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This technology has clear military applications. It is amazing watching the nature of war changing literally year by year. I assume this is what it was like in

by roenxi 3y ago

This technology has clear military applications. It is amazing watching the nature of war changing literally year by year. I assume this is what it was like in the World War I & II era watching tanks being developed.

godzillabrennus 3y ago
I think the observer in that era was watching it change in the streets if they were lucky enough to survive.
downWidOutaFite 3y ago
It's so much cheaper than tanks though, as long you can get a satellite connection. Which means Elon is ideally positioned to compete with nation states if he wants to. I mean more than he already is. Scary dude.
- intrasight 3y ago
  He'll be more scary when he lives on Mars
- borissk 3y ago
  Given the SpaceX unrivaled space launch powers Elon can deploy a number of Rods of God and play God.
p1mrx 3y ago
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awinter-py 3y ago
not my area, but it seems like states who use small drones have begun manufacturing their own https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-produce-one-million-drones-next-year-zelenskiy-says-2023-12-19/ https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-produce-one-mil... https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/construction-progresses-russian-plant-iranian-drones-report-2023-11-13/ https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/construction-progresses... ^ not just ukraine but I think they're the farthest along this curve
ramraj07 3y ago
How so? This thing is large and likely loud enough to be useless in any real warzone that we have nowadays.
- JeffSnazz 3y ago
  > This thing is large and likely loud enough to be useless in any real warzone that we have nowadays you realize we still use planes in combat right
  - ramraj07 3y ago
    You see any planes used in the Ukraine ?
    - Zanfa 3y ago
      According to recent reports, at least Russia is launching glide bombs from airplanes on a daily basis. They don’t do it over frontlines though, so not much footage available.
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- yakshaving_jgt 3y ago
  You can hear Shahed 136s pretty clearly, and they still do a lot of damage. I know from experience.
  - borissk 3y ago
    It's sad that the West doesn't at least set up a few new production lines for air defense rockets and help Ukraine eliminate the Russian drones (at least the big ones), missiles, helicopters and airplanes.
    - numpad0 3y ago
      They should be designing a bolt-on guidance package and a booster stage for Hydra rockets using abundant cheap RISC-V processors and leveraging Ardupilot - not so ironically
29athrowaway 3y ago
Military drone from 1964 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_D-21 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_D-21
- MeImCounting 3y ago
  Completely different type of drone with completely differing military applications.
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pvg 3y ago
DJI Drones have been used in Ukraine as reported by Yaroslav Trofimov https://www.wsj.com/articles/ukraines-drone-spotters-on-front-lines-wage-new-kind-of-war-11659870805 https://www.wsj.com/articles/ukraines-drone-spotters-on-fron... and his book that just came out
hnu123 3y ago
> I assume this is what it was like in the World War I & II era watching tanks being developed. A better analogy would be the airplane as it had dual civilian-military uses like the drone. Whereas a tank is solely a military use vehicle. But the drone definitely has the ability to change war like the airplane did. Especially drone swarms backed by AI. You could buy 100,000 drones for the price of a single jet fighter. Imagine millions or even billions of drones fighting to take control over a city.
- borissk 3y ago
  A tank is basically a tractor with a gun attached :)
  - semi-extrinsic 3y ago
    Exactly this, an important part of the origin of the tank was the tractor made by the Holt company, which today is Caterpillar. The first German and French tanks in WWI were modified Holt tractors, and the unmodified machines saw widespread use for pulling artillery guns. The reason for Caterpillar pivoting towards construction equipment after WWI is that they had essentially only made military equipment during the war, so their equipment gradually shifted towards larger and heavier machines. When peace came, their products were too heavy to be used as farm equipment, but perfect for construction.
- imtringued 3y ago
  You mean it's like artillery but more expensive and less effective?
  - nicbou 3y ago
    Except that the shell can deliver itself through a house window, with no gun noise signature.
colordrops 3y ago
I saw a video of a drone fly up to palestinians on a rooftop patio and tell them to leave their building. Looked like something out of a scifi movie.
ekianjo 3y ago
Anti drone tech is evolving too and its not that far fetched to imagine auto sniper bots trained to shoot drones with image vision.
InCityDreams 3y ago
r/ukrainewarvideoreport
numpad0 3y ago
The 20th century is finally over and we're reverting to pre-Napoleonic model of military and technology - military technology as a meme and synonym for future civilian high-tech is no more; the flow of technologies reverses and increasingly more will become dual-role technologies with military applications because civilian versions will simply be milestones ahead of military head commits, and this will have implications on... I was letting my old friend rubber-duck on me with these topics, I think 5 < x < 10 years ago. I don't know who he was quoting, sounds kind of right in retrospective.

by roenxi 3y ago

godzillabrennus 3y ago

I think the observer in that era was watching it change in the streets if they were lucky enough to survive.

downWidOutaFite 3y ago

It's so much cheaper than tanks though, as long you can get a satellite connection. Which means Elon is ideally positioned to compete with nation states if he wants to. I mean more than he already is. Scary dude.

intrasight 3y ago
He'll be more scary when he lives on Mars
borissk 3y ago
Given the SpaceX unrivaled space launch powers Elon can deploy a number of Rods of God and play God.

p1mrx 3y ago

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awinter-py 3y ago

not my area, but it seems like states who use small drones have begun manufacturing their own https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-produce-one-million-drones-next-year-zelenskiy-says-2023-12-19/ https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-produce-one-mil... https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/construction-progresses-russian-plant-iranian-drones-report-2023-11-13/ https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/construction-progresses... ^ not just ukraine but I think they're the farthest along this curve

ramraj07 3y ago

How so? This thing is large and likely loud enough to be useless in any real warzone that we have nowadays.

JeffSnazz 3y ago
> This thing is large and likely loud enough to be useless in any real warzone that we have nowadays you realize we still use planes in combat right
- ramraj07 3y ago
  You see any planes used in the Ukraine ?
  - Zanfa 3y ago
    According to recent reports, at least Russia is launching glide bombs from airplanes on a daily basis. They don’t do it over frontlines though, so not much footage available.
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yakshaving_jgt 3y ago
You can hear Shahed 136s pretty clearly, and they still do a lot of damage. I know from experience.
- borissk 3y ago
  It's sad that the West doesn't at least set up a few new production lines for air defense rockets and help Ukraine eliminate the Russian drones (at least the big ones), missiles, helicopters and airplanes.
  - numpad0 3y ago
    They should be designing a bolt-on guidance package and a booster stage for Hydra rockets using abundant cheap RISC-V processors and leveraging Ardupilot - not so ironically

29athrowaway 3y ago

Military drone from 1964 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_D-21 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_D-21

MeImCounting 3y ago
Completely different type of drone with completely differing military applications.

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pvg 3y ago

DJI Drones have been used in Ukraine as reported by Yaroslav Trofimov https://www.wsj.com/articles/ukraines-drone-spotters-on-front-lines-wage-new-kind-of-war-11659870805 https://www.wsj.com/articles/ukraines-drone-spotters-on-fron... and his book that just came out

hnu123 3y ago

> I assume this is what it was like in the World War I & II era watching tanks being developed. A better analogy would be the airplane as it had dual civilian-military uses like the drone. Whereas a tank is solely a military use vehicle. But the drone definitely has the ability to change war like the airplane did. Especially drone swarms backed by AI. You could buy 100,000 drones for the price of a single jet fighter. Imagine millions or even billions of drones fighting to take control over a city.

borissk 3y ago
A tank is basically a tractor with a gun attached :)
- semi-extrinsic 3y ago
  Exactly this, an important part of the origin of the tank was the tractor made by the Holt company, which today is Caterpillar. The first German and French tanks in WWI were modified Holt tractors, and the unmodified machines saw widespread use for pulling artillery guns. The reason for Caterpillar pivoting towards construction equipment after WWI is that they had essentially only made military equipment during the war, so their equipment gradually shifted towards larger and heavier machines. When peace came, their products were too heavy to be used as farm equipment, but perfect for construction.
imtringued 3y ago
You mean it's like artillery but more expensive and less effective?
- nicbou 3y ago
  Except that the shell can deliver itself through a house window, with no gun noise signature.

colordrops 3y ago

I saw a video of a drone fly up to palestinians on a rooftop patio and tell them to leave their building. Looked like something out of a scifi movie.

ekianjo 3y ago

Anti drone tech is evolving too and its not that far fetched to imagine auto sniper bots trained to shoot drones with image vision.

InCityDreams 3y ago

r/ukrainewarvideoreport

numpad0 3y ago

The 20th century is finally over and we're reverting to pre-Napoleonic model of military and technology - military technology as a meme and synonym for future civilian high-tech is no more; the flow of technologies reverses and increasingly more will become dual-role technologies with military applications because civilian versions will simply be milestones ahead of military head commits, and this will have implications on... I was letting my old friend rubber-duck on me with these topics, I think 5 < x < 10 years ago. I don't know who he was quoting, sounds kind of right in retrospective.