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Hobbes OS/2 Archive: As of April 15th, 2024 this site will no longer exist
- zwieback 3y agoGood memories. We used OS/2 for a automated measurement tool and it was rock solid, at the time it was a great choice for true multitasking (pre-Linux and pre-NT). My OS/2 experience got me a job at a company that IBM contracted to build a AppleTalk server component for OS/2 ("Lan Server for Macintosh", https://techmonitor.ai/technology/ibm_adds_macintosh_support_in_os2_lan_server_version_3 https://techmonitor.ai/technology/ibm_adds_macintosh_support...). You kids don't remember this but at that time there were a ton of incompatible LANs so we provided glue between Macs and PC networks. AppleTalk was actually pretty neat.
- fluffycritter 3y agoWow. I ran this archive back in the 90s, when I was a student at NMSU and it was one of my ancillary duties when I worked part-time for the IT department. I wasn't a fan of OS/2 myself but I appreciated how much of a community there was around it and how excited people were to continue to use it. When I inherited it the website was put together with duct tape and paperclips (and Comic Sans), and the files were pretty inconsistently-organized. At one point I spent a few months building a new website and tooling to make it easier to manage and then completely reorganized the archive, and while other students replaced the underlying code over the years (eventually replacing my not-very-great C++-based bespoke-CGI system with a much more robust PHP-based one), my design was largely intact, as was the file structure I'd established. I'm kind of amazed it kept running for this long, but this is a personal end of an era for me. I still hold a lot of nostalgia for it and my time working on it. EDIT: I wrote some more detailed thoughts on my blog. http://beesbuzz.biz/blog/14299-Hobbes-OS-2-Archive-An-end-of-an-era http://beesbuzz.biz/blog/14299-Hobbes-OS-2-Archive-An-end-of...
- dmitrygr 3y agoSomeone should alert archive.org to make sure they have a complete mirror.
- mattl 3y agoI mentioned it to Jason Scott on Bluesky.
- codetrotter 3y ago> Jason Scott on Bluesky Neat! Finally someone to follow on Bluesky. I have an account but wasn’t following anyone. Finally a name on Bluesky that I am interested in following!
- h2odragon 3y agoPity. It was a major resource for a few hobbyists, and professionals sadly stuck with poor choices. Props to those who pulled it together and kept it up this long.
- glhaynes 3y agoJust a few months ago I came across some reference to Hobbes and it reminded me of my early-‘90s OS/2 but pre-internet days, when I’d often see references to “Hobbes” but, like “the internet”, I didn’t quite know what it was.
- LorenDB 3y agoI've alerted r/DataHoarder to the situation :) I expect some interested person will create an archive on their personal server like I plan to. https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/192p8jc/the_hobbes_os2_archive_will_disappear_on_april_15/ https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/192p8jc/the_ho...
- brian_herman 3y agoThank you!
- LorenDB 3y agoI'm now httrack'ing the site. If anybody reads this after April 15, I'm probably not going to be around to read your comments, but you can hit me up on Matrix if you need a copy: @lorendb:nheko.im If you're reading this before April 15 and need a copy, get it yourself.
- rsync 3y agoEmail info@rsync.net for a free account to store an offsite/backup copy of this. I will help manage setting up snapshots of it that we can checksum/verify to create a "golden copy". Or whatever - just let us know if we can be of assistance.
- LorenDB 3y agoThank you! I will send you an email. I've got a personal server, and I would publicly serve the backup from it, but it's got an awful connection for serving files (only 20ish Mbps up), so that would be awesome :)
- bane 3y agoIt'd be great to also upload a tar.gz or something to the internet archive as well.
- Lammy 3y agoI tried, but the upload failed because it "looks like spam" according to Archive.
- rilindo 3y agoThis brought back memories when I was an OS/2 User. I miss that desktop.
- squarefoot 3y agoLikewise. The presentation manager was much more advanced than Windows, and aside the infamous single queue "bug", a lot more stable. I never wrote software for OS/2, aside some playing with the C compiler whose name I can't recall now, but I used OS/2 as a better multitasker for DOS instances. At that time I was writing a database software in Clipper that I adapted to work for two shops (books and furniture) and needed to have in both places two DOS machines communicating over NETBIOS, where both would work as sales terminals but only one of them would keep the db, indexes etc. The customers had two machines, and also did I, but I wanted to speed things up so I tried to open multiple DOS windows on a single machine and let them share the same directory emulating the NETBIOS shares environment, so that I could for example compile both client and server on the same machine off the same code base to keep code changes consistent in case I was for example changing common structures etc. Turns out that OS/2, after enabling something to allow data sharing between DOS instances (can't recall which option or setting), not only worked but was a lot more stable than Windows 95 at that; for some reasons Win95 appeared to work for a while, only to crash in multiple ways shortly after, while OS/2 never had a hitch, so after realizing that Windows wasn't an option I ditched it for good using only OS/2. Good times.
- neverartful 3y agoThe infamous "SIQ" problem is synchronous (not single) input queue.
- neverartful 3y agoRegarding compilers, IBM had their C Set/2 compiler and then later the VisualAge C++ one. Borland also produced a C++ compiler and IDE as well. Funny that you should mention Clipper because I developed Clipper software too that got to be too big (memory requirements) for DOS to handle without doing crazy tricks. At that point, I sucked it up and transitioned it to OS/2 PM. I wrote the GUI front end in Watcom's VX-REXX (an excellent product) and the back-end in C and using DB2/2. Fun times!
- andrewstuart 3y agoBe nice if they zipped it up and offered a download link for the entire site.
- mike_hock 3y agoOr upload it to archive.org themselves. In their own interest. Instead of inviting hoarders to hammer the server with crawlers, upload it once and say it's already there.
- rany_ 3y agoSeems like you could pull their site via FTP: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38933694 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38933694
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- PhasmaFelis 3y agoBitTorrent, ideally, so fans can share the bandwidth burden.
- mixmastamyk 3y agoTorrent sounds like a good idea in this situation.
- rezmason 3y agoIf you hated Windows in the nineties and you're feeling sentimental, seems like there's plenty of anti-Microsoft stuff in there for old time's sake
- pengaru 3y agoWeird, they even still have recent additions: https://hobbes.nmsu.edu/?path=%2Fpub%2Fnew https://hobbes.nmsu.edu/?path=%2Fpub%2Fnew Edit, for posterity, as this site's demise is imminent, /pub/new's present contents: Directory: /pub/new Name Description Type Upload Date ../ (to /pub) (dir) assoccls4.wpi WPS class that implements the "Become" functionality for file objects per drag and drop [Detail] application/octet-stream 18.74 KB 2024/01/03 assoccls4.wpi WPS class that implements the "Become" functionality for file objects per drag and drop [Detail] application/octet-stream 18.74 KB 2024/01/03 LabelA_2-00b.zip LabelA 2.00 beta (2004-12-09) [Detail] application/zip 417.38 KB 2024/01/06 Agena_3-9-1.wpi Agena is a procedural programming language [Detail] application/octet-stream 10.22 MB 2024/01/07 Jd_1-10.zip Jd - A Graphical Debugger for Java 1.10 (1998-01-28) [Detail] application/zip 214.23 KB 2023/12/30 Anti-MS_Fun_Wallpapers_Vol-1.zip Anti Microsoft Fun Old BMP wallpapers Vol 1 [Detail] application/zip 3.07 MB 2023/12/31 BluePortals_BigIcons_r2.zip Blue Portals theme rel 2 for Dynamic Icons (2023-12-31) [Detail] application/zip 5.25 MB 2023/12/31 DavidsArcaOSWallpapers_Vol-1.zip David's ArcaOS Wallpapers Vol 1 (2023-12-31) [Detail] application/zip 12.54 MB 2023/12/31 DavidsXWPBootLogos_Vol-1.zip David's XWorkPlace Boot Logos Vol 1 (2023-12-31) [Detail] application/zip 1.72 MB 2023/12/31 FileCabinets_BigIcons_r5.zip File Cabinets theme rel 5 for Dynamic Icons (2023-12-17) [Detail] application/zip 4.54 MB 2023/12/31 Filecabinets2_BigIcons_r5.zip File Cabinets 2 theme rel 5 for Dynamic Icons (2023-12-21) [Detail] application/zip 4.76 MB 2023/12/31 Ice_BigIcons_r2.zip Ice theme rel 2 for Dynamic Icons (2023-12-31) [Detail] application/zip 4.69 MB 2023/12/31 LookingGlass_BigIcons_r3.zip Looking Glass theme rel 3 for Dynamic Icons (2023-12-31) [Detail] application/zip 5.16 MB 2023/12/31 Nature_Wallpapers_Vol-1.zip Nature and Photography Old BMP wallpapers Vol 1 [Detail] application/zip 8.59 MB 2023/12/31 Pink_BigIcons_r2.zip Pink theme rel 2 for Dynamic Icons (2023-12-31) [Detail] application/zip 4.79 MB 2023/12/31 Red_BigIcons_r3.zip Red theme rel 3 for Dynamic Icons (2023-12-31) [Detail] application/zip 4.92 MB 2023/12/31 WarpItUpWallpapers_1995-04-30.zip Warp It Up Wallpapers (1995-04-30) [Detail] application/zip 1.2 MB 2023/12/31 freerdp-wpi-20231225.zip Remote Desktop Protocol (RDP) client. [Detail] application/zip 1.91 MB 2023/12/31 DG_Pointers_1-0.zip Mouse Pointers by David Graser (2018-12-25) [Detail] application/zip 161.85 KB 2024/01/01 PasswordManager_5-0-3b.zip Password Manager 5.0.3 beta (2005-07-28) [Detail] application/zip 764.47 KB 2024/01/06 eComStation_Wallpapers_Vol-4.zip eComStation Wallpapers Vol 4 (2007-02-18) [Detail] application/zip 3.47 MB 2024/01/01 PointerPak_1-3.zip Pointer Pak 1.3 (2024-01-01) [Detail] application/zip 316.71 KB 2024/01/01
- squarefoot 3y agoThis has been an institution for OS/2 users; they also published their CD by the same name, very useful when Internet access was uncommon or so slow that downloading so much material would have required an eternity.
- fluffycritter 3y agoThe CD archive was actually published by an unaffiliated company that specialized in bundling up public data repositories onto CD-ROM. NMSU was never involved in the publishing of physical artifacts.
- codetrotter 3y agolftp hobbes.nmsu.edu ls pub drwxr-xr-x 2 ftp ftp 6 Jun 19 2022 delayed drwxr-xr-x 8 ftp ftp 74 Jun 14 2023 dos drwsrwxrwt 3 ftp ftp 4096 Jan 09 22:51 incoming drwxr-xr-x 7 ftp ftp 63 Mar 22 2023 java drwxr-xr-x 9 ftp ftp 94 Mar 22 2023 multimedia drwxr-xr-x 3 ftp ftp 4096 Jan 09 08:01 new drwxr-xr-x 9 ftp ftp 87 Jan 10 2022 os2 drwxr-sr-x 2 ftp ftp 6 Jan 09 2020 text-archives drwxr-xr-x 8 ftp ftp 77 Jun 14 2023 windows
- winrid 3y agoSomeone was maintaining a MySQL build for OS/2 up until 2019!? https://hobbes.nmsu.edu/?path=%2Fpub%2Fos2%2Fserver%2Fdatabase https://hobbes.nmsu.edu/?path=%2Fpub%2Fos2%2Fserver%2Fdataba...
- calgarymicro 3y agoBetter yet: there is a company that is still currently maintaining and selling a commerical copy of OS/2![0] [0]https://www.arcanoae.com/ https://www.arcanoae.com/
- pavlov 3y agoAs an IBM product, OS/2 was part of some very long support contracts with companies like banks that also had z/OS mainframes. There was OS/2 in some ATMs well into the 2000s, but I don’t know when those might have been replaced.
- wk_end 3y agoPretty sure MTA (NYC subway) ticket machines were running OS/2 into the mid 2010s and maybe still are.
- doubloon 3y agohere is the time the company that is licensing/developing OS/2 in 2023 did a takedown copyright notice to a guy on youtube who just made a video showing it working https://www.os2world.com/forum/index.php?topic=3249.0 https://www.os2world.com/forum/index.php?topic=3249.0 i wonder if this has anything to do with that company?
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- rfl890 3y agoQuick, call the Archive Team!
- t09i209ba893 3y agoJason Scott: "Nobody should worry about Hobbes, I've got Hobbes handled." https://mastodon.archive.org/@textfiles/111728995296654678 https://mastodon.archive.org/@textfiles/111728995296654678
- snvzz 3y agoTo Hobbes OS/2 Archive: If you're going to do that, please provide a zip of the entire website. Make things easy for archivists. It's almost no effort on your end, relative to the effort you've already put in placing this notice.