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Wait wait wait, they advertise the iPhone as waterproof but still void the warranty and won’t fix it if their waterproofing fails? We lost the headphone jack fo
by donatj 3y ago
Wait wait wait, they advertise the iPhone as waterproof but still void the warranty and won’t fix it if their waterproofing fails? We lost the headphone jack for this?
- scosman 3y agoThis is Mac, not iPhone.
- martin-adams 3y agoRead the first paragraph: >> Apple’s limited warranty doesn’t cover damage caused by liquids, even for water-resistant products like the iPhone, Apple Watch, and some AirPods models.
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- multjoy 3y agoThat's because it's a warranty - it covers faults, not damages. If you want apple to fork out for a new one because you've dived into the sea with the phone on an armband then you need to pony up for Apple Care +
- gmac 3y agoIf you sell a device as waterproof and then it gets damaged by water, that’s obviously a fault: it wasn’t waterproof like it was meant to be.
- aplummer 3y agoWho is selling a waterproof phone. Because it’s not Apple.
- indymike 3y agoMy iPhone 15 was advertised as meeting IP68 under IEC standard 60529 (maximum depth of 6 meters up to 30 minutes) and Apple even publishes a handy list of their products and how water resistant/proof they are: https://support.apple.com/en-us/108039 https://support.apple.com/en-us/108039 > Because it’s not Apple. It is.
- dpkonofa 3y agoThat's IP68 Water Resistance. That's not the same thing as Waterproof.
- helsinkiandrew 3y agoWater resistant not proof - no consumer product is going to be sold as water proof if the seal can be broken by undoing a few screws to change battery or repair. https://support.apple.com/en-us/108039 https://support.apple.com/en-us/108039 > These iPhone models are splash, water, and dust resistant and were tested under controlled laboratory conditions...
- blowski 3y agoiPhones are sold as IP67 or 68. Terms like water resistant and waterproof are too ambiguous.
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- scosman 3y agoNot sure what you're referring to. The parent comment specifically mentioned iPhones, waterproofing (not a Mac feature), losing headphone jack (not true of Macs). I was clarifying this article is about Macs, not iPhones.
- classified 3y ago[flagged]
- buro9 3y agoMy android pixel 7 reported water ingress in the usb port during a hike to kinder scout in the peak district (UK). It was raining lightly, but mostly there was a very thick fog / mist / drizzle that didn't really fall from the sky or land on you, rather it enveloped and coated you such that you were soaked. I'd only removed my phone from my waterproof jacket pocket on two occasions to verify GPS location as I was still using a laminated map and compass. This weather descended on me in about 10 minutes, I did not choose to be soaked. Sounds like taking an iPhone camping in parts of the UK where the weather can do this is now an absolute no. The pixel was fine btw, didn't stop working, and as soon as the air was less like soup it told me the water had cleared. Wouldn't want that to have been a warranty voiding event on a newer device though (I'm probably already out of warranty).
- sudosysgen 3y agoI don't think it's to void the warranty, it's just that the phone will refuse to charge (and blare an alarm if you try) in order to prevent corrosion when using the USB-C port wet.
- baz00 3y agoConversely my iPhone 13 Pro was taken all round the world and been soaked through, frozen and dropped tens of times in snow and a river. The clear TPU case looked like a water puzzle on a regular basis. Apple replaced the battery in it last week without a whimper and I expect they would do the same in the future. If I did this to my MacBook they probably would not. Which is the point.
- courseofaction 3y agoMy Iphone 12 recently spent a full night in a gutter during a rainstorm, water rushing over it. It was completely fine, didn't even seem to bother the hotspot. Wonder how my warranty's doing.
- jtbayly 3y agoI keep trying to conjure stories for how this happened. My favorite is that you were lying passed out in a gutter all night with water rushing over you. And the phone. But you only mentioned the phone. lol. How is your warranty doing? ;-)
- ralfd 3y agoWater resistant is not water proof.
- yellow_lead 3y agoNot very resistant then
- ralfd 3y agoI simply don't understand this dense sneering snark. The real world is analogue and not a binary on/off setting you click in a config file. "Make this thing indestructable" There is an infinite sliding scale from normal air humidity to the corrosive wetness of a tropical rainforest near a saltwater ocean or the difference being splashed with a few raindrops to being submerged for 100 years at the Mariana Trench.
- Doxin 3y agoA cop out is not warranty. If your phone can't deal with water you probably shouldn't advertise that it can.
- atoav 3y agoA water sensor tripping is no proof of misuse independent of the devices IP-rating.
- dghughes 3y ago*water Pure not salt water or tap water, not contaminated toilet water where most phones seem to end up. And only for a certain time at a certain depth (pressure). And not pressurized just static. Maybe they should be named USB-Sea? /s
- Larrikin 3y agoSony phones with headphone jacks, ten years ago were capable of all waterproof things you wanted to do. It's been a massive gaslighting campaign.
- blackbeans 3y agoSame thing with the Samsung S5 from 2014. IP67 waterproof with headphone jack and removable battery.
- adonese 3y agoI really am super pissed that we let go of removable batteries
- oez 3y agoWe didn't let them go, they were taken from us by force
- grishka 3y agoSame for sanely-sized screens. It really sucks for someone who doesn't watch any videos on their phone and still treats it mostly as a limited communication device rather than their primary gateway to the internet. The fact that I'm a relatively compact person doesn't help either.
- microtonal 3y agoThe iPhone 12/13 Mini was substantially smaller, but few people bought it, so they cancelled it. The vast majority seem to want large screens. Currently the only compromise are flip phones. I considered buying the Z Flip 5, but the screen protector needs to be replaced by Samsung to maintain warranty and there is no Samsung Store nearby. I asked and Samsung said I'd have to send it to them, losing my phone for a couple of days. No thanks.
- prpl 3y agoBeen charging my iPhone 12 mini since it was 5 months old because of my toddler for this reason. Charging port died, went in and couldn’t get through a round of apple care people and gave up
- froddd 3y agoNothing in the article says Apple will void warranty on an iPhone if water has been detected in the charging port (water damage is a different thing entirely). This concerns Mac computers, which are not sold as waterproof.
- kuschkufan 3y agoI don't know, the first sentence says: > Apple’s limited warranty doesn’t cover damage caused by liquids, even for water-resistant products like the iPhone, Apple Watch, and some AirPods models. But the article is kind of all over the place. It then says Macs can now detect water in USB-C ports while having pictures in the article of iPhones showing messages that they detected liquids. They like to make the point that Macs will report this back home to the mothershop while iPhones do not? idk Let's assume on Macs this is used to void warranty because like you said, they are not sold as waterproof. On iPhones it's to alert the user, so he can remove the water from the port - not concerning warranty?
- wkat4242 3y agoThe iPhone is full of water detector stickers inside and they do reject warranty claims if water got in. They say you must have done something you shouldn't have if that happens, like diving deep or something. They will even refuse to install a new battery if you pay them.
- that_guy_iain 3y ago> The iPhone is full of water detector stickers inside and they do reject warranty claims if water got in. I once went in for an out of warranty replacement where I said it was water damage and my phone was in the washing machine. The guy still went back to check the stickers and said "It must really been wet because it triggered all of the stickers" I pointed out it literally had water pouring out of it when I got it out of the washing machine. Fun fact, it was still powered on and operating when it came out of the washing machine for a few minutes then it went dead.
- ClassyJacket 3y ago
- mihalycsaba 3y agoI have a 300€ 2021 Motorola Defy. I wash it often under running water, took baths with it, no issues with the headphone jack, neither with the usb c port.
- sokoloff 3y ago“As a user, I want to be able to take baths with my phone.”?
- wkat4242 3y agoNo you lost the headphone jack to sell more AirPods. My Samsung S8 was waterproof and had the jack. And it was just as thin as an iPhone.
- ClassyJacket 3y agoEven Apple could do it. The iPhone 6S had both, tho Apple never advertised the waterproofing.
- faet 3y agoThey will disable charging if they detect liquids in the port as a way to reduce the chance of causing failures.
- Bluescreenbuddy 3y agoNo they do not and you know that. They've always been advertised as water resistant