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AMD Unveils AMD Radeon RX 7600 XT Graphics Card
- WhereIsTheTruth 3y agoI own a RX 6600 XT, I bought it for ~$200, best card ever for 1080p, works out of the box on linux A bit sad about the TDP, from 160W to 190W, but the price remains cheap at $329 I plan to upgrade to a bigger screen so this looks like the perfect upgrade for me
- hypercube33 3y agoJust curious if you're using it for gaming or other uses? I find it wild that $300 cards are the cheap end now when buying one for that 10 years ago was spending over 50% of my builds price on an upgrade part. Normally I find used eBay mining cards and run with them for four years. What distro are you using that it worked out of the box? I threw my 580x on an ubuntu fork a few years ago and had a hell of a time getting it working.
- thinkerswell 3y ago> I find it wild that $300 cards are the cheap The natural consequence of printing a ton of money > I threw my 580x on an ubuntu fork a few years ago I’ve found AMD cards to be the most stable under Linux
- WhereIsTheTruth 3y agoI use it for both gaming and gamedev My gaming setup runs on Arch Linux, i had a RX 580 just before that one, i don't remember having issues setting it up
- NekkoDroid 3y ago1. (According to my short research) 300$ in 2013 are a bit below 400$ nowadays, so you also kinda gotta take that into account. 2. Low-end GPUs have been/are being attempted to be mostly replaced by APUs (at least on the AMD side) which kinda makes sense. 3. Normal pricing has gone outta the window ever since the NFT craze (or demand if you wanna put it that way) and now the AI craze.
- andruby 3y agoSorry for off topic. Wolframalpha makes it easy to compare USD accross years and uses official inflation numbers. "2013 $300" [0] would be worth $386 now (2024). If you use ddg, that's "!wa 2013 $300" or if you want it in reverse "!wa $300 in 2023" [0] https://www.wolframalpha.com/input?i=2013+%24300 https://www.wolframalpha.com/input?i=2013+%24300
- NekkoDroid 3y agoDidn't know WA actually did that, but not too surprised. (Also, you writing it out again I kinda forgot that it's 2024, not 2023)
- CountHackulus 3y agoInterestingly, it only seems to work if you force US dollars. When it defaults to Canadian dollars for me it tries to multiply $300 by 2013 inches.
- earthling8118 3y agoIt should be basically any distro. The driver is part of the kernel.
- coffeebeqn 3y agoYou can also buy a used card. Most mid+ cards from the last 5 years are quite capable. I got a 5700 XT to play some games and it’s I think better than any console you can buy? Cost $170 I think. Can do 1440p in most games still
- Nullabillity 3y agoWent from 480 to 7800 on Arch, both Just Worked (install Mesa and that's about it). On the other hand I tried like 3 different 5600s a few years ago, and it was unstable enough that I got it replaced with a 580 (basically a rebadged 480).
- BaculumMeumEst 3y agocould you just throttle the card down to 160W?
- epolanski 3y agoVery easily, AMD has been releasing cards overvolted out of the box for ages, playing it very safe.
- nicolaslem 3y agoGP was not suggesting playing with voltages but simply power limiting the card, which tends to be easier to do and doesn't affect stability but has a performance hit.
- deergomoo 3y agoI’ve got a regular RX 6600 (non-XT), and it’s been fantastic for the mostly older and/or indie games I tend to play, even at 1440p. Eager to know how this will compare. I’d like something beefier than what I have now, but what used to buy you a whole upper-mid-range PC barely covers an upper-mid-range GPU.
- Semaphor 3y agoI use the non-XT with dual WQHD monitors with no issues. But I also don’t play any shooters or other action games.
- epolanski 3y agoCould it be a good card to test LLMs at home? 16GBs of ram don't come out often at that price range.
- endo_bunker 3y agoIs the typical limiting factor for local LLM performance the amount of VRAM?
- smw 3y agoYes
- netdur 3y agoI have MBP M1Max 32GB - it is $20000 now very good for LLM.
- chx 3y agoMeanwhile, the AMD Radeon RX 7600M XT GPU exists and is used in both new portable eGPUs: the GPD G1 (which I own) and the ONEXGPU which is being crowdfunded right now. It is a slightly more powerful version of the 7700S. I am sure this naming makes sense and it's only me who misses something.
- Dalewyn 3y agoOne of the reasons I never ever consider AMD hardware when I'm looking to buy something is because the naming schemes do not make any sense. For example: Did you know some Ryzen 7000 CPUs, introduced with the Zen 4 architecture, are Zen 2 and Zen 3 and also Zen 3+?[1] Did you know Ryzen 3000 spans Zen, Zen+, and Zen 2?[2] And here's the kicker: Ryzen 5000 is the 4th generation of Ryzen CPUs, based on Zen 3 which is the 4th generation of Zen, except the Ryzen APUs which are based on Zen 2 which is the 3rd generation of Zen. Oh by the way, Zen 4 is the 6th generation of Zen. Yeah. I very sincerely ain't got time for this fucking nonsense. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryzen#Mobile_6 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryzen#Mobile_6 [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryzen#Ryzen_3000 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryzen#Ryzen_3000
- red-iron-pine 3y agoIs Intel or Nvidia even better about this? > Yeah. I very sincerely ain't got time for this fucking nonsense. aye, is also most of what you said. if following a naming schema is too hard for you mon ami then stop buying hardware independently and pick up whatever Alienware is releasing this quarter.
- Dalewyn 3y ago>Is Intel or Nvidia even better about this? Surprisingly: Yes. They (usually) don't label inferior/older tech as new tech, for one. If Intel says something is 12th gen or 13th gen or 14th gen, it generally is. Likewise Nvidia, if they say something is 3rd gen or 4th gen, it generally is. This already greatly simplifies things; numbers actually mean something. Then they don't have more suffixes and prefixes than I can be bothered to remember. Intel? The first number (eg: i7) denotes class within generation. First one or two digits in the second number denote generation (eg: 12 in 12700K). The third number denotes tier within the class (eg: 700 in 12700K). The suffix, if any, denotes overclocking (K), supremely-special (S), no graphics (F), powerful mobile (H), desktop repurposed for mobile (HX), power-saving (P), and ultra power-saving (U). For Nvidia, it's either GTX or RTX prefix for no raytracing or raytracing enabled respectively. Then the first one or two digits in the number denotes generation, and the following digits denote tier within the generation. Super or Ti are appended for higher tier models of the same number. Meanwhile, what the sincere fuck is AMD?
- UI_at_80x24 3y agoThis is my next upgrade from an Nvidia 1660.
- Kon-Peki 3y agoLooks like the power draw could be almost double your 1660. Better check to see if you need an upgraded power supply.
- whalesalad 3y agoChat, what is your preferred AMD GPU vendor? I have had mixed results. My biggest gripe is acoustics - squealing, screeching, coil whine, etc. I've had mixed results with PowerColor, terrible results with Sapphire. I have an ASRock Taichi card (7900XTX) that is so large the pcb/frame began to bend and that introduced a noise into the fans. The support bracketry that came with the card was missing all hardware, so I ran without it for a while. Perhaps that is on me. I supported it with a snus can and it has slowly cooked itself back to being straight. I always prefer the aesthetic of the reference cards, but believe the aftermarket manufacturers do a better job with cooling.
- vladvasiliu 3y agoI've personally had a good experience with XFX cards. I haven't had that many (not a hardcore gamer), but they've all worked perfectly well over multiple years, and never developed any kind on noise. The youngest is a 5600XT I bought used in 2020. They have never been top of the line models, but one or two steps down. I've always used "silent" cases, since I hate noise with a passion, but I'm not sure how much that actually changes things.
- coffeebeqn 3y agoI’ve also had good luck with XFX cards - even used ones. But this is wildly anecdotal of course
- _cenw 3y agoYou might have a power supply issue if you get coil while this consistently. Very happy with my Sapphire Nitro 7900 XTX.
- empyrrhicist 3y agoLikewise
- jl6 3y agoI have a Sapphire RX 5700 and it's basically fine, although I don't ask much of it.
- kaliszad 3y agoBasically 12ish years after the Radeon HD series with the GCN architecture we return to the 7XXX numbers. :-) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_graphics_processin...
- MadnessASAP 3y ago*3rd time. Not sure what became of my Radeon 7200 but I have a sweet Radeon HD 7770 (GHz Edition!!!) that still works.
- sdwvit 3y agoThere are rumors AMD won't do high end cards anymore. So 7900xtx becomes the last one to compete with NVidia on that front. Honestly, after owning 7900xtx for one year, I find it difficult to saturate it with tasks. I only play non-graphics heavy games like rimworld or aoe2de. Sometimes I play Hogwards Legacy with my partner, and the performance there is not the highest imaginable. But I read online that is because the game is not well optimized. Perhaps, you don't even need more powerfull graphics, since games are oriented at mid-market anyways.
- pawelduda 3y agoGame can run like crap even on RTX 4090 if you turn up settings all the way up
- dralley 3y ago>There are rumors AMD won't do high end cards anymore. No there aren't. There are rumors AMD isn't doing a high end card for the next generation. That isn't the same thing. In any case, graphics cards are improving faster than the ability to make use of the power, especially with upscaling technology. Now that "midrange" cards are able to hit 144hz at 1440p with maximum graphics, the market for high-end is probably going to dry up a bit, at least until full path tracing is viable, or 4k monitors get cheaper. What would make sense for AMD is to spend less time on fancy hardware architectures (dual-chip GPUs) and more time focusing on getting AI working well, improving their software stack, and not having issues like the "power bug" that supposedly held back the 7000 series GPUs from reaching their intended performance goals. I expect that's what they're doing.
- ls612 3y agoThe rumor is that RDNA 4 is a mulligan gen for AMD while they get chiplet based GPUs ready for RDNA 5 in 2025. While Nvidia is going fully monolithic for Blackwell and won’t be using chiplets until at least the 6000 series. So there’s a chance AMD could actually pull out in front of Big Green in two years.
- WhackyIdeas 3y agoI’d like to know how it fairs with 8K or 4K. I have an 8K 60hz Dell monitor which my Nvidia 4090 runs games on beautifully. But the real dream is the tv which plays 4K at 120hz. If you at least want to future proof your graphics card, surely you’d want to know about 4K support at the very least.
- WXLCKNO 3y agoDamn that's 8k at 32 inches? Do you use that for 4-5-8k video editing or so do other use case? 4000$ monitor
- WhackyIdeas 3y agoThe Dell is mostly just for productivity as there is a tonne of real estate. I have ADHD and I get totally distracted when I don’t have all the windows on the same screen, then my chain of thought slips and I can’t remember what I am doing. I still get this on the 8K screen, but it’s more manageable. Of course, I cannot go to native resolution because the windows are so small I can only read anything - 200% is good for me. I found it 2nd hand off eBay for a good bit less than what you said.