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My wife was watching the ITV drama on this last night and I had to leave the room. It was making me so incredibly angry that such huge injustices can be allowed

by pmx 3y ago

My wife was watching the ITV drama on this last night and I had to leave the room. It was making me so incredibly angry that such huge injustices can be allowed to take place. I recommend the show to anyone with better control of their emotions that me!

smcl 3y ago
I was just reading the other day that some MP was calling for those who were affected to have their names cleared. It's fucking astounding that this hasn't been a priority until the recent TV series on it has come out.
- hashtag-til 3y ago
  I understand this might look like complete b*llocks, but it seems they are not doing that because, despite the good aim in this specific case, would create a bad precedent. The whole case, after so many years, is as ridiculous as it gets for a government scandal - I agree. At the same time, I kind of understand why this needs to be carefully thought as a legal manoeuvre.
- MarcusE1W 3y ago
  This skandal is 6 years old. I find it hugely concerning that someone has to make a TV play that resonates with the public for politicians or anyone responsible really to show any interest in resolving this. The current activities and proposals probably have to be seen as crowd management and might not be an honest attempt for a solution, again.
  - toyg 3y ago
    The current interest will wane too, once journalists tire of mentioning that the two leaders of the opposition are tangentially involved (Davey arguably more than Starmer).
  - drcongo 3y ago
    It's 25 years old!
cpach 3y ago
Sounds horrible. Link, if anyone is curious about the production: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr_Bates_vs_The_Post_Office https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr_Bates_vs_The_Post_Office
- FerretFred 3y ago
  It is horrible! You should really visit the Justice For Subpostmaster Alliance web site for the nitty-gritty https://www.jfsa.org.uk https://www.jfsa.org.uk - there are some very interesting reports to view/download.
- M95D 3y ago
  > Outside the UK? > Due to our broadcast and content licences, you can only watch ITVX in the UK. I really wanted to pay and see it. Oh, well, I'm going to be a pirate again...
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xarope 3y ago
Is this Mr Bates vs the Post Office? Worth watching? I am just finishing up the latest season of The Crown, and was looking for some other british docudrama to watch (sometimes it's nice to watch a show without a mandated sex scene, car chase, etc)
- arethuza 3y ago
  Yes, I would recommend it and I had previously read the "The Great Post Office Scandal" book (which I would also recommend). Edit: My wife who is a pretty hard nosed commercial litigation lawyer was thoroughly shocked by it - so much so that she actually went off and read the court judgements to get more details.
  - UglyToad 3y ago
    Can wholeheartedly add my recommendation for the book. In fact I think it should be required reading for anyone in the business of software. While I felt it was a bit over-long it is incredibly thorough and well told and covers multiple different aspects of the scandal while making the human cost obvious in a way that aggregate facts and figures don't.
IshKebab 3y ago
The other annoying thing about this is that it took an ITV drama to give this any attention. All the mainstream press reported "MET opens investigation!" as if it was a new thing, and then in the article "the invitation was opened in 2020 and has interviewed 2 people". Great.

by pmx 3y ago

smcl 3y ago

I was just reading the other day that some MP was calling for those who were affected to have their names cleared. It's fucking astounding that this hasn't been a priority until the recent TV series on it has come out.

hashtag-til 3y ago
I understand this might look like complete b*llocks, but it seems they are not doing that because, despite the good aim in this specific case, would create a bad precedent. The whole case, after so many years, is as ridiculous as it gets for a government scandal - I agree. At the same time, I kind of understand why this needs to be carefully thought as a legal manoeuvre.
MarcusE1W 3y ago
This skandal is 6 years old. I find it hugely concerning that someone has to make a TV play that resonates with the public for politicians or anyone responsible really to show any interest in resolving this. The current activities and proposals probably have to be seen as crowd management and might not be an honest attempt for a solution, again.
- toyg 3y ago
  The current interest will wane too, once journalists tire of mentioning that the two leaders of the opposition are tangentially involved (Davey arguably more than Starmer).
- drcongo 3y ago
  It's 25 years old!

cpach 3y ago

Sounds horrible. Link, if anyone is curious about the production: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr_Bates_vs_The_Post_Office https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr_Bates_vs_The_Post_Office

FerretFred 3y ago
It is horrible! You should really visit the Justice For Subpostmaster Alliance web site for the nitty-gritty https://www.jfsa.org.uk https://www.jfsa.org.uk - there are some very interesting reports to view/download.
M95D 3y ago
> Outside the UK? > Due to our broadcast and content licences, you can only watch ITVX in the UK. I really wanted to pay and see it. Oh, well, I'm going to be a pirate again...
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xarope 3y ago

Is this Mr Bates vs the Post Office? Worth watching? I am just finishing up the latest season of The Crown, and was looking for some other british docudrama to watch (sometimes it's nice to watch a show without a mandated sex scene, car chase, etc)

arethuza 3y ago
Yes, I would recommend it and I had previously read the "The Great Post Office Scandal" book (which I would also recommend). Edit: My wife who is a pretty hard nosed commercial litigation lawyer was thoroughly shocked by it - so much so that she actually went off and read the court judgements to get more details.
- UglyToad 3y ago
  Can wholeheartedly add my recommendation for the book. In fact I think it should be required reading for anyone in the business of software. While I felt it was a bit over-long it is incredibly thorough and well told and covers multiple different aspects of the scandal while making the human cost obvious in a way that aggregate facts and figures don't.

IshKebab 3y ago

The other annoying thing about this is that it took an ITV drama to give this any attention. All the mainstream press reported "MET opens investigation!" as if it was a new thing, and then in the article "the invitation was opened in 2020 and has interviewed 2 people". Great.