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Just need to solve that pesky little storage problem and it will all be coming up roses…

hedora 3y ago
H2O is a pretty robust storage solution for H2. The bigger issue is scaling down cracking stations so you can use stranded electricity from solar and wind to generate the H2.
- klodolph 3y ago
  That doesn’t make any sense at all. The point of storing H2 is to use it as a way to store energy. If you store it as H2O, you’re not storing energy any more, it’s just water. It’s like saying, “It’s easy to ship fragile glass sculptures. You just smash them into little bits and put the bits in an envelope, I don’t see why people use all that styrofoam.”
  - 7speter 3y ago
    >It’s like saying, “It’s easy to ship fragile glass sculptures. You just smash them into little bits and put the bits in an envelope, I don’t see why people use all that styrofoam You’re obviously not a New Yorker
b112 3y ago
And here we go. If the storage problem is an issue, how are all these h2 cars getting refueled? And how is the h2 getting to them? And how is it stored before shipping? It's not a problem. At all.
- klodolph 3y ago
  “It’s a problem” is not the same as “it is impossible.” Likewise, “It’s possible to ship and store H2” is not the same thing as “it’s not a problem to ship and store H2”.
  - b112 3y ago
    Meanwhile, the presumed "problem" was "preventing adoption", yet my counter point invalidated your statement. H2 is a success. It's stored. It's usable, in consumer driving applications. It's being refueled by consumers, right now, world wide. It's not a problem. At all.
    - Dylan16807 3y ago
      The more of a problem something is, the less it gets used. Showing some use doesn't disprove it being a problem. At all. And nobody said "preventing" adoption, since that's easy to misinterpret. It's reducing adoption a lot, compared to what it would be if hydrogen was as easy to store as butane or kerosene.

H2O is a pretty robust storage solution for H2. The bigger issue is scaling down cracking stations so you can use stranded electricity from solar and wind to generate the H2.

klodolph 3y ago
That doesn’t make any sense at all. The point of storing H2 is to use it as a way to store energy. If you store it as H2O, you’re not storing energy any more, it’s just water. It’s like saying, “It’s easy to ship fragile glass sculptures. You just smash them into little bits and put the bits in an envelope, I don’t see why people use all that styrofoam.”
- 7speter 3y ago
  >It’s like saying, “It’s easy to ship fragile glass sculptures. You just smash them into little bits and put the bits in an envelope, I don’t see why people use all that styrofoam You’re obviously not a New Yorker

b112 3y ago

And here we go. If the storage problem is an issue, how are all these h2 cars getting refueled? And how is the h2 getting to them? And how is it stored before shipping? It's not a problem. At all.

klodolph 3y ago
“It’s a problem” is not the same as “it is impossible.” Likewise, “It’s possible to ship and store H2” is not the same thing as “it’s not a problem to ship and store H2”.
- b112 3y ago
  Meanwhile, the presumed "problem" was "preventing adoption", yet my counter point invalidated your statement. H2 is a success. It's stored. It's usable, in consumer driving applications. It's being refueled by consumers, right now, world wide. It's not a problem. At all.
  - Dylan16807 3y ago
    The more of a problem something is, the less it gets used. Showing some use doesn't disprove it being a problem. At all. And nobody said "preventing" adoption, since that's easy to misinterpret. It's reducing adoption a lot, compared to what it would be if hydrogen was as easy to store as butane or kerosene.