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At the end of the day I wonder what openai's endgame is here. They're starting to expand their business in a way that geometrically grows the size of the team,

At the end of the day I wonder what openai's endgame is here. They're starting to expand their business in a way that geometrically grows the size of the team, overlapping products that microsoft is offering, making the whole non-profit/capped-profit thing a head scratcher. I guess you can argue this is just a marginal add-on to their existing ChatGPT product but I can imagine seeing them go full Salesforce/Oracle/enterprise behemoth here. I would say I'm very pro AI development and pro Sam reinstating but I've been starting to shake my head a bit. Their mission and their ambition are wildly different.

martinky24 3y ago
It’s pretty obvious that once they realized how much money was on the table, the “non-profit” aspirations and goals went out the window. The Altman saga from a few months ago painted this clearly.
- engineer_22 3y ago
  How much money is on the table?
  - projectileboy 3y ago
    GDP bigger than that of the web.
toomuchtodo 3y ago
I would assume the endgame is like Microsoft: to become an OS for your org. Knowledge management, human augmentation (code, emails, copilot all the things), data analytics, workflow automations, etc. The mission changed when research ran into product market fit.
m3kw9 3y ago
This is a way to create moat, you think Zoom can survive open source with just bland features serving moms and pops? That’s how you get them to stay out of open source
waynesonfire 3y ago
I kinda see it differently. There are these incredible use-cases for what they can do with this technology but still requires massive R&D and politics. They're taking the path of least resistance with these features. They should spin off R&D and let another division handle this low-hanging fruit garbage. But, maybe this is just how a business cycle works. You get a bite and you milk it for what it's worth and let the next generation organization take it to the next level.
wilg 3y ago
> At the end of the day I wonder what openai's endgame is here Sell AI products to fund making AI
- ChatGTP 3y ago
  At some point I think there is a conflict though, the more powerful the AI models, the more risk there is to their own business.
  - drdaeman 3y ago
    Not if they move fast and build that moat to maintain their castle as the only provider of highest-quality models' services.
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martinky24 3y ago

It’s pretty obvious that once they realized how much money was on the table, the “non-profit” aspirations and goals went out the window. The Altman saga from a few months ago painted this clearly.

engineer_22 3y ago
How much money is on the table?
- projectileboy 3y ago
  GDP bigger than that of the web.

toomuchtodo 3y ago

I would assume the endgame is like Microsoft: to become an OS for your org. Knowledge management, human augmentation (code, emails, copilot all the things), data analytics, workflow automations, etc. The mission changed when research ran into product market fit.

m3kw9 3y ago

This is a way to create moat, you think Zoom can survive open source with just bland features serving moms and pops? That’s how you get them to stay out of open source

waynesonfire 3y ago

I kinda see it differently. There are these incredible use-cases for what they can do with this technology but still requires massive R&D and politics. They're taking the path of least resistance with these features. They should spin off R&D and let another division handle this low-hanging fruit garbage. But, maybe this is just how a business cycle works. You get a bite and you milk it for what it's worth and let the next generation organization take it to the next level.

wilg 3y ago

> At the end of the day I wonder what openai's endgame is here Sell AI products to fund making AI

ChatGTP 3y ago
At some point I think there is a conflict though, the more powerful the AI models, the more risk there is to their own business.
- drdaeman 3y ago
  Not if they move fast and build that moat to maintain their castle as the only provider of highest-quality models' services.

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