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Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

411 points by cobychapple 14y ago

beagle3 14y ago
I have an exopc slate that I'm trying to use with Linux, and have had no luck for the last year. 12.04 doesn't make it better - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/utouch/+bug/801988 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/utouch/+bug/801988 has all the details (for the W500, but it's the same bug). Touching the screen with two fingers causes X to blow up. Touching with one finger at the wrong place causes X selection to lock-up for a few minutes. I'm almost tempted to go to Windows 7... I hope it gets fixed soon. Meego 1.2 is able to use the touchscreen without multitouch (but is otherwise unusable as a distribution). Does anyone have good experience with any ubuntu distribution on an eGalax / DWAV capacitive multitouch screen?
loboman 14y ago
I upgraded a few days ago it worked fine for me. I can't stand Unity yet however, so I'm still using Gnome.
cristiantincu 14y ago
Please excuse my ignorance, but what exactly does “final beta” mean?
- cobychapple 14y ago
  I think they're still yet to update the Ubuntu homepage (which still shows "12.04 LTS is in final beta now").
  - cristiantincu 14y ago
    This must be it. Thanks.
    - sajithdilshan 14y ago
      They've update it. Check it now.
- fingerprinter 14y ago
  Homepage hasn't been updated yet. I heard they are shooting for a 12.04pm UTC release, so just about nowish :)
  - nextparadigms 14y ago
    So is it final or still some beta version? I keep seeing beta 2 everywhere. Also, I'm not too familiar with it, so why does it imply that the 64 bit version only works on AMD CPU's? Is there no 64 bit version for Intel?
    - tresta 14y ago
      amd64 is the name for the architecture that both intel and amd use in their 64-bit desktop processors. It has that name because it was originally amd that released the architecture (and intel used itanium at the time).
      - ticks 14y ago
        They should consider renaming that ISO to something more affordable - I had no idea that it was compatible with Intel CPUs.
        babarock 14y ago
        It would then confuse the plethora of users who are already familiar with that naming standard. And those are usually mean old bearded Unix old-timers that will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and [condescending] anger. And you do not want to upset these people. Disclaimer I'm a young Unix old-timer, currently growing a beard.
        slurgfest 14y ago
        everyone* already knows what amd64 means * almost everyone who cares
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guard-of-terra 14y ago
I think the funnier name is Persuading Pedobear.
alexmuller 14y ago
Desktop release notes are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuDesktop https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuD...
- jamesgeck0 14y ago
  > Hibernate (suspend to disk) has been disabled by default, as it was found to be unreliable, very slow and confusing to have two suspend modes. See bug 812394 for details. If you want to re-enable it, please follow this recipe. As someone who runs Ubuntu on a laptop with a dead battery, that's somewhat unfortunate. > The mail client Evolution may delete folders and their contents as they are renamed or moved around in IMAP (and IMAP+) accounts. It is recommended to copy folders and contents before attempting to move or rename them. (957341) Ouch! I'm surprised a bug that big with a default application wasn't a release blocker.
  - mseebach 14y ago
    >> Hibernate (suspend to disk) has been disabled by default, as it was found to be unreliable, very slow and confusing to have two suspend modes. I'd guess from the phrasing that suspend-to-disk can still be enabled, it just isn't by default.
    - jamesgeck0 14y ago
      Yes, it can be, and the next bit says as much. I've pasted in the rest of the bullet point to clarify. I was just disappointed that such a thing has to be enabled manually now.
      - StavrosK 14y ago
        I find STR reliable, stable, fast and good enough that I think hibernation isn't really needed any more...
        lukeschlather 14y ago
eliben 14y ago
Well, let's see if this one manages to recognize and correctly use all the hardware devices of my Asus laptop. 11.04&11.10 were so bad for it I had to revert to 10.04 which I'm still using.
BrainScraps 14y ago
Been using this for the past month or so - performs well, stable, and I'm still getting used to the HUD. Once I become a master of the HUD, I'll be all set. I did have to do some tweaking to the default workspace management keybindings to be truly happy with the install, however. But if someone is coming in without any preexisting biases, the defaults may suit them just fine. (Hit the Super or "Windows" key for a guide)
- duck 14y ago
  Just to be clear, you have to hold the Super key to see the keyboard shortcuts. Also, here is a good overview of the Unity shortcuts: http://askubuntu.com/questions/28086/what-are-unitys-keyboard-and-mouse-shortcuts http://askubuntu.com/questions/28086/what-are-unitys-keyboar...
  - BrainScraps 14y ago
    Thanks for clarifying that. I disabled that feature a while back, so I forgot it was a hold.
morsch 14y ago
I usually praise the rich ecosystem of custom packages and (PPA) repositories available for Ubuntu. It means you get the stability and security of a distribution-maintained main repository as well as the up-to-date or even cutting edge nature of developer-maintained repositories. Unfortunately, it's a huge pain in the ass when updating. Packages in PPAs are built with a specific distribution in mind, and distribution release x packages aren't supported in release x+1. I think the recommended routine when upgrading is to purge all custom PPAs you are using before you upgrade. And then add them back, if available, after upgrading. Of course, you might not even need the PPA since x+1 might already have the program version you need. Still, upgrading is already a somewhat fragile process, and using lots of PPAs makes it even more prone to breaking. The upside is that it's really easy and safe to clean install over an existing install, particularly if you've got /home on it's own partition.
- rbanffy 14y ago
  Isn't this handled automatically? I remember the upgrade disabling things like Google and Virtualbox repos.
  - morsch 14y ago
    Apparently using ppa-purge is only necessary for certain critical PPAs like x-updates. Still, I think the process is fragile even if it's mostly automatic: who's to say the version you end up with after the upgrade is compatible with the one from a PPA you had been using before the upgrade.
- arbrandes 14y ago
  I have never had serious breakage after a distribution upgrade due to PPA repositories. Au contraire, the upgrade manager takes care to disable third party repositories automatically. Now, that doesn't mean that things are always flawless. My main complaint is with a) bugs in the release itself, and b) the many reckless changes in paradigm, sometimes flawed by design, and implemented with half-finished software (upstart and Unity come to mind). Because of a), I usually wait a month to upgrade. b) is more serious, and though it sometimes isn't Canonical' s fault (I'm looking at you, Gnome!), it is why I dread dist-upgrades. Finding reasonably functional and bug-free alternatives to the junk they want to shove down my throat sometimes takes months. For instance, I have only just yesterday found a decent desktop to replace Gnome2 (Mint's Cinnamon), after being homeless since the release of 11.04. Still, I wouldn't swap Ubuntu for any other distro (not even Mint, which is just another _buntu, so why bother)! The PPA system is brilliant. The community is huge, so even if bugs aren't fixed, workarounds and patches abound. And last but not least, it's the only distro I can even consider doing a dist-upgrade with the hopes of having a working system after it's done.
krat0sprakhar 14y ago
Whats the easiest way to upgrade to 12.04 LTS from 11.10? Thanks a lot!
- seclorum 14y ago
  Boot from the disk and tell it to upgrade your 11.10 installation, saving your /home folder and so on. I did exactly this on two workstations and found it works quite well ..
  - levesque 14y ago
    Is there any reason why you choose to boot from a disk? Normally you can upgrade from within your own installation without problems.
    - vibrunazo 14y ago
      To me, it's good to have a disk with the last version of ubuntu in case I need it. So if I download the disk and boot from it, I'll only download it once, versus downloading the iso + downloading the upgrade. Also, the upgrade to a new version famously have many problems. I just tried it and it crashed in the middle :S
    - seclorum 14y ago
      I just boot from disk so I can get the upgrade done as quickly as possible. This way, my machine does everything it needs to upgrade, without anything else going on. Then when its done, I let it update in the background while I make sure everything went smoothly. In this case, it went very smoothly for me, and was worth the hassle. I upgraded from Ubuntu 11.04, which had been rather a bit of a mess actually, in the Unity/Gnome3/fvwm shell department, as in I had them all and had to switch around to get certain things I liked. Unity crashed too often (in 11.04) for me to trust it. That has all changed. I am now running Ubuntu studio, which features fvwm, and nothing else. Gnome only if I truly need it, and Unity .. after the dust settles. So I'm quite comfortable in my upgrade to 12.04, and everything works like it should - full multi-channel digital audio, multi-monitor support with acceleration, and so on.
rufugee 14y ago
I'm one of those weird folk who run three monitors, and even though 12.04 promised better 2+ monitor support through Unity 2D, I still find it lacking. Perhaps it's the way I have it configured, but I use two nvidia cards with xinerama, which means I'm forced to use Unity 2D (no compositing support). Unity 2D just isn't as stable or usable. I really, really hope they put more effort to fixing this in 12.10.
- andyl 14y ago
  Have you tried Gnome? I also use 2 monitors, and hope that Gnome on 12.04 supports multi-monitors well.
  - mdesantis 14y ago
    I use Unity with 2 monitors and it is pretty good; but I didn't try Gnome
    - anthony_barker 14y ago
      I run with Unity in one window and Windows xp in vmware in another 24" without problems. Gnome works too. All you need to ensure is you have decent video card/drivers
  - obtino 14y ago
    I'm using 3 monitors in 12.04 under Unity without a hitch! Then again, I'm using 1 ATI video card (with 3 outputs) and the proprietary ATI driver. Unity has great support for multiple-monitors. Many, if not most, of the problems are due to: X, the video card drivers and Xinerama.
    - Florin_Andrei 14y ago
      Huh. Then I'll give it a try. I always disabled Unity until now, precisely for the reason that it didn't work for me on this laptop that is often docked with 2 monitors.
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cryptolect 14y ago
As someone who went to Fedora 16 after the initial Unity debacle, I've been using 12.04 on my laptops, and I must say, it's generally been a pleasant experience. I still haven't tried with multi-screens, so I'm not sure how well it works there. After a few tweaks, I'm rather chuffed with 12.04: - Change icons down to 32x32 - Auto-hide drawer - Change theme to Radiance - Set terminal font to 10 and colors to white on black / Linux colors. I recommend people give it a second chance, particularly on laptops.
- krupan 14y ago
  Does focus-follows-mouse work correctly?
- luser001 14y ago
  OT: There was an "Ellen" clip or something that was posted somewhere about UK-vs-US slangs words and iirc 'chuff' was there (the USAian didn't know what it was). I had to look up the definition to understand 100% whether you were pleased or displeased. :) PSA: chuff == Brit slang for to please or delight (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/chuff http://www.thefreedictionary.com/chuff)
akulbe 14y ago
I'm only seeing beta2 available for download. I've tried several alternative links, like mirrors.kernel.org... and all I can find anywhere is beta2, as the latest version available. #impatient :)
- nimeshneema 14y ago
  Go to this link. http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ This is the final release
  - akulbe 14y ago
    Excellent. Thanks, man. :)
FelixH 14y ago
As much as Ubuntu has matured over the years, I am pretty disappointed how many things are broken out of the box still. Being behind a proxy is a major pain as ever, as well as getting ATI graphics drivers to work properly.
- rbanffy 14y ago
  > ATI graphics drivers to work properly. You can't exactly say you haven't been warned.
  - FelixH 14y ago
    the ATI card wasn't up to me and it is really the proxy support that is the most disappointing. There are bug reports dating several years back that still haven't been addressed
wiradikusuma 14y ago
i'm thinking of triple-booting my 2009 MBP with Ubuntu (already Bootcamped with Win7). anyone has experience with Ubuntu on MBPs? any problem with hardware? i need a lightweight-but-nice-looking OS for day-to-day Java development (i use IntelliJ), Lion is taxing too much.
- argarg 14y ago
  Running ubuntu as my main OS on my 2011 MBP for a while. Everything works and is stable except for the wireless driver, which you have to compile yourself and only supports wireless G. Things may have changed in the last months though. I don't know about the 2009 MBP hardware.
- kolleykibber 14y ago
  Triple booting on Santa Rosa 2007 MBP. Upgraded to Lion from Snow Leopard and had many problems, lack of recovery partition, Spotlight failure etc. Need to reformat and reinstall all to get spotlight working again. Ubuntu is now my main OS.
- Lewisham 14y ago
  I had severe difficulty getting Ubuntu to appear as a bootable partition when installed from a USB stick. Don't install from stick, install from a disc. Whatever it did with EFI didn't work right, there were partitions on my hard drive that Mac OS X wouldn't touch, it was a mess. I had to repartition and reformat my HD and restore from Time Machine.
- h2s 14y ago
  I've been running 11.04 on my 2010 MBP for a while. It drains the battery pretty quickly. I had to mess around with the trackpad settings a bit to get that into a usable state, and I had to disable tap-to-click completely because it completely sucks at palm rejection. The startup screen is completely screwy and it often fails to turn the machine off when shutting down.
- brendoncrawford 14y ago
  I recommend using rEFIt: http://refit.sourceforge.net/ http://refit.sourceforge.net/ It can help with some of the multi-boot problems people tend to have with Ubuntu on MBP.
mdesantis 14y ago
I'm using it from the beta1, and I must say that it is awesome; apart from those notifications zero-interaction zero-configuration, I hate them!!!
- freehunter 14y ago
  The notifications in the newer Ubuntu really do irritate me. In releases of old (if my memory is correct), notifications could be clicked to bring up the program that was notifying you. Now they just go semi-transparent and can't be clicked, so I have to open the program manually. Not a huge deal, but it could have a better UX by being interactive (I'd love to be able to reply to a chat message within the notification window, ala Digsby).
  - beagle3 14y ago
    > Now they just go semi-transparent and can't be clicked I'm running 10.10 and it's the same as you describe. Which I think is the right way to do it, for anything that pops up unexpectedly. Thunderbird (and others) doe notifications the way you describe, but I don't think ubuntu (or any other distribution, or even osx for that matter) ever let you click directly on the system-wide notifications.
    - desas 14y ago
      In ubuntu they used to work like that until 10.04. In other distributions it's still common IIRC. Ubuntu swapped out the common notification daemon for one called notify-osd.
sajithdilshan 14y ago
I've been using Ubuntu 12.04 for the past month and must say it is pretty stable for a beta version and I'm so glad that final version is out. Hoping to stick with it until Ubuntu 14.04
pimentel 14y ago
I really can't stand Unity. Does this work OK with Cinnamon, for example?
- reactor 14y ago
  It has really come a long way, you may try it now. I was also in the league of people couldn't stand for Unity when it launched, but now I'm using it for couple of weeks now, its been very pleasant.
  - kijin 14y ago
    There are two kinds of people who hated Unity when it first came out. The first kind of people were mostly unhappy about Unity's bugginess and lack of functionality. These folks should be OK by now. The second kind of people just don't like the UI paradigm that Unity represents. Nothing they can ever do will make them happy with Unity. After all, that's why Ubuntu has alternative DEs! I use Xubuntu on my netbook and I'm lovin' it. (Unity 3D is too much for that little bugger.)
    - Random_Person 14y ago
      I switched to Xubuntu as well when Unity hit for all of my machines. I think I'm going to give Unity a shot this time on at least one of my laptops and see what happens. It has occurred to me that most things I want to use require GDK anyways, so XFCE isn't all that light weight any more.
      - kijin 14y ago
        You're right, XFCE isn't all that "lightweight" when you add in all the things you need to make it usable. XFCE still feels faster than GNOME or KDE on old hardware, probably because it doesn't use any semi-transparent 3D gimmicks. It is also shaping up to be a very good option for those who prefer the old GNOME look. The panel and most other UI elements are even more configurable than I remember GNOME 2 to have been. I'll be sticking with Xubuntu 12.04 for quite some time.
nilarimogard 14y ago
Some screenshots and videos here: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/04/ubuntu-1204-lts-released-see-whats-new.html http://www.webupd8.org/2012/04/ubuntu-1204-lts-released-see-...
- ryanherman 14y ago
  Awesome link thank you!
Garbage 14y ago
For the guys who are complaining about Unity, you can give a try to gnome-panel sudo apt-get install gnome-panel
- jrgifford 14y ago
  Yes, and there is a full set of instructions on how to get it looking just like gnome2.x http://askubuntu.com/q/58172/6005 http://askubuntu.com/q/58172/6005
  - runeks 14y ago
    Nice! Thanks for posting. I would totally switch to Unity if it were more customizable (a lá the GNOME's panels).
    - jrgifford 14y ago
      You're welcome! It will be customizable, but not to the extent of the GNOME panels. Part of the other problem is that it's still new, so developers don't want to build a lot of stuff with it.
viraptor 14y ago
I installed beta 2 and run into issues with disk power management. By default it had a very small timeout to spin down. Fixed manually with hdparm -S, but I didn't see any updates that correct it. If you notice your drive clicking all the time, there's your fix...
- freehunter 14y ago
  I had this problem when watching movies from the disk, oddly enough. It kept shutting down the hard drive when it was reading from the memory buffer, then when the buffer ran out it needed to pause while the drive spun back up. I haven't tried the final to see if it's fixed.
revorad 14y ago
If you have any issues (in addition to the ones already mentioned by others here), please let me know. If you're interested in buying Thinkpads with Linux pre-installed and fully tested, please sign up here - http://giniji.com/ubuntu_laptops.html http://giniji.com/ubuntu_laptops.html </plug>
- freehunter 14y ago
  This isn't necessarily directed at you (I make the same complaint to System76), but I really wish I could go on Amazon and buy a Linux laptop. I like the security of Amazon payments, the customer service, and I am a Prime subscriber so I like the free two-day shipping.
  - revorad 14y ago
    I totally understand. It's frickin' 2012 and I can't stand the fact that we can't do that. We want to sell via as many channels as possible, including Amazon. This is a tiny first step towards making a new computer company. Just need some love from hackers. Btw, we will offer free shipping :-)
    - lucian1900 14y ago
      You could try signing up as an Amazon merchant/seller.
      - revorad 14y ago
        We are signed up. However, Amazon takes a significant cut and we want to keep our prices low.
        jmilloy 14y ago
        It seems to me that Amazon is taking a cut in order offer things such as security, customer service, 2 day shipping, etc. If I want to pay a extra for these services for a laptop from your company, why wouldn't you let me? Can you offer the lower price point on your and a higher price on amazon?
floydprice 14y ago
Been using the Beta releases for a while now and I'm hooked, Unity has matured in to a really well thought out and compelling desktop environment. My absolute favorite feature is hitting the alt key (from any app) and being about to navigate the menus and options e.g. in FireFox Alt > Type "Edit" and i see all the options available - Very Slick and means i can use the keyboard to effectively navigate all apps now, Previous versions of unity didn't really lend themselves to this.
oconnore 14y ago
As someone who has been using 12.04 + Unity on my primary work computer since Alpha with minimal issues, this is awesome! It works great! Download it!
- derrida 14y ago
  Yeah, this was the first beta I've tried that didn't have one major hiccup. Maybe because it's the LTS edition?
hdeshev 14y ago
Released today? Really? On the Chernobyl disaster anniversary - April 26? I don't believe it's a coincidence!
sciurus 14y ago
Looks like ubuntu.com can't handle the load. I'm getting errors from squid when I try to visit http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/whats-new http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/whats-new
babarock 14y ago
Has anyone tried to dist-upgrade? Does it work well? Around the time I was a Ubuntu user (around Hardy 8.04), dist-upgrade would usually break your box and was discouraged by Canonical themselves. If I recall correctly.
- graywh 14y ago
  dist-upgrade won't upgrade you to the next release, just updates your current release. You want do-release-upgrade. And I've never had a problem with dist-upgrade. http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com/2010/02/dist-upgrade-misnomer-confusion.html http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com/2010/02/dist-upgra...
  - babarock 14y ago
    True, mea culpa. I meant to talk about do-release-upgrade. It's been so long I'm a little confused with the terminology :) Seamless release upgrade is crucial if you want to have a high frequency (6 month) release cycle. Glad to see they made progress with this.
- jsight 14y ago
  sudo do-release-upgrade It's generally better than dist-upgrade anyway.
- CaioAlonso 14y ago
  I heard they did a lot of testing with dist-upgrades from 11.10, 11.04 and even 10.10. But doing a backup wouldn't hurt, right?
- tebeka 14y ago
  I did an upgrade from 11.10 to the 12.04 beta. Seems to work fine.
  - SkyMarshal 14y ago
    Same, just a few days ago. Worked perfectly, no hitches, and 12.04 (even the beta) is noticeably superior to 11.10. My laptop battery life jumped from 4.5hrs to 7, kernel panics with too many Chrome tabs open and/or Flash playing are a thing of the past, etc. One of the best upgrades I've ever done.
philjackson 14y ago
I'm here to collect my OSS karma as I contributed a couple of the wallpapers to this one.
- kijin 14y ago
  Which ones? Links please.
  - philjackson 14y ago
    Smaller copies: http://omgubuntu.co.uk.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/speaker_weave_by_phil_jackson.jpg http://omgubuntu.co.uk.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2... http://omgubuntu.co.uk.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/twilight_frost_by_phil_jackson.jpg http://omgubuntu.co.uk.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2...
    - windsurfer 14y ago
      These are beautiful. Have you made more?
      - philjackson 14y ago
        Thanks. My flickr account is http://www.flickr.com/photos/phil-jackson/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/phil-jackson/ but the more recent photos are of my son so you might want to page a couple of times.
        pavel_lishin 14y ago
        You ought to consider making a set or collection for wallpaper-able images. Some of these are great.
        BrainScraps 14y ago
        And maybe sell them with Gumroad.com?
cryptolect 14y ago
Ok, I've just tried my 12.04 / Unity laptop with my 22" monitor. The thing is, I have my laptop on the left, and 22" on the right. So I want to set the Unity launcher to the right hand side of my main screen, the 22" display, so that it doesn't get in the way of scrolling to the laptop's screen. Sounds simple right? Switching the launcher from left to right? Wrong. http://askubuntu.com/questions/123552/unity-launcher-on-right-side http://askubuntu.com/questions/123552/unity-launcher-on-righ... In short, I'm advised to switch to a whole different desktop manager for that simple functionality. What a crock of shit. I still like it for laptops, but this inflexibility ruins it for multi-displays. BRB, installing another desktop manager... A few more links on the subject: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/740391 https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/740391 http://askubuntu.com/questions/33605/can-i-move-the-unity-launcher http://askubuntu.com/questions/33605/can-i-move-the-unity-la... https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/668415/comments/2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/668415/comments/2
- revorad 14y ago
  What machine (and config) are you using?
  - cryptolect 14y ago
    Lenovo X220. Standard Ubuntu 12.04 with Unity. Laptop display configured for left, 22" configured for right. Because I have launcher configured for auto-hide, every time that I scroll across to the left to reach the laptop display, the launcher gets in the way, hence I want it on the right. I've read some of the other comments below and I've decided to try gnome-classic instead. It's a pity, because I really wanted to fall back in love with Ubuntu. I can't believe they didn't make it configurable to switch which side a bloody launcher is on. Sure, have your defaults, but make them configurable.
    - akavlie 14y ago
      I'm curious: how long have you been running Ubuntu on your X220? And how stable has it been? I was using Ubuntu on an X220 as my development machine for a while, with Ubuntu 11.04. It was extremely unstable -- the machine would freeze frequently when unplugging the DisplayPort cable, or even right in the middle of working. That along with a host of small bugs and annoyances (invisible desktop space on the smaller display in dual-display mode -- a longstanding issue in X apparently) eventually drove me back to using a Mac.
tero 14y ago
Xubuntu seems to be out now: http://torrent.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/precise/release/desktop/xubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent http://torrent.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/precise/release/d... I've been teaching the beta for a while now, I like it. Ubuntu 12.04 LTS comes with new vagrant, puppet and arduino 1.0. And with Xubuntu, you can use a traditional desktop. Some of my experiences teaching with the beta http://terokarvinen.com/2012/xubuntu-12-04-lts-on-vappu http://terokarvinen.com/2012/xubuntu-12-04-lts-on-vappu
- glesica 14y ago
  Yes! I've been using Xubuntu 12.04 for a few weeks now (beta) and it has converted me back from Debian/Mint. If you don't love Unity, give Xubuntu 12.04 a try before you mess around trying to hack a different DE on Ubuntu. In the past, Xubuntu felt kind of awkward, at least to me. It felt as though XFCE was sort of mashed on top of Ubuntu, with too much Ubuntu showing through the cracks. But 12.04 feels like 100% its own product.
- bad_user 14y ago
  As a tip for using Xubuntu, if you want fast launching of apps and other keyboard-driven shortcuts (e.g. search), try Gnome Do.
nextparadigms 14y ago
If Canonical is reading this, please put up a torrent link on the main page with both versions. Obviously your servers can't handle the load right now.
- deleted 14y ago
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- nimeshneema 14y ago
  You can easily reach to this point http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads Find the torrent links here
  - qznc 14y ago
    Is there something torrent-comparable for "apt-get upgrade"?
    - amalag 14y ago
      They should work on apt-diffs first which Redhat already does. The torrent idea may not be practical because your machine would have to be running the torrentable-apt-get to act as a peer. I doubt many people would want to leave that running and the short 10 second connections would not be enough to sustain the swarm.
    - sciurus 14y ago
      A quick search find an number of efforts. http://debtorrent.alioth.debian.org/ http://debtorrent.alioth.debian.org/ http://www.camrdale.org/apt-p2p/ http://www.camrdale.org/apt-p2p/ http://sianka.free.fr/ http://sianka.free.fr/
    - apendleton 14y ago
      You can also torrent the CD and create a sources.list entry to use the CD as a source, which will let you upgrade most packages (though obviously only packages that are on the CD). You can even loopback-mount the ISO, so you don't need to actually burn it.
gitarr 14y ago
I have been at a clients location with my Ubuntu 12.04 laptop today. The "IT guy" there and all the other (non IT) office staff asked me what this is and how they could get it. I had to do a full 15 minutes of explanations about Ubuntu. You cannot imagine the looks after I told them it is free.
- Florin_Andrei 14y ago
  That would make sense in 1995.
- jiggy2011 14y ago
  Did you give them the whole "4 freedoms" talk? Seems surprising that the IT guy didn't know about it though, can't be many people in the IT world (even dyed in the wool Windows guys) that haven't heard of Ubuntu.
  - ajdecon 14y ago
    Honestly, you'd be surprised. The IT world includes a lot of people who train up from help desk or similar positions, and spend their time very focused on the specific class of problems they're dealing with. Not surprised at all that someone described as the "IT Guy" might be a small company's only tech, trained up from a non-IT position and with no experience at all outside their tiny ecosystem.
    - noahc 14y ago
      This is pretty common. In many cases they are strictly the hands and eyes of the technician. I know a large company 300+ where their IT guy was there only to call someone who knew more. I'm also familiar with a situation at many smaller banks where their IT person is the youngest of the VPs. Of course they use external IT services and audits, but for day to day IT problems you go to the VP of whatever first.
      - niels_olson 14y ago
        I recently bought a computer from a computer reseller (great way to go, IMHO) who had never heard of Ubuntu. He had tried to install Red Hat once back in the day, but that was about it.
iamgopal 14y ago
will it work on iMac ? ( last time, It didn't oob. )
octopus 14y ago
Finally with Ubuntu 12.04 we have a smooth Unity experience. I've used the 12.04 since beta and it just works.
- mise 14y ago
  Yup, this thread is interesting. An Ubuntu release, and I haven't read many complaints about Unity thus far down the page. They lost me to Mint in their last couple of releases.
  - scott_w 14y ago
    It's possible that you've just explained it: The people for who it became such a problem have already migrated away. I don't have any numbers for that, but even if it's a small shift, then it could be that most people weren't too fussed anyway.
    - octopus 14y ago
      We as humans and programmers are creatures of habit, Unity by being a relatively new technology will break some habits in our work ritual. Give it a few years and nobody will complain about this.
      - coffeeaddicted 14y ago
        Also workarounds are found and created over time for stuff that is broken or annoying.
      - Peaker 14y ago
        I don't think Unity is simply different. At least as of 11.10, it was different and objectively worse.
        mise 14y ago
        So the question is, has 12.04 made a leap in the right direction, enough for it to be at least as good?
xxiao 14y ago
can't wait to upgrade, one problem i had with 10.04 is that redmine is no longer working reliably, and hopefully 12.04 fixed that.
mmcnickle 14y ago
After building a new machine for work this month, I was looking for a new distro to install due to the hassle I had with unity before (11.04 with 2 monitors -- it wouldn't even place windows on the second screen). Out of loyality (ubuntu user since 5.04) I gave the 12.04 beta a go and was genuinely pleasantly surprised with unity. I've opted to keep 12.04. The multiple monitors works well for me (though not an exotic set up 2x23" matched monitors, Nvidia GFX).
scribblemacher 14y ago
Has anyone tried using this on a netbook? My wife is interested in trying Linux, and I was thinking Ubuntu (or Lubuntu) might be a good choice for her. Speed is an issue for her and one of the reasons she's not satisfied with Windows. I'd introduce her to Gentoo, but I don't think she'd appreciate the joy of GNU make.
- dripton 14y ago
  My netbook is running Lubuntu 11.10. It was previously running Ubuntu 10.x Netbook Edition and Ubuntu 10.04. They work. (I like Gentoo too, but I don't want to do much compiling on a netbook.) Most GUI programs aren't designed to use in 1024x600. For example, it's hard to actually read email in Thunderbird because there isn't much room for text after subtracting pixels for window decorations, menu bar, toolbar, header bar, and status bar. I think a netbook would benefit from a tiling window manager, but I haven't got around to installing one yet.
- billsix 14y ago
  I am currently running it on my Toshiba NB 305 net book. I've been pleased with the performance overall, but on the few occasions where I needed more power, I switched desktop environments to lxde and performance was boosted.
- Random_Person 14y ago
  I ran 11.04 on a Dell Mini 9 for a while. Worked great. I just had to adjust icon and panel sizes to make up for the small screen.
- SkyMarshal 14y ago
  Works beautifully on my Asus EeePC 1000HE. At the login screen it should default to Unity 2D, but check to make sure before logging in.
Khloroform187 14y ago
This is the last version I will give a chance to Unity... I hope it reaches a professional level this time.
portmanteaufu 14y ago
Is there a reason that Canonical doesn't make upgrading via torrent more front-and-center? It seems like on huge release days like today they'd want the swarm to lend itself a hand.
- jiggy2011 14y ago
  I guess probably to simplify things, the less links to "get" the product the better, especially if they are going after less savvy users who may also believe that bittorrent is illegal or shady in some way.
  - area51mafia 14y ago
    They could just build it into do-release-upgrade and use bittorrent behind the scenes, then nobody would really be the wiser.
ryanherman 14y ago
Finally! Hope they fix network problems with VMWARE!
snowwindwaves 14y ago
My old Lenovo r51 is still on hardy heron 8.04. I used to read the release notes for Ubuntu to see if I could upgrade hassle free. There was a new Linux intel video driver which was a step back for a while: poor video play back and no compiz. Maybe it is time to get that ssd and upgrade os!
- Danieru 14y ago
  I did the same thing for my desktop. Turns out the SSD was faulty but 12.04 is great! Maybe only upgrade one thing at a time.
horsehead 14y ago
I'm really hoping 12.04 is good. I upgraded to 11.04 on my laptop some time ago and detested it. Went back to 10.04 after that. I'm curious about that new search bar thing they're supposed to be implementing. And isn't Shuttleworth coming out with a tablet Ubuntu? I thought that was going to be this release, but i dont see it mentioned ...
tomrod 14y ago
Bummer. My install failed.
Osiris 14y ago
I just spent over an hour last night upgrading one of my laptops to 11.10 because 12.04 was still beta. I guess I should have just waited one more day.
- mauriciob 14y ago
  I installed and configured 11.10 from scratch last night. Now I'm going to do it all over (no upgrade) just out of spite.
- fl3tch 14y ago
  If you were coming from 11.04, you'd have to upgrade to 11.10 anyway, since you can only upgrade from one release directly to the next one, or one LTS to the next. That's why I suspect you were on 11.04 and not 10.04 (it's not possible to upgrade directly from 10.04 or 10.10 to 11.10). The alternative would have been a clean reinstall. So basically you did the right thing.
ehutch79 14y ago
major pains: workplace switching is not what was listed on the keyboard shortcuts screen. virtualenv would not install via apt-get. so back to osx for me.
- fl3tch 14y ago
  What? Ctrl + Alt + cursor key works exactly as described. Also, sudo apt-get install python-virtualenv works like a charm. Maybe you tried while their repos were being slammed on release day. Perhaps you should give it more than a 15 second effort. :)
omnisaurus 14y ago
this. is. awesome.
agumonkey 14y ago
Booted the .iso cold from a usb key, desktop came up way faster than expected. For non old computer, it might be a very good consumer OS. : fast on C2D 1.6G, 50% of the 4G of ram were used quickly.
- konstruktor 14y ago
  http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
  - agumonkey 14y ago
    still, kubuntu 12.04b2 is around 400Mb. I understand cache policy makes comparisons dumb, but I sleep better when my computer has less to manage. That said since it boots as a live cd .. a lot might just be the root fs. selfacepalm
    - sciurus 14y ago
      If needed, you can make Kubuntu use even less by installing kubuntu-low-fat-settings
      - agumonkey 14y ago
        Thanks, since last kde update were performing so fast I forgot about this :)
scribu 14y ago
To set up my optimal configuration, I have a bash script that I run right after installing Ubuntu. Based on the fact that I was able to remove lines and not add new ones to this script, I'd say this release is pretty good. Gripe: Ubuntu One still takes ages to sync up. Praise: Sticky edges for multiple monitors; they're really handy when scrolling or otherwise doing something near the edge between the screens (and can be turned off if you don't like them).
codexon 14y ago
Is it safe to use this on servers yet?
- rbanffy 14y ago
  I've been playing with it on EC2 and it just works.
  - checkers 14y ago
    Visit this link to learn more about Ubuntu 12.04 LTS! http://techiest.blogspot.com/ http://techiest.blogspot.com/.
  - codexon 14y ago
    I just upgraded from 10.04 and it stopped my 32 bit processes from starting. The ia32-libs package somehow uninstalled itself. When I tried to reinstall it, it installed 300 mb worth of random libs instead of the usual 30.
    - rbanffy 14y ago
      I'm not sure upgrading servers is the best pattern to use when running on cloud platforms. It's really easy to just launch a new instance and redeploy your software (and make that process as automated as possible)
lhnn 14y ago
If you despise Unity, switch to Xubuntu. A minimal amount of customization allows it to feel just like Gnome 2.
- vibrunazo 14y ago
  Can you easily set it to quickly search for apps using Super and change apps using Super + number hotkeys? Or something similar? I'm not really a fan of unity, but I cannot live without those 2 features anymore :S
  - keithpeter 14y ago
    Search for apps: try dmenu (bit fugly looking but very fast). Just use the XFCE keybinding config to set your preferred binding See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1746773 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1746773 As for Super + number: you might have to hard wire those as separate keybindings Synapse and similar launchers run under XCFE
  - lhnn 14y ago
    http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/qh0q7/xubuntu_1204_the_salvation_from_unity_here_are/ http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/qh0q7/xubuntu_1204_th... You don't need Kupfer, since a application quick launcher is in Xubuntu. Kupfer does launch locations as well as applications, though. You can edit the shortcuts in Xubuntu. Their default "appfinder" shortcut is Win+R; I bound it to Win+Space.
    - paolopatron 14y ago
      http://techiest.blogspot.com/ http://techiest.blogspot.com/
- drivebyacct2 14y ago
  Gnome3 ships with a mode that looks and acts basically identically to gnome2/gnome-panel. I don't understand at all the desire to use gnome-panel, but it's all right there out of box. I groan every time I hear people mention Cinnamon, Mint and Xubuntu because they don't like Gnome-Shell.
gary4gar 14y ago
installed it but disappointed as my wireless doesn't work. Thought it did work on 10.10 but NOT on 12.04. Poor Quality release!
- keithpeter 14y ago
  Post details of wifi &c on ubuntuforums. The testing crew will be out in force on the forums with their workrounds/configuration hacks.
- rodolphoarruda 14y ago
  same here. my touchpad and wireless are both gone...
jeffnappi 14y ago
Been waiting for this! Testing and moving our 50+ Ubuntu 10.04 fat client desktops to 12.04 as soon as I can.
- keithpeter 14y ago
  If 12.04 is like other LTS releases, it gets stable after 12.04.1 is out, around June. See my other post on this thread about 10.04 -> 12.04 upgrades. Are the users of your 50+ desktops 'end user' or technical?
keithpeter 14y ago
I'd like to know how the 10.04 -> 12.04 upgrade goes in places that use the Long Term Support (LTS) Ubuntu releases as end user machines. The change in UI is quite radical if you have not worked thru' 11.04 and 11.10 6 monthly releases. It struck me that there may be people here who have access/work in organisations with large deployments. I'd be interested in knowing about the training issues that arose and what action was taken, and how people like the new interface. Sort of a high volume test of Canonical's user testing driven design. I imagine most of the large volume upgrades will be taking place after 12.04.1 is released sometime June. I've contributed a poster for the coffee area... http://spreadubuntu.org/en/material/brochure/1204-poster http://spreadubuntu.org/en/material/brochure/1204-poster
XERQ 14y ago
We built and added Ubuntu 12.04 to our provisioning system for cloud servers at SSD Nodes (http://www.ssdnodes.com http://www.ssdnodes.com). It boots very quickly on our hypervisors at just 5-10 seconds. /plug
- nl 14y ago
  Interesting. I'm pretty sure your claim about the 45,000 IOPs being the most of any SATA SSDs is no longer true. The (consumer grade) Intel 520 SSDs claim 80,000 random write IOPs, and I think I remember seeing the cheaper SATA SSDs on the Dell R720s doing 100K+ (obviously the SAS SSDs do more as do FusionIOs and PCI based express flash) But to bring it back to Ubuntu - do you use the Ubuntu OpenStack distribution or what?
  - XERQ 14y ago
    You're probably right, it was actually Micron's claim that we used (end of first paragraph: http://www.micron.com/products/solid-state-storage/enterprise-sata-ssd/p300-enterprise-sata-ssd http://www.micron.com/products/solid-state-storage/enterpris...). They're still ridiculously fast. Once we can justify the expense, I would love to get Fusion-IO's or the Micron P320h's on our platform. Regarding Ubuntu, we're just using the vanilla Ubuntu 12.04 server distribution for our image templates. Of course, if people wanted OpenStack we would support it and possibly create another template for easy provisioning.
padwan 14y ago
Y U NO NAME IT PENGUIN???
nimeshneema 14y ago
The links for DVD images (which include language-packs as well)can be found here http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04/release/ http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04/release/
read_wharf 14y ago
Ubuntu is more than Unity. If you don't like or have trouble with Unity, try one of the other Ubuntu variants. I love lubuntu (lxde-based), it's just windows and a panel. Anything that gets between my windows and panel (like Unity) gets thrown over the side without even a wave goodbye. Lubuntu is what xubuntu once aspired to, lightweight and simple. Here are all the ubuntu variants: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/ http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/ What is Ubuntu? It's the "easy" Linux distro built on a highly curated version of the debian repository and their apt package system. Mainstream Ubuntu also has Unity. It has a large user base, and a large developer community. It's a nice place to be. When Unity first hit my laptop, I went running to Mint, only to discover that they've made a search deal. I then looked at other debian-based distros, but I missed ubuntu's curated repository. While flirting with other debians, I discovered lxde, and then lubuntu. I'm there, for now.

411 points by cobychapple 14y ago

I have an exopc slate that I'm trying to use with Linux, and have had no luck for the last year. 12.04 doesn't make it better - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/utouch/+bug/801988 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/utouch/+bug/801988 has all the details (for the W500, but it's the same bug). Touching the screen with two fingers causes X to blow up. Touching with one finger at the wrong place causes X selection to lock-up for a few minutes. I'm almost tempted to go to Windows 7... I hope it gets fixed soon. Meego 1.2 is able to use the touchscreen without multitouch (but is otherwise unusable as a distribution). Does anyone have good experience with any ubuntu distribution on an eGalax / DWAV capacitive multitouch screen?

loboman 14y ago

I upgraded a few days ago it worked fine for me. I can't stand Unity yet however, so I'm still using Gnome.

cristiantincu 14y ago

Please excuse my ignorance, but what exactly does “final beta” mean?

cobychapple 14y ago
I think they're still yet to update the Ubuntu homepage (which still shows "12.04 LTS is in final beta now").
- cristiantincu 14y ago
  This must be it. Thanks.
  - sajithdilshan 14y ago
    They've update it. Check it now.
fingerprinter 14y ago
Homepage hasn't been updated yet. I heard they are shooting for a 12.04pm UTC release, so just about nowish :)
- nextparadigms 14y ago
  So is it final or still some beta version? I keep seeing beta 2 everywhere. Also, I'm not too familiar with it, so why does it imply that the 64 bit version only works on AMD CPU's? Is there no 64 bit version for Intel?
  - tresta 14y ago
    amd64 is the name for the architecture that both intel and amd use in their 64-bit desktop processors. It has that name because it was originally amd that released the architecture (and intel used itanium at the time).
    - ticks 14y ago
      They should consider renaming that ISO to something more affordable - I had no idea that it was compatible with Intel CPUs.
      - babarock 14y ago
        It would then confuse the plethora of users who are already familiar with that naming standard. And those are usually mean old bearded Unix old-timers that will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and [condescending] anger. And you do not want to upset these people. Disclaimer I'm a young Unix old-timer, currently growing a beard.
      - slurgfest 14y ago
        everyone* already knows what amd64 means * almost everyone who cares
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guard-of-terra 14y ago

I think the funnier name is Persuading Pedobear.

alexmuller 14y ago

Desktop release notes are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuDesktop https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuD...

jamesgeck0 14y ago
> Hibernate (suspend to disk) has been disabled by default, as it was found to be unreliable, very slow and confusing to have two suspend modes. See bug 812394 for details. If you want to re-enable it, please follow this recipe. As someone who runs Ubuntu on a laptop with a dead battery, that's somewhat unfortunate. > The mail client Evolution may delete folders and their contents as they are renamed or moved around in IMAP (and IMAP+) accounts. It is recommended to copy folders and contents before attempting to move or rename them. (957341) Ouch! I'm surprised a bug that big with a default application wasn't a release blocker.
- mseebach 14y ago
  >> Hibernate (suspend to disk) has been disabled by default, as it was found to be unreliable, very slow and confusing to have two suspend modes. I'd guess from the phrasing that suspend-to-disk can still be enabled, it just isn't by default.
  - jamesgeck0 14y ago
    Yes, it can be, and the next bit says as much. I've pasted in the rest of the bullet point to clarify. I was just disappointed that such a thing has to be enabled manually now.
    - StavrosK 14y ago
      I find STR reliable, stable, fast and good enough that I think hibernation isn't really needed any more...
      - lukeschlather 14y ago

eliben 14y ago

Well, let's see if this one manages to recognize and correctly use all the hardware devices of my Asus laptop. 11.04&11.10 were so bad for it I had to revert to 10.04 which I'm still using.

BrainScraps 14y ago

Been using this for the past month or so - performs well, stable, and I'm still getting used to the HUD. Once I become a master of the HUD, I'll be all set. I did have to do some tweaking to the default workspace management keybindings to be truly happy with the install, however. But if someone is coming in without any preexisting biases, the defaults may suit them just fine. (Hit the Super or "Windows" key for a guide)

duck 14y ago
Just to be clear, you have to hold the Super key to see the keyboard shortcuts. Also, here is a good overview of the Unity shortcuts: http://askubuntu.com/questions/28086/what-are-unitys-keyboard-and-mouse-shortcuts http://askubuntu.com/questions/28086/what-are-unitys-keyboar...
- BrainScraps 14y ago
  Thanks for clarifying that. I disabled that feature a while back, so I forgot it was a hold.

morsch 14y ago

I usually praise the rich ecosystem of custom packages and (PPA) repositories available for Ubuntu. It means you get the stability and security of a distribution-maintained main repository as well as the up-to-date or even cutting edge nature of developer-maintained repositories. Unfortunately, it's a huge pain in the ass when updating. Packages in PPAs are built with a specific distribution in mind, and distribution release x packages aren't supported in release x+1. I think the recommended routine when upgrading is to purge all custom PPAs you are using before you upgrade. And then add them back, if available, after upgrading. Of course, you might not even need the PPA since x+1 might already have the program version you need. Still, upgrading is already a somewhat fragile process, and using lots of PPAs makes it even more prone to breaking. The upside is that it's really easy and safe to clean install over an existing install, particularly if you've got /home on it's own partition.

rbanffy 14y ago
Isn't this handled automatically? I remember the upgrade disabling things like Google and Virtualbox repos.
- morsch 14y ago
  Apparently using ppa-purge is only necessary for certain critical PPAs like x-updates. Still, I think the process is fragile even if it's mostly automatic: who's to say the version you end up with after the upgrade is compatible with the one from a PPA you had been using before the upgrade.
arbrandes 14y ago
I have never had serious breakage after a distribution upgrade due to PPA repositories. Au contraire, the upgrade manager takes care to disable third party repositories automatically. Now, that doesn't mean that things are always flawless. My main complaint is with a) bugs in the release itself, and b) the many reckless changes in paradigm, sometimes flawed by design, and implemented with half-finished software (upstart and Unity come to mind). Because of a), I usually wait a month to upgrade. b) is more serious, and though it sometimes isn't Canonical' s fault (I'm looking at you, Gnome!), it is why I dread dist-upgrades. Finding reasonably functional and bug-free alternatives to the junk they want to shove down my throat sometimes takes months. For instance, I have only just yesterday found a decent desktop to replace Gnome2 (Mint's Cinnamon), after being homeless since the release of 11.04. Still, I wouldn't swap Ubuntu for any other distro (not even Mint, which is just another _buntu, so why bother)! The PPA system is brilliant. The community is huge, so even if bugs aren't fixed, workarounds and patches abound. And last but not least, it's the only distro I can even consider doing a dist-upgrade with the hopes of having a working system after it's done.

krat0sprakhar 14y ago

Whats the easiest way to upgrade to 12.04 LTS from 11.10? Thanks a lot!

seclorum 14y ago
Boot from the disk and tell it to upgrade your 11.10 installation, saving your /home folder and so on. I did exactly this on two workstations and found it works quite well ..
- levesque 14y ago
  Is there any reason why you choose to boot from a disk? Normally you can upgrade from within your own installation without problems.
  - vibrunazo 14y ago
    To me, it's good to have a disk with the last version of ubuntu in case I need it. So if I download the disk and boot from it, I'll only download it once, versus downloading the iso + downloading the upgrade. Also, the upgrade to a new version famously have many problems. I just tried it and it crashed in the middle :S
  - seclorum 14y ago
    I just boot from disk so I can get the upgrade done as quickly as possible. This way, my machine does everything it needs to upgrade, without anything else going on. Then when its done, I let it update in the background while I make sure everything went smoothly. In this case, it went very smoothly for me, and was worth the hassle. I upgraded from Ubuntu 11.04, which had been rather a bit of a mess actually, in the Unity/Gnome3/fvwm shell department, as in I had them all and had to switch around to get certain things I liked. Unity crashed too often (in 11.04) for me to trust it. That has all changed. I am now running Ubuntu studio, which features fvwm, and nothing else. Gnome only if I truly need it, and Unity .. after the dust settles. So I'm quite comfortable in my upgrade to 12.04, and everything works like it should - full multi-channel digital audio, multi-monitor support with acceleration, and so on.

rufugee 14y ago

I'm one of those weird folk who run three monitors, and even though 12.04 promised better 2+ monitor support through Unity 2D, I still find it lacking. Perhaps it's the way I have it configured, but I use two nvidia cards with xinerama, which means I'm forced to use Unity 2D (no compositing support). Unity 2D just isn't as stable or usable. I really, really hope they put more effort to fixing this in 12.10.

andyl 14y ago
Have you tried Gnome? I also use 2 monitors, and hope that Gnome on 12.04 supports multi-monitors well.
- mdesantis 14y ago
  I use Unity with 2 monitors and it is pretty good; but I didn't try Gnome
  - anthony_barker 14y ago
    I run with Unity in one window and Windows xp in vmware in another 24" without problems. Gnome works too. All you need to ensure is you have decent video card/drivers
- obtino 14y ago
  I'm using 3 monitors in 12.04 under Unity without a hitch! Then again, I'm using 1 ATI video card (with 3 outputs) and the proprietary ATI driver. Unity has great support for multiple-monitors. Many, if not most, of the problems are due to: X, the video card drivers and Xinerama.
  - Florin_Andrei 14y ago
    Huh. Then I'll give it a try. I always disabled Unity until now, precisely for the reason that it didn't work for me on this laptop that is often docked with 2 monitors.
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cryptolect 14y ago

As someone who went to Fedora 16 after the initial Unity debacle, I've been using 12.04 on my laptops, and I must say, it's generally been a pleasant experience. I still haven't tried with multi-screens, so I'm not sure how well it works there. After a few tweaks, I'm rather chuffed with 12.04: - Change icons down to 32x32 - Auto-hide drawer - Change theme to Radiance - Set terminal font to 10 and colors to white on black / Linux colors. I recommend people give it a second chance, particularly on laptops.

krupan 14y ago
Does focus-follows-mouse work correctly?
luser001 14y ago
OT: There was an "Ellen" clip or something that was posted somewhere about UK-vs-US slangs words and iirc 'chuff' was there (the USAian didn't know what it was). I had to look up the definition to understand 100% whether you were pleased or displeased. :) PSA: chuff == Brit slang for to please or delight (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/chuff http://www.thefreedictionary.com/chuff)

akulbe 14y ago

I'm only seeing beta2 available for download. I've tried several alternative links, like mirrors.kernel.org... and all I can find anywhere is beta2, as the latest version available. #impatient :)

nimeshneema 14y ago
Go to this link. http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ This is the final release
- akulbe 14y ago
  Excellent. Thanks, man. :)

FelixH 14y ago

As much as Ubuntu has matured over the years, I am pretty disappointed how many things are broken out of the box still. Being behind a proxy is a major pain as ever, as well as getting ATI graphics drivers to work properly.

rbanffy 14y ago
> ATI graphics drivers to work properly. You can't exactly say you haven't been warned.
- FelixH 14y ago
  the ATI card wasn't up to me and it is really the proxy support that is the most disappointing. There are bug reports dating several years back that still haven't been addressed

wiradikusuma 14y ago

i'm thinking of triple-booting my 2009 MBP with Ubuntu (already Bootcamped with Win7). anyone has experience with Ubuntu on MBPs? any problem with hardware? i need a lightweight-but-nice-looking OS for day-to-day Java development (i use IntelliJ), Lion is taxing too much.

argarg 14y ago
Running ubuntu as my main OS on my 2011 MBP for a while. Everything works and is stable except for the wireless driver, which you have to compile yourself and only supports wireless G. Things may have changed in the last months though. I don't know about the 2009 MBP hardware.
kolleykibber 14y ago
Triple booting on Santa Rosa 2007 MBP. Upgraded to Lion from Snow Leopard and had many problems, lack of recovery partition, Spotlight failure etc. Need to reformat and reinstall all to get spotlight working again. Ubuntu is now my main OS.
Lewisham 14y ago
I had severe difficulty getting Ubuntu to appear as a bootable partition when installed from a USB stick. Don't install from stick, install from a disc. Whatever it did with EFI didn't work right, there were partitions on my hard drive that Mac OS X wouldn't touch, it was a mess. I had to repartition and reformat my HD and restore from Time Machine.
h2s 14y ago
I've been running 11.04 on my 2010 MBP for a while. It drains the battery pretty quickly. I had to mess around with the trackpad settings a bit to get that into a usable state, and I had to disable tap-to-click completely because it completely sucks at palm rejection. The startup screen is completely screwy and it often fails to turn the machine off when shutting down.
brendoncrawford 14y ago
I recommend using rEFIt: http://refit.sourceforge.net/ http://refit.sourceforge.net/ It can help with some of the multi-boot problems people tend to have with Ubuntu on MBP.

mdesantis 14y ago

I'm using it from the beta1, and I must say that it is awesome; apart from those notifications zero-interaction zero-configuration, I hate them!!!

freehunter 14y ago
The notifications in the newer Ubuntu really do irritate me. In releases of old (if my memory is correct), notifications could be clicked to bring up the program that was notifying you. Now they just go semi-transparent and can't be clicked, so I have to open the program manually. Not a huge deal, but it could have a better UX by being interactive (I'd love to be able to reply to a chat message within the notification window, ala Digsby).
- beagle3 14y ago
  > Now they just go semi-transparent and can't be clicked I'm running 10.10 and it's the same as you describe. Which I think is the right way to do it, for anything that pops up unexpectedly. Thunderbird (and others) doe notifications the way you describe, but I don't think ubuntu (or any other distribution, or even osx for that matter) ever let you click directly on the system-wide notifications.
  - desas 14y ago
    In ubuntu they used to work like that until 10.04. In other distributions it's still common IIRC. Ubuntu swapped out the common notification daemon for one called notify-osd.

sajithdilshan 14y ago

I've been using Ubuntu 12.04 for the past month and must say it is pretty stable for a beta version and I'm so glad that final version is out. Hoping to stick with it until Ubuntu 14.04

pimentel 14y ago

I really can't stand Unity. Does this work OK with Cinnamon, for example?

reactor 14y ago
It has really come a long way, you may try it now. I was also in the league of people couldn't stand for Unity when it launched, but now I'm using it for couple of weeks now, its been very pleasant.
- kijin 14y ago
  There are two kinds of people who hated Unity when it first came out. The first kind of people were mostly unhappy about Unity's bugginess and lack of functionality. These folks should be OK by now. The second kind of people just don't like the UI paradigm that Unity represents. Nothing they can ever do will make them happy with Unity. After all, that's why Ubuntu has alternative DEs! I use Xubuntu on my netbook and I'm lovin' it. (Unity 3D is too much for that little bugger.)
  - Random_Person 14y ago
    I switched to Xubuntu as well when Unity hit for all of my machines. I think I'm going to give Unity a shot this time on at least one of my laptops and see what happens. It has occurred to me that most things I want to use require GDK anyways, so XFCE isn't all that light weight any more.
    - kijin 14y ago
      You're right, XFCE isn't all that "lightweight" when you add in all the things you need to make it usable. XFCE still feels faster than GNOME or KDE on old hardware, probably because it doesn't use any semi-transparent 3D gimmicks. It is also shaping up to be a very good option for those who prefer the old GNOME look. The panel and most other UI elements are even more configurable than I remember GNOME 2 to have been. I'll be sticking with Xubuntu 12.04 for quite some time.

nilarimogard 14y ago

Some screenshots and videos here: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/04/ubuntu-1204-lts-released-see-whats-new.html http://www.webupd8.org/2012/04/ubuntu-1204-lts-released-see-...

ryanherman 14y ago
Awesome link thank you!

Garbage 14y ago

For the guys who are complaining about Unity, you can give a try to gnome-panel sudo apt-get install gnome-panel

jrgifford 14y ago
Yes, and there is a full set of instructions on how to get it looking just like gnome2.x http://askubuntu.com/q/58172/6005 http://askubuntu.com/q/58172/6005
- runeks 14y ago
  Nice! Thanks for posting. I would totally switch to Unity if it were more customizable (a lá the GNOME's panels).
  - jrgifford 14y ago
    You're welcome! It will be customizable, but not to the extent of the GNOME panels. Part of the other problem is that it's still new, so developers don't want to build a lot of stuff with it.

viraptor 14y ago

I installed beta 2 and run into issues with disk power management. By default it had a very small timeout to spin down. Fixed manually with hdparm -S, but I didn't see any updates that correct it. If you notice your drive clicking all the time, there's your fix...

freehunter 14y ago
I had this problem when watching movies from the disk, oddly enough. It kept shutting down the hard drive when it was reading from the memory buffer, then when the buffer ran out it needed to pause while the drive spun back up. I haven't tried the final to see if it's fixed.

revorad 14y ago

If you have any issues (in addition to the ones already mentioned by others here), please let me know. If you're interested in buying Thinkpads with Linux pre-installed and fully tested, please sign up here - http://giniji.com/ubuntu_laptops.html http://giniji.com/ubuntu_laptops.html </plug>

freehunter 14y ago
This isn't necessarily directed at you (I make the same complaint to System76), but I really wish I could go on Amazon and buy a Linux laptop. I like the security of Amazon payments, the customer service, and I am a Prime subscriber so I like the free two-day shipping.
- revorad 14y ago
  I totally understand. It's frickin' 2012 and I can't stand the fact that we can't do that. We want to sell via as many channels as possible, including Amazon. This is a tiny first step towards making a new computer company. Just need some love from hackers. Btw, we will offer free shipping :-)
  - lucian1900 14y ago
    You could try signing up as an Amazon merchant/seller.
    - revorad 14y ago
      We are signed up. However, Amazon takes a significant cut and we want to keep our prices low.
      - jmilloy 14y ago
        It seems to me that Amazon is taking a cut in order offer things such as security, customer service, 2 day shipping, etc. If I want to pay a extra for these services for a laptop from your company, why wouldn't you let me? Can you offer the lower price point on your and a higher price on amazon?

floydprice 14y ago

Been using the Beta releases for a while now and I'm hooked, Unity has matured in to a really well thought out and compelling desktop environment. My absolute favorite feature is hitting the alt key (from any app) and being about to navigate the menus and options e.g. in FireFox Alt > Type "Edit" and i see all the options available - Very Slick and means i can use the keyboard to effectively navigate all apps now, Previous versions of unity didn't really lend themselves to this.

oconnore 14y ago

As someone who has been using 12.04 + Unity on my primary work computer since Alpha with minimal issues, this is awesome! It works great! Download it!

derrida 14y ago
Yeah, this was the first beta I've tried that didn't have one major hiccup. Maybe because it's the LTS edition?

hdeshev 14y ago

Released today? Really? On the Chernobyl disaster anniversary - April 26? I don't believe it's a coincidence!

sciurus 14y ago

Looks like ubuntu.com can't handle the load. I'm getting errors from squid when I try to visit http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/whats-new http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/whats-new

babarock 14y ago

Has anyone tried to dist-upgrade? Does it work well? Around the time I was a Ubuntu user (around Hardy 8.04), dist-upgrade would usually break your box and was discouraged by Canonical themselves. If I recall correctly.

graywh 14y ago
dist-upgrade won't upgrade you to the next release, just updates your current release. You want do-release-upgrade. And I've never had a problem with dist-upgrade. http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com/2010/02/dist-upgrade-misnomer-confusion.html http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com/2010/02/dist-upgra...
- babarock 14y ago
  True, mea culpa. I meant to talk about do-release-upgrade. It's been so long I'm a little confused with the terminology :) Seamless release upgrade is crucial if you want to have a high frequency (6 month) release cycle. Glad to see they made progress with this.
jsight 14y ago
sudo do-release-upgrade It's generally better than dist-upgrade anyway.
CaioAlonso 14y ago
I heard they did a lot of testing with dist-upgrades from 11.10, 11.04 and even 10.10. But doing a backup wouldn't hurt, right?
tebeka 14y ago
I did an upgrade from 11.10 to the 12.04 beta. Seems to work fine.
- SkyMarshal 14y ago
  Same, just a few days ago. Worked perfectly, no hitches, and 12.04 (even the beta) is noticeably superior to 11.10. My laptop battery life jumped from 4.5hrs to 7, kernel panics with too many Chrome tabs open and/or Flash playing are a thing of the past, etc. One of the best upgrades I've ever done.

philjackson 14y ago

I'm here to collect my OSS karma as I contributed a couple of the wallpapers to this one.

kijin 14y ago
Which ones? Links please.
- philjackson 14y ago
  Smaller copies: http://omgubuntu.co.uk.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/speaker_weave_by_phil_jackson.jpg http://omgubuntu.co.uk.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2... http://omgubuntu.co.uk.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/twilight_frost_by_phil_jackson.jpg http://omgubuntu.co.uk.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2...
  - windsurfer 14y ago
    These are beautiful. Have you made more?
    - philjackson 14y ago
      Thanks. My flickr account is http://www.flickr.com/photos/phil-jackson/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/phil-jackson/ but the more recent photos are of my son so you might want to page a couple of times.
      - pavel_lishin 14y ago
        You ought to consider making a set or collection for wallpaper-able images. Some of these are great.
        BrainScraps 14y ago
        And maybe sell them with Gumroad.com?

cryptolect 14y ago

Ok, I've just tried my 12.04 / Unity laptop with my 22" monitor. The thing is, I have my laptop on the left, and 22" on the right. So I want to set the Unity launcher to the right hand side of my main screen, the 22" display, so that it doesn't get in the way of scrolling to the laptop's screen. Sounds simple right? Switching the launcher from left to right? Wrong. http://askubuntu.com/questions/123552/unity-launcher-on-right-side http://askubuntu.com/questions/123552/unity-launcher-on-righ... In short, I'm advised to switch to a whole different desktop manager for that simple functionality. What a crock of shit. I still like it for laptops, but this inflexibility ruins it for multi-displays. BRB, installing another desktop manager... A few more links on the subject: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/740391 https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/740391 http://askubuntu.com/questions/33605/can-i-move-the-unity-launcher http://askubuntu.com/questions/33605/can-i-move-the-unity-la... https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/668415/comments/2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/668415/comments/2

revorad 14y ago
What machine (and config) are you using?
- cryptolect 14y ago
  Lenovo X220. Standard Ubuntu 12.04 with Unity. Laptop display configured for left, 22" configured for right. Because I have launcher configured for auto-hide, every time that I scroll across to the left to reach the laptop display, the launcher gets in the way, hence I want it on the right. I've read some of the other comments below and I've decided to try gnome-classic instead. It's a pity, because I really wanted to fall back in love with Ubuntu. I can't believe they didn't make it configurable to switch which side a bloody launcher is on. Sure, have your defaults, but make them configurable.
  - akavlie 14y ago
    I'm curious: how long have you been running Ubuntu on your X220? And how stable has it been? I was using Ubuntu on an X220 as my development machine for a while, with Ubuntu 11.04. It was extremely unstable -- the machine would freeze frequently when unplugging the DisplayPort cable, or even right in the middle of working. That along with a host of small bugs and annoyances (invisible desktop space on the smaller display in dual-display mode -- a longstanding issue in X apparently) eventually drove me back to using a Mac.

tero 14y ago

Xubuntu seems to be out now: http://torrent.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/precise/release/desktop/xubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent http://torrent.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/precise/release/d... I've been teaching the beta for a while now, I like it. Ubuntu 12.04 LTS comes with new vagrant, puppet and arduino 1.0. And with Xubuntu, you can use a traditional desktop. Some of my experiences teaching with the beta http://terokarvinen.com/2012/xubuntu-12-04-lts-on-vappu http://terokarvinen.com/2012/xubuntu-12-04-lts-on-vappu

glesica 14y ago
Yes! I've been using Xubuntu 12.04 for a few weeks now (beta) and it has converted me back from Debian/Mint. If you don't love Unity, give Xubuntu 12.04 a try before you mess around trying to hack a different DE on Ubuntu. In the past, Xubuntu felt kind of awkward, at least to me. It felt as though XFCE was sort of mashed on top of Ubuntu, with too much Ubuntu showing through the cracks. But 12.04 feels like 100% its own product.
bad_user 14y ago
As a tip for using Xubuntu, if you want fast launching of apps and other keyboard-driven shortcuts (e.g. search), try Gnome Do.

nextparadigms 14y ago

If Canonical is reading this, please put up a torrent link on the main page with both versions. Obviously your servers can't handle the load right now.

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nimeshneema 14y ago
You can easily reach to this point http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads Find the torrent links here
- qznc 14y ago
  Is there something torrent-comparable for "apt-get upgrade"?
  - amalag 14y ago
    They should work on apt-diffs first which Redhat already does. The torrent idea may not be practical because your machine would have to be running the torrentable-apt-get to act as a peer. I doubt many people would want to leave that running and the short 10 second connections would not be enough to sustain the swarm.
  - sciurus 14y ago
    A quick search find an number of efforts. http://debtorrent.alioth.debian.org/ http://debtorrent.alioth.debian.org/ http://www.camrdale.org/apt-p2p/ http://www.camrdale.org/apt-p2p/ http://sianka.free.fr/ http://sianka.free.fr/
  - apendleton 14y ago
    You can also torrent the CD and create a sources.list entry to use the CD as a source, which will let you upgrade most packages (though obviously only packages that are on the CD). You can even loopback-mount the ISO, so you don't need to actually burn it.

gitarr 14y ago

I have been at a clients location with my Ubuntu 12.04 laptop today. The "IT guy" there and all the other (non IT) office staff asked me what this is and how they could get it. I had to do a full 15 minutes of explanations about Ubuntu. You cannot imagine the looks after I told them it is free.

Florin_Andrei 14y ago
That would make sense in 1995.
jiggy2011 14y ago
Did you give them the whole "4 freedoms" talk? Seems surprising that the IT guy didn't know about it though, can't be many people in the IT world (even dyed in the wool Windows guys) that haven't heard of Ubuntu.
- ajdecon 14y ago
  Honestly, you'd be surprised. The IT world includes a lot of people who train up from help desk or similar positions, and spend their time very focused on the specific class of problems they're dealing with. Not surprised at all that someone described as the "IT Guy" might be a small company's only tech, trained up from a non-IT position and with no experience at all outside their tiny ecosystem.
  - noahc 14y ago
    This is pretty common. In many cases they are strictly the hands and eyes of the technician. I know a large company 300+ where their IT guy was there only to call someone who knew more. I'm also familiar with a situation at many smaller banks where their IT person is the youngest of the VPs. Of course they use external IT services and audits, but for day to day IT problems you go to the VP of whatever first.
    - niels_olson 14y ago
      I recently bought a computer from a computer reseller (great way to go, IMHO) who had never heard of Ubuntu. He had tried to install Red Hat once back in the day, but that was about it.

iamgopal 14y ago

will it work on iMac ? ( last time, It didn't oob. )

octopus 14y ago

Finally with Ubuntu 12.04 we have a smooth Unity experience. I've used the 12.04 since beta and it just works.

mise 14y ago
Yup, this thread is interesting. An Ubuntu release, and I haven't read many complaints about Unity thus far down the page. They lost me to Mint in their last couple of releases.
- scott_w 14y ago
  It's possible that you've just explained it: The people for who it became such a problem have already migrated away. I don't have any numbers for that, but even if it's a small shift, then it could be that most people weren't too fussed anyway.
  - octopus 14y ago
    We as humans and programmers are creatures of habit, Unity by being a relatively new technology will break some habits in our work ritual. Give it a few years and nobody will complain about this.
    - coffeeaddicted 14y ago
      Also workarounds are found and created over time for stuff that is broken or annoying.
    - Peaker 14y ago
      I don't think Unity is simply different. At least as of 11.10, it was different and objectively worse.
      - mise 14y ago
        So the question is, has 12.04 made a leap in the right direction, enough for it to be at least as good?

xxiao 14y ago

can't wait to upgrade, one problem i had with 10.04 is that redmine is no longer working reliably, and hopefully 12.04 fixed that.

mmcnickle 14y ago

After building a new machine for work this month, I was looking for a new distro to install due to the hassle I had with unity before (11.04 with 2 monitors -- it wouldn't even place windows on the second screen). Out of loyality (ubuntu user since 5.04) I gave the 12.04 beta a go and was genuinely pleasantly surprised with unity. I've opted to keep 12.04. The multiple monitors works well for me (though not an exotic set up 2x23" matched monitors, Nvidia GFX).

scribblemacher 14y ago

Has anyone tried using this on a netbook? My wife is interested in trying Linux, and I was thinking Ubuntu (or Lubuntu) might be a good choice for her. Speed is an issue for her and one of the reasons she's not satisfied with Windows. I'd introduce her to Gentoo, but I don't think she'd appreciate the joy of GNU make.

dripton 14y ago
My netbook is running Lubuntu 11.10. It was previously running Ubuntu 10.x Netbook Edition and Ubuntu 10.04. They work. (I like Gentoo too, but I don't want to do much compiling on a netbook.) Most GUI programs aren't designed to use in 1024x600. For example, it's hard to actually read email in Thunderbird because there isn't much room for text after subtracting pixels for window decorations, menu bar, toolbar, header bar, and status bar. I think a netbook would benefit from a tiling window manager, but I haven't got around to installing one yet.
billsix 14y ago
I am currently running it on my Toshiba NB 305 net book. I've been pleased with the performance overall, but on the few occasions where I needed more power, I switched desktop environments to lxde and performance was boosted.
Random_Person 14y ago
I ran 11.04 on a Dell Mini 9 for a while. Worked great. I just had to adjust icon and panel sizes to make up for the small screen.
SkyMarshal 14y ago
Works beautifully on my Asus EeePC 1000HE. At the login screen it should default to Unity 2D, but check to make sure before logging in.

Khloroform187 14y ago

This is the last version I will give a chance to Unity... I hope it reaches a professional level this time.

portmanteaufu 14y ago

Is there a reason that Canonical doesn't make upgrading via torrent more front-and-center? It seems like on huge release days like today they'd want the swarm to lend itself a hand.

jiggy2011 14y ago
I guess probably to simplify things, the less links to "get" the product the better, especially if they are going after less savvy users who may also believe that bittorrent is illegal or shady in some way.
- area51mafia 14y ago
  They could just build it into do-release-upgrade and use bittorrent behind the scenes, then nobody would really be the wiser.

ryanherman 14y ago

Finally! Hope they fix network problems with VMWARE!

snowwindwaves 14y ago

My old Lenovo r51 is still on hardy heron 8.04. I used to read the release notes for Ubuntu to see if I could upgrade hassle free. There was a new Linux intel video driver which was a step back for a while: poor video play back and no compiz. Maybe it is time to get that ssd and upgrade os!

Danieru 14y ago
I did the same thing for my desktop. Turns out the SSD was faulty but 12.04 is great! Maybe only upgrade one thing at a time.

horsehead 14y ago

I'm really hoping 12.04 is good. I upgraded to 11.04 on my laptop some time ago and detested it. Went back to 10.04 after that. I'm curious about that new search bar thing they're supposed to be implementing. And isn't Shuttleworth coming out with a tablet Ubuntu? I thought that was going to be this release, but i dont see it mentioned ...

tomrod 14y ago

Bummer. My install failed.

Osiris 14y ago

I just spent over an hour last night upgrading one of my laptops to 11.10 because 12.04 was still beta. I guess I should have just waited one more day.

mauriciob 14y ago
I installed and configured 11.10 from scratch last night. Now I'm going to do it all over (no upgrade) just out of spite.
fl3tch 14y ago
If you were coming from 11.04, you'd have to upgrade to 11.10 anyway, since you can only upgrade from one release directly to the next one, or one LTS to the next. That's why I suspect you were on 11.04 and not 10.04 (it's not possible to upgrade directly from 10.04 or 10.10 to 11.10). The alternative would have been a clean reinstall. So basically you did the right thing.

ehutch79 14y ago

major pains: workplace switching is not what was listed on the keyboard shortcuts screen. virtualenv would not install via apt-get. so back to osx for me.

fl3tch 14y ago
What? Ctrl + Alt + cursor key works exactly as described. Also, sudo apt-get install python-virtualenv works like a charm. Maybe you tried while their repos were being slammed on release day. Perhaps you should give it more than a 15 second effort. :)

omnisaurus 14y ago

this. is. awesome.

agumonkey 14y ago

Booted the .iso cold from a usb key, desktop came up way faster than expected. For non old computer, it might be a very good consumer OS. : fast on C2D 1.6G, 50% of the 4G of ram were used quickly.

konstruktor 14y ago
http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
- agumonkey 14y ago
  still, kubuntu 12.04b2 is around 400Mb. I understand cache policy makes comparisons dumb, but I sleep better when my computer has less to manage. That said since it boots as a live cd .. a lot might just be the root fs. selfacepalm
  - sciurus 14y ago
    If needed, you can make Kubuntu use even less by installing kubuntu-low-fat-settings
    - agumonkey 14y ago
      Thanks, since last kde update were performing so fast I forgot about this :)

scribu 14y ago

To set up my optimal configuration, I have a bash script that I run right after installing Ubuntu. Based on the fact that I was able to remove lines and not add new ones to this script, I'd say this release is pretty good. Gripe: Ubuntu One still takes ages to sync up. Praise: Sticky edges for multiple monitors; they're really handy when scrolling or otherwise doing something near the edge between the screens (and can be turned off if you don't like them).

codexon 14y ago

Is it safe to use this on servers yet?

rbanffy 14y ago
I've been playing with it on EC2 and it just works.
- checkers 14y ago
  Visit this link to learn more about Ubuntu 12.04 LTS! http://techiest.blogspot.com/ http://techiest.blogspot.com/.
- codexon 14y ago
  I just upgraded from 10.04 and it stopped my 32 bit processes from starting. The ia32-libs package somehow uninstalled itself. When I tried to reinstall it, it installed 300 mb worth of random libs instead of the usual 30.
  - rbanffy 14y ago
    I'm not sure upgrading servers is the best pattern to use when running on cloud platforms. It's really easy to just launch a new instance and redeploy your software (and make that process as automated as possible)

lhnn 14y ago

If you despise Unity, switch to Xubuntu. A minimal amount of customization allows it to feel just like Gnome 2.

vibrunazo 14y ago
Can you easily set it to quickly search for apps using Super and change apps using Super + number hotkeys? Or something similar? I'm not really a fan of unity, but I cannot live without those 2 features anymore :S
- keithpeter 14y ago
  Search for apps: try dmenu (bit fugly looking but very fast). Just use the XFCE keybinding config to set your preferred binding See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1746773 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1746773 As for Super + number: you might have to hard wire those as separate keybindings Synapse and similar launchers run under XCFE
- lhnn 14y ago
  http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/qh0q7/xubuntu_1204_the_salvation_from_unity_here_are/ http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/qh0q7/xubuntu_1204_th... You don't need Kupfer, since a application quick launcher is in Xubuntu. Kupfer does launch locations as well as applications, though. You can edit the shortcuts in Xubuntu. Their default "appfinder" shortcut is Win+R; I bound it to Win+Space.
  - paolopatron 14y ago
    http://techiest.blogspot.com/ http://techiest.blogspot.com/
drivebyacct2 14y ago
Gnome3 ships with a mode that looks and acts basically identically to gnome2/gnome-panel. I don't understand at all the desire to use gnome-panel, but it's all right there out of box. I groan every time I hear people mention Cinnamon, Mint and Xubuntu because they don't like Gnome-Shell.

gary4gar 14y ago

installed it but disappointed as my wireless doesn't work. Thought it did work on 10.10 but NOT on 12.04. Poor Quality release!

keithpeter 14y ago
Post details of wifi &c on ubuntuforums. The testing crew will be out in force on the forums with their workrounds/configuration hacks.
rodolphoarruda 14y ago
same here. my touchpad and wireless are both gone...

jeffnappi 14y ago

Been waiting for this! Testing and moving our 50+ Ubuntu 10.04 fat client desktops to 12.04 as soon as I can.

keithpeter 14y ago
If 12.04 is like other LTS releases, it gets stable after 12.04.1 is out, around June. See my other post on this thread about 10.04 -> 12.04 upgrades. Are the users of your 50+ desktops 'end user' or technical?

keithpeter 14y ago

I'd like to know how the 10.04 -> 12.04 upgrade goes in places that use the Long Term Support (LTS) Ubuntu releases as end user machines. The change in UI is quite radical if you have not worked thru' 11.04 and 11.10 6 monthly releases. It struck me that there may be people here who have access/work in organisations with large deployments. I'd be interested in knowing about the training issues that arose and what action was taken, and how people like the new interface. Sort of a high volume test of Canonical's user testing driven design. I imagine most of the large volume upgrades will be taking place after 12.04.1 is released sometime June. I've contributed a poster for the coffee area... http://spreadubuntu.org/en/material/brochure/1204-poster http://spreadubuntu.org/en/material/brochure/1204-poster

XERQ 14y ago

We built and added Ubuntu 12.04 to our provisioning system for cloud servers at SSD Nodes (http://www.ssdnodes.com http://www.ssdnodes.com). It boots very quickly on our hypervisors at just 5-10 seconds. /plug

nl 14y ago
Interesting. I'm pretty sure your claim about the 45,000 IOPs being the most of any SATA SSDs is no longer true. The (consumer grade) Intel 520 SSDs claim 80,000 random write IOPs, and I think I remember seeing the cheaper SATA SSDs on the Dell R720s doing 100K+ (obviously the SAS SSDs do more as do FusionIOs and PCI based express flash) But to bring it back to Ubuntu - do you use the Ubuntu OpenStack distribution or what?
- XERQ 14y ago
  You're probably right, it was actually Micron's claim that we used (end of first paragraph: http://www.micron.com/products/solid-state-storage/enterprise-sata-ssd/p300-enterprise-sata-ssd http://www.micron.com/products/solid-state-storage/enterpris...). They're still ridiculously fast. Once we can justify the expense, I would love to get Fusion-IO's or the Micron P320h's on our platform. Regarding Ubuntu, we're just using the vanilla Ubuntu 12.04 server distribution for our image templates. Of course, if people wanted OpenStack we would support it and possibly create another template for easy provisioning.

padwan 14y ago

Y U NO NAME IT PENGUIN???

nimeshneema 14y ago

The links for DVD images (which include language-packs as well)can be found here http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04/release/ http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04/release/

read_wharf 14y ago

Ubuntu is more than Unity. If you don't like or have trouble with Unity, try one of the other Ubuntu variants. I love lubuntu (lxde-based), it's just windows and a panel. Anything that gets between my windows and panel (like Unity) gets thrown over the side without even a wave goodbye. Lubuntu is what xubuntu once aspired to, lightweight and simple. Here are all the ubuntu variants: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/ http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/ What is Ubuntu? It's the "easy" Linux distro built on a highly curated version of the debian repository and their apt package system. Mainstream Ubuntu also has Unity. It has a large user base, and a large developer community. It's a nice place to be. When Unity first hit my laptop, I went running to Mint, only to discover that they've made a search deal. I then looked at other debian-based distros, but I missed ubuntu's curated repository. While flirting with other debians, I discovered lxde, and then lubuntu. I'm there, for now.