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I want ChatGPT for Family. The free version gets a lot of use around here but the most powerful feature is the ability to search the web, which is only availab
by sholladay 3y ago
I want ChatGPT for Family.
The free version gets a lot of use around here but the most powerful feature is the ability to search the web, which is only available to paid users. I pay $20/month for myself and I’d happily pay a bit more for the whole family, but not $20/month per person - it adds up. Family members end up asking to borrow my phone a lot to use it.
Give me a 3-4 person plan that costs $30-$40/month. You’re leaving money on the table!
- unnouinceput 3y agoCan't you use the same account on multiple phones though? I thought this is a no brainer.
- lhnz 3y agoThis is probably correct but I'd prefer that family don't read the conversations I've had, as even if I'm not saying anything too private, it feels too intrusive (it'd be a bit like reading my inner thoughts).
- Zambyte 3y agoIt's interesting that you're so trusting of strangers knowing your inner thoughts (OpenAI) but not your family
- lhnz 3y agoI don't want my family to know I spent 3 hours chatting about the Holy Roman Empire.
- Zambyte 3y agoWhat would change if they knew?
- ics 3y agoToo much discussion about the Holy Roman Empire over dinner? People talk to get things of their mind sometimes, not the infinite pursuit of conversation.
- Zambyte 3y agoMy point was not that they should talk about the Holy Roman Empire with their family, but that they shouldn't share information with strangers that they wouldn't share with their family. If you don't want your family to know something, you shouldn't tell it to OpenAI either.
- eganist 3y ago> If you don't want your family to know something, you shouldn't tell it to OpenAI either. Yeah, I think this is an over reduction of personal privacy models, but can you tell me why you believe this?
- Zambyte 3y agoThe reason you wouldn't say something to someone is because you are afraid of the power that you give people along with that knowledge. Your family is in a a position of power, which is why it can be scary to share information with them. People at OpenAI are also at a position of power, but people who use their services seem to forget that, since they're talking to them through a computer that automatically responds.
- michaelt 3y agoHow could I look my wife in the eye, or expect my kids to grow up happy, if they knew their dad doesn't know how to use a regex to detect emojis in a string?
- Zambyte 3y agoI hope there is more going on behind those eyes than not being a regex expert
- watwut 3y agoIs that truly interesting? OP does not have to care about what AI think of him. OP does notnhave to care about accidentally offending or hurting AI either. Open does nor have to care about whether AI finds him silly or whatever. Normal humans care about all of those with their families.
- Zambyte 3y agoAI is a tool controlled by people. In this case, people who are not OP.
- eru 3y agoSo? That doesn't invalidate the point of the comment you replied to. To give another example: The cashier at the supermarket knows when I'm buying condoms, but that doesn't mean I want to tell my parents. And neither would I want to know as a parent, when or whether my kids order bondage gear on Amazon. It's not just about my information going to other people, but also keeping certain information of other people from reaching me.
- unnouinceput 3y agoFine then. You don't want to find out your family the love you have for Roman empire. But you are a programmer, yes? So make an app that's just a wrapper for ChatGPT API's you're paying for and distribute that to your family phones. They'll use your OpenAI API key and each will have their own little ChatGPT 4 to query to. Have fun.
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- sholladay 3y agoAs a general rule, I don’t share account access. I can count on one hand the number of times I’ve made an exception to that rule and it was always for something relatively benign like Spotify. Privacy isn’t the only reason to avoid sharing, either. I don’t even like that when my family picks up the remote, Apple TV assumes it’s me using the TV. They watch something and mess up my Up Next history and recommendations. I wish it supported using a PIN. I’ve thought about getting rid of the remote to force everyone to use their phone as a remote, because then it detects who is using it and automatically switches accounts. But that means everyone has to have an iPhone and have their phone charged, etc. Getting rid of the remote just for my convenience seems too inconsiderate.
- siva7 3y agoI'm certain that they will soon release anything that promises more subscriptions. ChatGPT for Family, ChatGPT for Gov, and so on...
- whycome 3y agoChatGPT for Kids™
- pyaamb 3y agoThe more I think of it the more I realize how enormous an impact this could have
- siva7 3y agoHit me up so we can work on it :)
- groestl 3y agoCan't wait for my 5 year old to start a sentence with "However, it's important to note that ..." ^^
- shikon7 3y agoIf he starts with “As an AI language model…” then you should really start to worry
- drittich 3y agoYou mean the children grow up loving the GPT more than their parents?
- eru 3y agoThey already love their TV, GameBoy and smart phone more than their parents. (Deliberately using anachronistic examples here. The issue has been with us for a while.)
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- worldsayshi 3y agoThere seems to be a plethora of somewhat ChatGPT competitive alternatives that does search the web at this point though. Maybe try phind.com? (Although I haven't yet myself tried any alternative that is clearly on par with ChatGPT 4)
- hmottestad 3y agoI haven't found the web search feature particularly useful or helpful. Far too many sites are blocking the ChatGPT bot. I also find that ChatGPT isn't getting any better search results that I would if I searched for something myself. Quality of the results varies a lot too, and ChatGPT doesn't really seem to be able to distinguish between high quality content and not so high quality content. For software development I find that Phind is pretty good at combining search results with GPT-4 in a way that increases the quality of the result. Maybe OpenAI can convince the Bing team to index everything using their embeddings. If ChatGPT could also read the text directly from Bind instead of having to "surf the web" it would be able to consume several search results at the same time. In the future I could even see Bing et al. running an LLM over all text when indexing a page to extract info and stats like a summary, keywords, truthfulness, usefulness, etc.
- osigurdson 3y agoI feel that LLMs have the potential to reorganize the web. Instead of being ad sponsored, raw, high quality data will be priced and aggregated.
- freedomben 3y agoSame experience. 90% of the time I ask it to summarize something, it can't because it's blocked. At least it has the decency to tell me that it's blocked rather than just failing (which is what Kagi does. Love Kagi, but that's a minor improvement they could make). This is where I suspect Bard is going to be an absolute beast of a product. Ability to quickly and thoroughly consume a bunch of hits and find the best and summarize and such is something uniquely able for Google (and increasingly, Kagi)
- lhl 3y agoChatGPT's web search is interminably slow and I've added to my custom prompt to not do web searches unless explicitly asked. However, I'd give Perplexity.ai a try - I've found it to be incredibly fast and useful (funnily enough, they largely also use Bing for search retrieval results) and if you pay for Pro (which I do now), you can also use GPT-4 for generating responses.
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- px43 3y agoI have a custom GPT for telling my 3 year old bedtime stories. It's super cute to listen to the two of them collaborate back and forth where my kid will add new characters (friends from school, or stuffed animals) and new wacky twists to their adventures, and the storyteller GPT will come up with a new revised version. It would be pretty rad if she could just have the app on her tablet with a family plan. She doesn't use it quite enough to justify getting her own subscription, but especially if we could share GPTs across devices, so she gets the ones I make for her, but doesn't get flooded with my work or research related GPTs.
- krzyk 3y agoOh, how does your 3 year old interact with GPT? BTW. I read once some person made automated generation of bed time stories (with childrens as the main characters) for his children using open AI API and speakers - I was quite amazed (not a thing I would do, but nice usage for gpt).
- milesskorpen 3y agoThere's pretty good voice input for chat gpt built into the iOS app.
- px43 3y agoThe ChatGPT app has a button for voice2voice.
- taylorhou 3y agoummm how do i get this? i've got a 5, 3, and 1 year old and would love this
- px43 3y agoWe just do it from the ChatGPT app on Android.
- freediver 3y agoAt Kagi we plan to offer this for $20/mo and 6 family members included. You get both paid search (much better than openai bing) + AI (gpt-3.5-turbo/claude-instant). If you need gpt-4 it will be an optional $15/mo upgrade per family member.
- freedomben 3y agoNice, I'm looking forward to that! You guys have some pretty outstanding AI chops going. I've been really impressed!
- tscolari 3y agoout of curiosity, do you cap the trial accounts anyhow? First time I'm trying Kagi, and it's been one minute+ and it is still haven't started showing "Results" (when using `!code`). Just in case you do cap, probably not the best approach if you want to attract people! update: it actually timed out with no result/explanation.
- freedomben 3y agoCode is the one I actually haven't tried. In general though they do cap trials but it's by number of requests, and it will either allow you or not, so that sounds like a bug
- fouc 3y agois gpt-3.5-turbo/claude-instant better than the model that free tier of chatgpt uses? FWIW, from my testing dolphin-2.5-mixtral-8x7b was clearly better than free tier chatgpt.
- freediver 3y agoWe are closely following but with price of the models going down so rapidly it is really hard to justify capital investement in infra/people to maintain own stack globally at production quality (at this moment, will probably make a difference at scale larger than where Kagi is today).
- londons_explore 3y agoCan't you just share the login details?
- selfportrait 3y agoSharing the same space and turning off/on the custom instructions is also very annoying.
- cyanydeez 3y agoI guarantee you they aren't leaving money on the table. they're running the same techno capitalist playbook. they want you hooked on apps, API, etc, before the real costs are brought in. they likely should be charging anywhere from 50-100$ depending on hours
- eru 3y agoBing's version can search the web.
- teleforce 3y agoAgreed on the most powerful feature is the ability to search the web. This feature single-handedly makes ChatGPT a very potent Google search alternative but without the dreaded advertisements.