I'm arguing against Malthusian doomerism. I'm not necessarily arguing that growth can continue forever on Earth, though it can probably continue longer than Mal

I'm arguing against Malthusian doomerism. I'm not necessarily arguing that growth can continue forever on Earth, though it can probably continue longer than Malthusians predict. At some point Earth has to plateau. That's fine except for the fact that all our economic systems depend on eternal number go up. I do think that will be a crisis mid-late 21st century. My hope is that our civilization doesn't eat itself because banks can't operate the way they're accustomed to operating. I personally think self-inflicted wounds are a more likely cause for our civilization collapsing than limits to growth directly. We could start to plateau (on Earth at least) and be totally fine but nuke ourselves because we can't deal with the implications for our socioeconomic systems and elect a bunch of populist imbeciles.