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>engineering trains you to have a very black-and-white right-or-wrong view of the world based on a few simple formulae, and this meshes with fundamentalism bett
by nineplay 3y ago
>engineering trains you to have a very black-and-white right-or-wrong view of the world based on a few simple formulae, and this meshes with fundamentalism better than it meshes with subtle liberal religious messages.
Back in the usenet days it was taken as given that any creationist was also an engineer. Creationism was nice and neat and logical unlike that handwavy big bang thing that was probably dreamed up by woolly headed academics with no practical experience.
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- 0xdeadbeefbabe 3y ago> Creationism was nice and neat and logical Also requires less faith
- stuaxo 3y agoHow?
- peteradio 3y agoGod exists or he doesn't, 50/50 chance.
- nineplay 3y agoTo some degree the idea of a Creator is easier to wrap one's head around than the idea of nothing-->something. Of course it really just rolls the question uphill since you're now faced with 'Where did the Creator come from?'. Happily there are no academic theories on this matter so there's no need to engage with it. Ultimately satisfaction doesn't come from the belief itself, satisfaction comes from the feeling of being Right while others are Wrong.
- AnimalMuppet 3y ago> Of course it really just rolls the question uphill since you're now faced with 'Where did the Creator come from?'. Creationists aren't actually faced with that question - not Creationists who believe in a God who is eternal, anyway. Things without beginnings don't have origins. If you want to actually attack that belief, you need to either 1) show that God isn't eternal, or 2) show that eternal things are impossible. Or you have to do the hard work of 3) persuading them that a purely naturalistic process fits the available evidence better than a Creator does.
- nineplay 3y agoI'm just suggesting that Creationism requires more faith than one might think at first glance. Creationist beliefs - a Creator - things which are eternal - an Eternal Creator Whether those things are easier or harder to believe than naturalistic processes is up to the reader.
- 0xdeadbeefbabe 3y ago> Happily there are no academic theories on this matter Why happily? Evolution seems like a good academic theory. Is Pascal's wager academic enough? What about Occam's razor?
- nineplay 3y agoTo clarify, there are no academic theories about where the Creator came from. Academic research on the matter would have to pre-suppose the existences of a Creator, and so far as I know there is no research group willing to take that as given.
- naasking 3y ago> To some degree the idea of a Creator is easier to wrap one's head around than the idea of nothing-->something. Of course that's a mistake, because there wasn't literally nothing, there was just something else.
- scotty79 3y agoFantasy always requires less thinking than knowledge.
- jewayne 3y agoI think of it as lowering the cognitive dissonance. Highly analytical individuals are going to tend to be more highly sensitive to any contradictions in their belief system. On which side you land might be remarkably random -- one might become an atheist, and another a Christian fundamentalist. The key is getting to a place where they see no contradictions.
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- FredPret 3y agoDon't know about this one. Engineering taught me that reality is complex and nuanced and that success is defined on a spectrum, not zero or one.
- marcosdumay 3y agoBack in the usenet days everybody using it was either an engineer or a physicist, and every single one of those people had a bias about one of those groups being wrong more often than the other.
- nineplay 3y agoI wouldn't necessarily disagree with that. There were also professors of all stripes, and of course first-year students which were wrong more often than everybody.