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Oof that's a read... https://alex313031.blogspot.com/2024/01/the-good-bad-and-ugly.html https://alex313031.blogspot.com/2024/01/the-good-bad-and-ugl...

by speps 3y ago

binkHN 3y ago
Wow. That's quite the agenda.
- Rodmine 3y ago
  To voice against commercialisation of harmful for-profit medical procedures on children without any gain for most people? You're already sold on unnecessary vaccines, so might as well mutilate them and give them a bunch of prescription drugs to go with it.
  - binkHN 3y ago
    This doesn't belong in a browser.
    - xigoi 3y ago
      It was not in the browser, but on an orphaned page of the browser’s website.
sapiogram 3y ago
The only true oof thing is him being in the hospital for a month, the rest sounds no worse than any other open source drama.
RCitronsBroker 3y ago
really? is it? this entire outrage felt petty, malicious and nitpicky to me from the get go. is it really that big of a deal? if minors are deep enough into tech to play around with an open source chromium fork, they have been exposed to far, far more and probably darker stuff than raunchy, anthropomorphized bunnies or whatever. this is someone’s pet project, probably someone rather young themselves. it entirely possible you even found use in this someone’s pet project. And now you’re coming after them because of a cringy Easter egg? That’s just f*ckin mean
- speps 3y ago
  Whatever age this individual is doesn't matter really. It seems that the situation has been handled, and I'm sure it was a massive lesson. I didn't do anything but repost the bold link from the first paragraph of TFA...
- coldblues 3y ago
  I agree. It was hugely overblown. A big part of the LLM and Stable Diffusion software originates from 4chan's /g/ board. When a significant portion of cyber security specialists are furries who even post NSFW furry art on their social media profiles, is it really so surprising? It feels like another puritanical crusade and outrage culture at play.
- baz00 3y ago
  Some people feel validated by causing or supporting moral outrage on behalf of others as it feels like they are safeguarding them. I'm just happy some people are keeping the yiff community in mind :)
  - RCitronsBroker 3y ago
    ain’t it crazy? I’ll be the first to admit i don’t get furry stuff, but i also don’t get just about a universe of other stuff people are seemingly very much into, and neither do i expect everyone to understand why i willingly risk my life skydiving just because it gives me joy. this is cyberspace for gods sake, have some self respect and stop being dicks to others to virtue signal, that’s just downright mean man
    - baz00 3y ago
      Exactly that!
- babypuncher 3y ago
  I pretty much tune out of any argument as soon as it devolves into "think of the children". Maybe parent your children so when they go digging around in open source code and find some furry art it doesn't somehow destroy them.
hinkley 3y ago
On April 2, 1995, Mosaic for Windows users awoke to discover their browsers were behaving oddly. About three weeks earlier, the team was celebrating wrapping up a release at a reasonable hour (for once) when I uttered the words, “You know, this is the last release we are putting out before April Fools’ day.” Everyone in earshot somehow thought this was a tremendously valid point. By 1:00 am there was not one but around five separate Easter eggs set to go off on April 1. You will note I said April 2 above. I sat with the lead dev as we verified how date and time offsets worked so we didn’t have any off by one errors. Seems that some fields were zero indexed while others were one indexed. Terrible MS API. We came to consensus on what was right, we may have even tested it, and I left. But unfortunately he had a crisis of faith an hour later and created the off by one error. Luckily for us April 1 that year was a Saturday. A lot of our users, who had internet at work, never saw the prank at all, even with the off by one error. On Sunday the tech support emails started rolling in, and our clever little joke started to reveal itself as poor judgement. Some people got the joke, but many thought we had been hacked. By Monday we had a canned response, apologizing for our bad judgement and anyone who got freaked out thinking they got a virus, or that we did. Three proper adults and three college seniors and nobody said stop.
- areoform 3y ago
  Would you be open to explaining the joke and the error? I'm not able to decipher what went wrong from your comment right now (though it might just be me!).
  - hinkley 3y ago
    Is April first the zeroth day of April or the 1st? Turns out it was the 0th. The jokes were some ui changes. The icon spinning backward and the progress bar saying April Fool’s in rainbow text every nth page load. A bouncing logo screen saver like behavior that would wipe a window that had been idle for X minutes (restored on mouse over). I think there was one more, but the last I remember was the lead’s idea. After four (1?) hours idle, if you had audio enabled, you would hear the lead rapping his knuckles on his monitor and saying, “Hello? Is anybody there?” That could be funny or it could be terrifying.
orenlindsey 3y ago
This browser looks ok, but stuff like this turns me off from using it. Single-developer projects are always risky. What if the dev just decides to stop developing it? Or there's a massive vulnerability, and they're on vacation with no internet?
- dylan604 3y ago
  If that solo dev is an American, based on the use of the word vacation, it won't be that long. If they are non-American out on holiday, you could be screwed.
- dahhowl 3y ago
  yeah nobody's suggesting you to switch all your company's computers to a small browser project nobody's ever heard of. maybe the point of publishing the work on a new browser like this is to get the word out, get folks to fool around with it and explore the changes, and hopefully perhaps assemble a small community capable of seeing through a vision of making a faster chromium, rather than getting folks blindly using it as their daily browser straight away? if the project does take off, by the time it is actually good to be used as a daily driver it will be void of any furry art, trust me. the beauty of open source is that if the original developer stops developing or goes on holiday for a year you can pick up the torch. mature projects are eventually smooth-sailing and can be used out of the box, but any project goes through many years of not being so pleasant to use (most of the time, the reason's very simple: nobody's getting paid to work on it, so be grateful you have the software in the first place!)
xvector 3y ago
This is such a huge yikes but points to the dev for apologizing I guess. It's good technical work no matter how you cut it.
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Oof that's a read... https://alex313031.blogspot.com/2024/01/the-good-bad-and-ugly.html https://alex313031.blogspot.com/2024/01/the-good-bad-and-ugl...

by speps 3y ago

Oof that's a read... https://alex313031.blogspot.com/2024/01/the-good-bad-and-ugly.html https://alex313031.blogspot.com/2024/01/the-good-bad-and-ugl...

binkHN 3y ago

Wow. That's quite the agenda.

Rodmine 3y ago
To voice against commercialisation of harmful for-profit medical procedures on children without any gain for most people? You're already sold on unnecessary vaccines, so might as well mutilate them and give them a bunch of prescription drugs to go with it.
- binkHN 3y ago
  This doesn't belong in a browser.
  - xigoi 3y ago
    It was not in the browser, but on an orphaned page of the browser’s website.

sapiogram 3y ago

The only true oof thing is him being in the hospital for a month, the rest sounds no worse than any other open source drama.

RCitronsBroker 3y ago

really? is it? this entire outrage felt petty, malicious and nitpicky to me from the get go. is it really that big of a deal? if minors are deep enough into tech to play around with an open source chromium fork, they have been exposed to far, far more and probably darker stuff than raunchy, anthropomorphized bunnies or whatever. this is someone’s pet project, probably someone rather young themselves. it entirely possible you even found use in this someone’s pet project. And now you’re coming after them because of a cringy Easter egg? That’s just f*ckin mean

speps 3y ago
Whatever age this individual is doesn't matter really. It seems that the situation has been handled, and I'm sure it was a massive lesson. I didn't do anything but repost the bold link from the first paragraph of TFA...
coldblues 3y ago
I agree. It was hugely overblown. A big part of the LLM and Stable Diffusion software originates from 4chan's /g/ board. When a significant portion of cyber security specialists are furries who even post NSFW furry art on their social media profiles, is it really so surprising? It feels like another puritanical crusade and outrage culture at play.
baz00 3y ago
Some people feel validated by causing or supporting moral outrage on behalf of others as it feels like they are safeguarding them. I'm just happy some people are keeping the yiff community in mind :)
- RCitronsBroker 3y ago
  ain’t it crazy? I’ll be the first to admit i don’t get furry stuff, but i also don’t get just about a universe of other stuff people are seemingly very much into, and neither do i expect everyone to understand why i willingly risk my life skydiving just because it gives me joy. this is cyberspace for gods sake, have some self respect and stop being dicks to others to virtue signal, that’s just downright mean man
  - baz00 3y ago
    Exactly that!
babypuncher 3y ago
I pretty much tune out of any argument as soon as it devolves into "think of the children". Maybe parent your children so when they go digging around in open source code and find some furry art it doesn't somehow destroy them.

hinkley 3y ago

On April 2, 1995, Mosaic for Windows users awoke to discover their browsers were behaving oddly. About three weeks earlier, the team was celebrating wrapping up a release at a reasonable hour (for once) when I uttered the words, “You know, this is the last release we are putting out before April Fools’ day.” Everyone in earshot somehow thought this was a tremendously valid point. By 1:00 am there was not one but around five separate Easter eggs set to go off on April 1. You will note I said April 2 above. I sat with the lead dev as we verified how date and time offsets worked so we didn’t have any off by one errors. Seems that some fields were zero indexed while others were one indexed. Terrible MS API. We came to consensus on what was right, we may have even tested it, and I left. But unfortunately he had a crisis of faith an hour later and created the off by one error. Luckily for us April 1 that year was a Saturday. A lot of our users, who had internet at work, never saw the prank at all, even with the off by one error. On Sunday the tech support emails started rolling in, and our clever little joke started to reveal itself as poor judgement. Some people got the joke, but many thought we had been hacked. By Monday we had a canned response, apologizing for our bad judgement and anyone who got freaked out thinking they got a virus, or that we did. Three proper adults and three college seniors and nobody said stop.

areoform 3y ago
Would you be open to explaining the joke and the error? I'm not able to decipher what went wrong from your comment right now (though it might just be me!).
- hinkley 3y ago
  Is April first the zeroth day of April or the 1st? Turns out it was the 0th. The jokes were some ui changes. The icon spinning backward and the progress bar saying April Fool’s in rainbow text every nth page load. A bouncing logo screen saver like behavior that would wipe a window that had been idle for X minutes (restored on mouse over). I think there was one more, but the last I remember was the lead’s idea. After four (1?) hours idle, if you had audio enabled, you would hear the lead rapping his knuckles on his monitor and saying, “Hello? Is anybody there?” That could be funny or it could be terrifying.

orenlindsey 3y ago

This browser looks ok, but stuff like this turns me off from using it. Single-developer projects are always risky. What if the dev just decides to stop developing it? Or there's a massive vulnerability, and they're on vacation with no internet?

dylan604 3y ago
If that solo dev is an American, based on the use of the word vacation, it won't be that long. If they are non-American out on holiday, you could be screwed.
dahhowl 3y ago
yeah nobody's suggesting you to switch all your company's computers to a small browser project nobody's ever heard of. maybe the point of publishing the work on a new browser like this is to get the word out, get folks to fool around with it and explore the changes, and hopefully perhaps assemble a small community capable of seeing through a vision of making a faster chromium, rather than getting folks blindly using it as their daily browser straight away? if the project does take off, by the time it is actually good to be used as a daily driver it will be void of any furry art, trust me. the beauty of open source is that if the original developer stops developing or goes on holiday for a year you can pick up the torch. mature projects are eventually smooth-sailing and can be used out of the box, but any project goes through many years of not being so pleasant to use (most of the time, the reason's very simple: nobody's getting paid to work on it, so be grateful you have the software in the first place!)

xvector 3y ago

This is such a huge yikes but points to the dev for apologizing I guess. It's good technical work no matter how you cut it.

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