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Ah yes, a city famous for its myriad job opportunities, Cleveland.

by bugglebeetle 3y ago

pixl97 3y ago
[Cleveland, at least we're not Detroit!]
- bugglebeetle 3y ago
  Detroit has better food, music, and people, but is also half-abandoned and fairly dangerous.
  - selimthegrim 3y ago
    He/she/they/it is referencing a certain "hastily made tourism video" on YouTube
nradov 3y ago
That's right, there are many job opportunities in Cleveland. The current unemployment rate there is only 3.7%. Anyone who actually wants to work can find a job.
- bugglebeetle 3y ago
  The current unemployment rate in San Francisco is 3.5%, so this is not the clever demonstration of your point you believe it to be.
  - nradov 3y ago
    You really missed the point. Some commenters have falsely claimed that there are no jobs available in lower cost of living areas, which we can see is obviously wrong based on the unemployment rate. The fact that San Francisco has a slightly lower unemployment rate doesn't invalidate that point. Compared to SF, Cleveland has much better housing affordability as measured by absolute price, median price to income ratio, home ownership rate, or any other reasonable metric. And there's nothing special about Cleveland; many other cities have similar or better affordability.
    - bugglebeetle 3y ago
      I didn’t miss any point because you’re the one who is creating false equivalencies between all US cities on the basis of unemployment rates. That there are jobs doesn’t mean that there are jobs that align with everyone’s work experiences, familial ties, or various other obligations. If I get laid off in the bay as an ML engineer and have an elderly parent who lives there that I need to take care of, that there are jobs at Sherman Williams in Cleveland isn’t very useful to me. Similarly, if I’m mid-career and pursue work in LCOL area that cuts my pay in half relative to a larger city, that could derail my lifetime earnings and ability to retire. Reality is more complicated than the simplistic narratives people use to victim blame or reinforce their just-world fantasies.

Ah yes, a city famous for its myriad job opportunities, Cleveland.

pixl97 3y ago

[Cleveland, at least we're not Detroit!]

bugglebeetle 3y ago
Detroit has better food, music, and people, but is also half-abandoned and fairly dangerous.
- selimthegrim 3y ago
  He/she/they/it is referencing a certain "hastily made tourism video" on YouTube

nradov 3y ago

That's right, there are many job opportunities in Cleveland. The current unemployment rate there is only 3.7%. Anyone who actually wants to work can find a job.

bugglebeetle 3y ago
The current unemployment rate in San Francisco is 3.5%, so this is not the clever demonstration of your point you believe it to be.
- nradov 3y ago
  You really missed the point. Some commenters have falsely claimed that there are no jobs available in lower cost of living areas, which we can see is obviously wrong based on the unemployment rate. The fact that San Francisco has a slightly lower unemployment rate doesn't invalidate that point. Compared to SF, Cleveland has much better housing affordability as measured by absolute price, median price to income ratio, home ownership rate, or any other reasonable metric. And there's nothing special about Cleveland; many other cities have similar or better affordability.
  - bugglebeetle 3y ago
    I didn’t miss any point because you’re the one who is creating false equivalencies between all US cities on the basis of unemployment rates. That there are jobs doesn’t mean that there are jobs that align with everyone’s work experiences, familial ties, or various other obligations. If I get laid off in the bay as an ML engineer and have an elderly parent who lives there that I need to take care of, that there are jobs at Sherman Williams in Cleveland isn’t very useful to me. Similarly, if I’m mid-career and pursue work in LCOL area that cuts my pay in half relative to a larger city, that could derail my lifetime earnings and ability to retire. Reality is more complicated than the simplistic narratives people use to victim blame or reinforce their just-world fantasies.