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> I’m not sure how BYD would fair in Norway/Sweden Pretty sure BWD is the top selling EV manufacturer in Sweden, I recall reading that before the Tesla union s

by dmoy 3y ago

> I’m not sure how BYD would fair in Norway/Sweden Pretty sure BWD is the top selling EV manufacturer in Sweden, I recall reading that before the Tesla union shenanigans happened. No idea about Norway

seanmcdirmid 3y ago
Does BYD use a dealership model in sweden like they do in China? If so, they would just outsource all of those issues to local parties.
- eptcyka 3y ago
  They have their own showrooms in the cities.
  - seanmcdirmid 3y ago
    So they are following Tesla’s direct model?
    - eptcyka 3y ago
      Yes.
ripjaygn 3y ago
> Pretty sure BWD is the top selling EV manufacturer in Sweden, I recall reading that before the Tesla union shenanigans happened. Source, please. VW and Tesla seem far far ahead of BYD. I am curious where this narrative started, since multiple people are confidently stating that BYD is outselling Tesla in Sweden.
bryanlarsen 3y ago
Those news headlines are very misleading. Most Tesla's, all BYD's and certain Volvo models are imported from China on large ships so will sell thousands in one month and essentially zero in others. So while the BYD Atto 3 was the best-selling car in a couple of the months of 2023, for annual sales it is well behind the Tesla Y and Volvo XC40. https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/tesla-new-car-registrations-sweden-rose-9-dec-2024-01-02/ https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/tesla-...
moogly 3y ago
Luckily, all this information is publicly available and searchable, and you will find that it is Tesla. https://www.car.info/en-se/stats?from=2023-02&to=2024-01&vd=4.8.18.19.20&et0=3&tcb=registered&tcs=registered&tcf=registered https://www.car.info/en-se/stats?from=2023-02&to=2024-01&vd=...
chaosprint 3y ago
It's not even close to Tesla here in Norway. Mostly because the price is not as competitive as they are in China and the system difference is another issue. Plus, the psychology.
Briq7 3y ago
Top 20 new cars sales in Norway for 2023 Tesla Model Y: 23.088 cars (18,2 percent) Volkswagen ID.4: 6614 cars (5,2 percent) Skoda Enyaq: 5740 cars (4,5 percent) Toyota bZ4X: 5395 cars (4,2 percent) Volvo XC40: 5025 cars (4,0 percent) Ford Mustang Mach-E: 3792 cars (3,0 percent) Toyota Yaris: 3582 cars (2,8 percent) Toyota RAV4: 3457 cars (2,7 percent) Volkswagen ID.3: 3141 cars (2,5 percent) Hyundai Kona: 2991 cars (2,4 percent) Audi Q4 e-tron: 2688 cars (2,1 percent) Nissan Ariya: 2606 cars (2,1 percent) Nissan Leaf: 2471 cars (1,9 percent) BMW iX1: 2415 cars (1,9 percent) Tesla Model 3: 2083 cars (1,6 percent) Toyota Corolla: 1911 cars (1,5 percent) Polestar 2: 1832 cars (1,4 percent) BMW i4: 1782 cars (1,4 percent) MG4: 1622 cars (1,3 percent) Audi Q8 e-tron: 1602 cars (1,3 percent)

by dmoy 3y ago

seanmcdirmid 3y ago

Does BYD use a dealership model in sweden like they do in China? If so, they would just outsource all of those issues to local parties.

eptcyka 3y ago
They have their own showrooms in the cities.
- seanmcdirmid 3y ago
  So they are following Tesla’s direct model?
  - eptcyka 3y ago
    Yes.

ripjaygn 3y ago

> Pretty sure BWD is the top selling EV manufacturer in Sweden, I recall reading that before the Tesla union shenanigans happened. Source, please. VW and Tesla seem far far ahead of BYD. I am curious where this narrative started, since multiple people are confidently stating that BYD is outselling Tesla in Sweden.

bryanlarsen 3y ago

Those news headlines are very misleading. Most Tesla's, all BYD's and certain Volvo models are imported from China on large ships so will sell thousands in one month and essentially zero in others. So while the BYD Atto 3 was the best-selling car in a couple of the months of 2023, for annual sales it is well behind the Tesla Y and Volvo XC40. https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/tesla-new-car-registrations-sweden-rose-9-dec-2024-01-02/ https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/tesla-...

moogly 3y ago

Luckily, all this information is publicly available and searchable, and you will find that it is Tesla. https://www.car.info/en-se/stats?from=2023-02&to=2024-01&vd=4.8.18.19.20&et0=3&tcb=registered&tcs=registered&tcf=registered https://www.car.info/en-se/stats?from=2023-02&to=2024-01&vd=...

chaosprint 3y ago

It's not even close to Tesla here in Norway. Mostly because the price is not as competitive as they are in China and the system difference is another issue. Plus, the psychology.

Briq7 3y ago

Top 20 new cars sales in Norway for 2023 Tesla Model Y: 23.088 cars (18,2 percent) Volkswagen ID.4: 6614 cars (5,2 percent) Skoda Enyaq: 5740 cars (4,5 percent) Toyota bZ4X: 5395 cars (4,2 percent) Volvo XC40: 5025 cars (4,0 percent) Ford Mustang Mach-E: 3792 cars (3,0 percent) Toyota Yaris: 3582 cars (2,8 percent) Toyota RAV4: 3457 cars (2,7 percent) Volkswagen ID.3: 3141 cars (2,5 percent) Hyundai Kona: 2991 cars (2,4 percent) Audi Q4 e-tron: 2688 cars (2,1 percent) Nissan Ariya: 2606 cars (2,1 percent) Nissan Leaf: 2471 cars (1,9 percent) BMW iX1: 2415 cars (1,9 percent) Tesla Model 3: 2083 cars (1,6 percent) Toyota Corolla: 1911 cars (1,5 percent) Polestar 2: 1832 cars (1,4 percent) BMW i4: 1782 cars (1,4 percent) MG4: 1622 cars (1,3 percent) Audi Q8 e-tron: 1602 cars (1,3 percent)