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Is there any laptop these days that comes close to MacBooks hardware-wise and run Linux?

alluro2 3y ago
Performance-to-endurance ratio - unfortunately, no. But P14s (owned one before M1 Pro) has great build quality, performance is comparable, screen is good enough, keyboard is much better, sound is adequate, ports are better, portability is better... It's also very quiet even when under load. You're definitely not missing that much if you go with it instead of MBP 14, in my experience.
binkHN 3y ago
Nothing from Intel or AMD will come close as it relates to battery life. While there are arm options that have great battery life, the performance doesn't come near to that of a Mac.
- kramerger 3y ago
  Apple CPU has a good performance/ battery balance but they are not the best in either department. AMD reached and surpassed M performance already 1-2 years ago
  - theshrike79 3y ago
    It's easy to surpass performance with a 150 watt TDP. But for laptop users who aren't plugged in 24/7 performance/battery life is an important factor. I don't want a drag-race laptop that has ULTIMATE POWER ... for 1.5 hours and then I need to plug it in to a 200W+ power supply to get it to charge while still working. I want one I can use a full work day and still have battery left.
    - kramerger 3y ago
      The good old 5800H had 45W TDP (and was 20% faster than M1). The newer ones use significantly less power, I belive 15W TDP is common.
mixmastamyk 3y ago
Framework AMD is almost as good and better on the freedom and maintenance aspects.
- joshjob42 3y ago
  Not to mention you can put the same amonut of RAM and storage in a DIY with the same processor as this ThinkPad for ~$1400 sticker price for everything, about $700-800 less than this non-upgradeable machine. And if you can sacrifice a bit for the 7640u (~20-25% performance hit), it's about $1100 or ~ half the price of this machine. Personally I find it hard to believe it's worth spending twice as much for basically the same internals.

Performance-to-endurance ratio - unfortunately, no. But P14s (owned one before M1 Pro) has great build quality, performance is comparable, screen is good enough, keyboard is much better, sound is adequate, ports are better, portability is better... It's also very quiet even when under load. You're definitely not missing that much if you go with it instead of MBP 14, in my experience.

binkHN 3y ago

Nothing from Intel or AMD will come close as it relates to battery life. While there are arm options that have great battery life, the performance doesn't come near to that of a Mac.

kramerger 3y ago
Apple CPU has a good performance/ battery balance but they are not the best in either department. AMD reached and surpassed M performance already 1-2 years ago
- theshrike79 3y ago
  It's easy to surpass performance with a 150 watt TDP. But for laptop users who aren't plugged in 24/7 performance/battery life is an important factor. I don't want a drag-race laptop that has ULTIMATE POWER ... for 1.5 hours and then I need to plug it in to a 200W+ power supply to get it to charge while still working. I want one I can use a full work day and still have battery left.
  - kramerger 3y ago
    The good old 5800H had 45W TDP (and was 20% faster than M1). The newer ones use significantly less power, I belive 15W TDP is common.

mixmastamyk 3y ago

Framework AMD is almost as good and better on the freedom and maintenance aspects.

joshjob42 3y ago
Not to mention you can put the same amonut of RAM and storage in a DIY with the same processor as this ThinkPad for ~$1400 sticker price for everything, about $700-800 less than this non-upgradeable machine. And if you can sacrifice a bit for the 7640u (~20-25% performance hit), it's about $1100 or ~ half the price of this machine. Personally I find it hard to believe it's worth spending twice as much for basically the same internals.