open the costume and to... to rape the bride." Which is a horrifying choice of words considering Jodorwsky "claimed in a 1970 interview to have raped his co-star Mara Lorenzio on camera" [0]. [0] https://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/0/director-bragged-on-camera-rape-alejandro-jodorowskys-el-topo/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/0/director-bragged-on-came...
- diggan 3y ago
  > Which is a horrifying choice of words considering Jodorwsky "claimed in a 1970 interview to have raped his co-star Mara Lorenzio on camera" [0]. I can't read the article you linked as it seems limited to members, but it seems there is more to this story than that. More information about it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alejandro_Jodorowsky#Criticism_and_controversy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alejandro_Jodorowsky#Criticism...

intrasight 3y ago

Only if

rib3ye 3y ago

After seeing Jodorowsky's concepts, I can imagine the producers actually found Lynch's vision to be the more fiscally conservative.

tetrisgm 3y ago

I have a personal anecdote about the documentary. I am a huge Dune fan. Book 4 is my favorite of all time. I also grew up in France, loving Bilal and Jodorowsky's work. At the time io9 was the only outlet regularly covering the progress on the documentary. It was just a super niche sci-fi documentary. Before the movie released, io9 organized a little screening, which they mentioned on their blog. I had to be there! Sent an email to the staff, explaining how important it was that I would see this film. I'd sit on the stairs if I have to. The team was super cool and told me I could go with a friend. We saw it and it was awesome. They organized a little get together after the screening and we talked about the movie. I think the whole thing was put together by Charlie Jane. It was such a cool experience, I really loved that. Thanks io9 for helping this documentary!

Havoc 3y ago

Never understood where he got the clown-like colourful chequered spaceships from. There is nothing like that in the books & it just feels out of place

pentagrama 3y ago

I saw that documentary when released and to be honest, I didn't believe many stories Jodorowsky tells about that project, in some cases he sound like my old uncle adding a bunch of lies to his stories to make it more interesting. Of course he has storybooks and many stories I'm sure are true.