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With a minor press release and just 256GB storage, it seems like Apple is losing faith in this direction. Hope I'm wrong, underlying tech seems super cool.

matwood 3y ago
They already did the big reveal and said it would be released Q1 2024. Should they do the big reveal again? At this point they need to get them in stores so people can try them out.
epolanski 3y ago
I don't think we should draw gigantic conclusions from the v1 of this product. The first iWatch of the first iPhones weren't anything to scream about either.
- bombcar 3y ago
  And there’s no real need to promote something that is going to instantly sell out anyway.
- acdha 3y ago
  The watch, no, but the iPhone was a huge deal - it started having negative impacts on legacy companies like Nokia almost immediately and Google launched a crash project to integrate iPhone-level touchscreen support in Android which had previously had a more traditional model.
  - epolanski 3y ago
    This is history rewriting. The original iPhone didn't even have the app store. It was not a "ground breaking" product till the iPhone 4.
    - Philpax 3y ago
      I'm keen for the Vision Pro, but the iPhone and iPod touch had already reached incredible market penetration by the iPhone 3GS. The reason the iPhone 4 leak was such a huge deal is because the iPhone had already left its mark on the industry.
    - acdha 3y ago
      It’s correct that the App Store didn’t exist but you’re still wrong about the impact (“We sold more iPhones in the first weekend of sales than in the first month of sales for any device in AT&T history.”). People kept predicting that it’d flop after the most loyal users all had one, and that just never happened. If you weren’t working in the field at the time, it’s hard to appreciate how much that put the mobile web on the map. The places I dealt with went from not caring about it really at all to crash projects optimizing their websites because all of the executives had iPhones and wanted their apps to support them well. I know at least two large organizations where the remote access policy was changed, too. Having been involved with phone/PDA apps since the late 90s, this was very different from anything I’d seen with things like WAP just fizzling with almost no interest from clients. At WWDC in 2008, it was frenzied even before the announcement of the App Store – so many web developers had been able to get permission to attend because of all of that interest.

matwood 3y ago

They already did the big reveal and said it would be released Q1 2024. Should they do the big reveal again? At this point they need to get them in stores so people can try them out.

epolanski 3y ago

I don't think we should draw gigantic conclusions from the v1 of this product. The first iWatch of the first iPhones weren't anything to scream about either.

bombcar 3y ago
And there’s no real need to promote something that is going to instantly sell out anyway.
acdha 3y ago
The watch, no, but the iPhone was a huge deal - it started having negative impacts on legacy companies like Nokia almost immediately and Google launched a crash project to integrate iPhone-level touchscreen support in Android which had previously had a more traditional model.
- epolanski 3y ago
  This is history rewriting. The original iPhone didn't even have the app store. It was not a "ground breaking" product till the iPhone 4.
  - Philpax 3y ago
    I'm keen for the Vision Pro, but the iPhone and iPod touch had already reached incredible market penetration by the iPhone 3GS. The reason the iPhone 4 leak was such a huge deal is because the iPhone had already left its mark on the industry.
  - acdha 3y ago
    It’s correct that the App Store didn’t exist but you’re still wrong about the impact (“We sold more iPhones in the first weekend of sales than in the first month of sales for any device in AT&T history.”). People kept predicting that it’d flop after the most loyal users all had one, and that just never happened. If you weren’t working in the field at the time, it’s hard to appreciate how much that put the mobile web on the map. The places I dealt with went from not caring about it really at all to crash projects optimizing their websites because all of the executives had iPhones and wanted their apps to support them well. I know at least two large organizations where the remote access policy was changed, too. Having been involved with phone/PDA apps since the late 90s, this was very different from anything I’d seen with things like WAP just fizzling with almost no interest from clients. At WWDC in 2008, it was frenzied even before the announcement of the App Store – so many web developers had been able to get permission to attend because of all of that interest.