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> laid off employees who worked on ... the Pixel phone. That sounds weird to me. Pixel phones has grown very fast in the last years and I don't se how it can b
by NorwegianDude 3y ago
> laid off employees who worked on ... the Pixel phone.
That sounds weird to me. Pixel phones has grown very fast in the last years and I don't se how it can be seen as anything but a great success.
- nikanj 3y agoGoogle ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
- borissk 3y agoGoogle has been cooperating with Samsung very closely lately. Maybe there's a pressure on Google from Samsung and the other big Android vendors to scale down the Pixel effort.
- BikiniPrince 3y agoYet everyone I know that owned a pixel despises it.
- __alexs 3y agoI've owned 3 generations of Pixels and they've all been great ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
- DeathArrow 3y agoMaybe the parent doesn't know you?
- __alexs 3y agoDo you ever really know anyone?
- afsag 3y agoI've owned several Nexus and Pixel phones and they universally sucked. Nexus S, Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 4, Pixel 2. I think that's all of them. I sent the last one to be fixed under warranty and they basically ignored me for six months (which I spent with no phone) until I threatened to get consumer protection from my country involved. Yeah yeah, why did I keep buying them? I have no idea. I guess I assumed the rest of Android phones sucked more.
- Pufferbo 3y agoAfter what they did the the Nexus 6P, I jumped ship to Apple.
- tauntz 3y agoI've owned 3 pixel phones and have loved all of them. Wife has owned 4 different ones and they have been all perfect, no complaints.
- antonp 3y agoI've owned 3 phones starting with nexus iirc. Looking forward to getting a refresh when current one gives out.
- sergiotapia 3y agoCount me as one anecdote that I love 'em! Best cameras I've ever used, paired with Google Photos means my wife is a happy camper and I get to look like a wizard fixing photos easily right on my phone. I can also install any .apk I want (hint: free youtube premium), why would I ever use a much more expensive, worse product like the iphone?
- dekhn 3y agoI've had very good experiences with all my Pixels. Only phone that was better was a high-end Samsung ($1000) and I sold that and replaced it with a cheap pixel. (I've had various android phones going back to the T-Mobile G1).
- wobbly_bush 3y agoI used to own a pixel phone and loved it. What made me move was the data collection, and to some extent lack of security updates on older models. Feature wise, I still like Android over iOS.
- red-iron-pine 3y agoif it didn't spaz out while installing LineageOS on it, I'd still be using my Pixel 2 XL. it was probably struggling with some hardware failures (I dropped it a lot...) and wouldn't boot after. Pixel 6s were on sale and I got one of those, no regrets. I am not enthusiastic about Google as a company, and I may consider an iPhone for my next cell, but I've been satisfied with the Pixel line so far.
- int_19h 3y agoI owned several Nexus phones as well as Pixel phones. I'd say that the Pixels were pretty decent; my main annoyance was with the fact that Google deliberately disabled some of the hardware features in that line-up to push their own proprietary solutions - most notably, there's no video output over USB-C nor Miracast, so that your only option is Chromecast.
- scopeh 3y agoHas this ever stopped google from killing a product?
- mutatio 3y agoI wonder what the reality is regarding Pixel's success; they lost me as a customer this year after it turns out the "free" Pixel 2 watch is mostly a paper weight because Fitbit and its new unified Google account requirement doesn't support Workspace custom domains. I pay for Workspaces, I paid for the device(s), but the penny has finally dropped in regards to their real motivations, they can't allow Workspaces to mingle with the private data regular accounts give them access to when it comes to Fitbit. Hopefully this will finally give me the motivation to wean off Google completely.
- flurdy 3y agoPissed me off when I realised you could use not Nest cameras nor doorbell if you have a Google Workspace account. (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
- sokoloff 3y agoCannot use them with a Google workspace account? Or cannot use them if you merely have a workspace account? The former seems like it might be reasonable (and I wouldn't want to lock a piece of home infrastructure to a workspace account anyway); the latter seems utterly insane.
- niklasrde 3y agoFor Nest Protect (the smoke alarm), if you try logging in with a workspace account it just won't let you. Had to resurrect a very old, unused Gmail account just for that.
- pretext-1 3y agoGoogle marketed Google Workspace (called “Google Apps” at the time) as a solution for individuals and families with custom domain. People still have these accounts and there is no way to migrate (e.g. purchases on Google Play, reviews on Google Maps, notes in Google Keep, etc.).
- flurdy 3y agoNot a work workspace but our family workspace, so very unreasonable. They forced us all to migrate to that... For many years Google Home with all the Nest speakers and displays have worked fine. But you are not allowed to use the nest cameras, thermostats, doorbells, etc with workspace accounts. Hence I regret buying those.
- HackerThemAll 3y agoPixel is not officially sold and supported in a substantial number of countries. It results in many issues, such as 5G not working when traveling from country to country. Or in case of Chromecast dongle, 5GHz Wi-Fi not working. Which makes my head explode, considering that they employ only "top talent" and has considerable resources to properly catalogue and implement all radio frequencies of the world. Google cannot release any product worldwide. Their knowledge doesn't go too far beyond US market. You can call it Americentrism or just lack of competence of the ones in charge.
- wayfinder 3y agoGoogle is good at making algorithms and tech but product development and long term vision have never been its strong points.
- freetinker 3y agoInstitutionally, Google has the attention span of a Goldfish. Apple will continue to entrench their position as a leader in edge computing. Apple deserve their success; I hope they don’t get complacent once the Pixel division implodes.
- herval 3y agoWas Pixel ever a big player in the Android market? I get the feeling Xiaomi and Samsung are the actual competitors Apple cares about
- mapcars 3y agoEven if technically Apple is capable their predatory business models will never make me consider any of their products worth it.
- freetinker 3y agoFair point perhaps, but they seem like the only game in town that seem to care about their customers. They’re far from perfect, but to me they are better than the rest. I really want Apple to feel some heat and have worthy competitors, but I just don’t see that.
- madeofpalk 3y agoGoogle sells approximately zero Pixel phones. Every year they'll say "we're serious this time" and promise to dump money into marketing, but it really goes nowhere and carriers continue to push other phones.
- NorwegianDude 3y agoGoogle has grown their marketshare a lot during the last few years. They sell a lot of them, very very far from zero...
- alangibson 3y agoThey sold one to me since OnePlus fell off.
- JonChesterfield 3y agoI like my pixel. Guess I'm going back to Samsung, sad times.
- alexeiz 3y agoPixel phones are OK. They are just not priced competitively. They are priced like iPhones. But who are you kidding? Pixel phones are nowhere near iPhones.
- kccqzy 3y agoPixel phones actually take better photos than iPhones. See for example a recent test https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VRoTOE3FqT0 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VRoTOE3FqT0 OTOH I browse JavaScript heavy websites on my phone and I believe due to single-threaded performance, Chrome on Android is noticeably worse than Safari on iPhone. My point is, Pixels are better than iPhones for some use cases and vice versa.
- poulpy123 3y agoI disagree, they have the best mid-range (300-500€) phone, and iPhone is not even proposing anything in this range
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- troupo 3y agoThere are continuous internal wars that we don't often see. You can get a glimpse of those in most of Google's hardware products (from Pixel phones to hubs to tablets) when they seem to be randomly prioritised/de-prioritised/re-prioritised every year. It seems that this year Pixel lost.
- mnbion 3y agoGoogle is increasingly treating Android as an iOS alternative for the developing world and outsourcing core Android development to its Indian offices. The reason they are doing this is probably because the non-tech management MBAs running Google are all using iPhones.
- conscience 3y agoWere you like I have nothing useful to add, but while I'm driving by why don't I just fart on India... The market share speaks for itself. For what it's worth, India with over a billion people is a large market for Android. Anyway, the iOS market share seems to be increasing rapidly in India. See https://telecom.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/devices/iphone-growth-streak-continues-apple-india-smartphone-market-share-may-touch-8-in-2024/104932769 https://telecom.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/devices/ip...).
- alexeiz 3y ago> non-tech management MBAs running Google are all using iPhones That's a kiss of death. I remember while working at Windows Phone team at Microsoft, a lot of program managers and designers were using iPhones and Macs. Unsurprisingly their own product never got off the ground because they failed to develop a vision for it. Android at Google is in a slightly better position, but this kind of attitude of not using your own product but preferring a competitor's one leads to inevitable decline.
- krolley 3y agoI recall around that time reading a story where if Steve Ballmer would catch you using an iPhone on the MSFT campus he would blow up. At the time, comments were "make a better phone" but I agree with your position. It's surprising though, eating your own dogfood is one of the golden rules of development. Such a pity Microsoft didn't stick with Windows Phone.
- _giorgio_ 3y agoSeems like a good news? Maybe resetting the engineering department is the only chance of innovating, when the company is so big and the (maybe bad) culture is so pervasive? Apple has fired Jony Ive, and nothing bad had happened (quite the contrary). Google has fired the head of computational photography, and nothing bad had happened.
- TheAdamist 3y agoI'm a big fan of the pixel series, if they wind up dropping it or make upcoming hardware terrible its likely to drive me to iphone unfortunately. The various third party android phones have severe drawbacks in their manufacturers tweaked android or inferior hardware.
- DonnyV 3y agoI know fitbit is going down hill. A lot of paid features aren't working for a lot of people. My wife can't get the sleep stats to work anymore.
- geodel 3y agoIt is not like those pixel phone are hand made and tuned to exacting standards by highly qualified google engineers like Mercedes Benz does it on some of its expensive models. It is a commodity gadget made at some cheap shop in Asia. So people worked pixel phone have not much to do with its growth or lack of it.