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The pictures clearly show that the seat is still there. It also wasn't a window... that's a plug for an unused emergency exit location. Planes have spots in th

The pictures clearly show that the seat is still there. It also wasn't a window... that's a plug for an unused emergency exit location. Planes have spots in the fuselage where emergency exits can be placed if the aircraft is configured with enough seats where it needs more exits. This one wasn't, so instead of an emergency exit, there's a plug bolted into the spot instead. Would have to guess that there was a defect in this one though...

ceejayoz 3y ago
> Would have to guess that there was a defect in this one though... "The Front Fell Off" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m5qxZm_JqM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m5qxZm_JqM
toomuchtodo 3y ago
My citation could be inaccurate, Reddit post edit indicates only partial seat loss. > Second photo shows it wasn’t the full seat. Still couldn’t imagine sitting next to a gaping hole in the aircraft.
Animats 3y ago
It's not a plug door. It's an outward-opening door, apparently. [1] Usually, those things are plugs, and have to be pulled inward to open them, which is not possible when the cabin is pressurized. But there are B-737 configurations where it's an outward-opening door. For those, when there's a door installed, there's a single solenoid to prevent opening it in flight.[2] Is there some kind of dummy door that's installed if that location is not set up as an exit? I'd thought that outward-opening doors on passenger aircraft had gone away after the DC-10 disasters with them.[3] Apparently not. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFNU0cc29OQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFNU0cc29OQ [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Zyxy3naQh0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Zyxy3naQh0 [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_96 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_96
- cwillu 3y ago
  This was the (regular) rear door that Alaska effectively papers over.
  - cf1241290841 3y ago
    Even if that is the case, it shouldnt been an issue. The DC10 problem was due to insufficient safety mechanism that allowed for crew to unknowingly close the door without engaging the safety lock.
    - Animats 3y ago
      Here's the safety mechanism for this door.[1] [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Zyxy3naQh0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Zyxy3naQh0
- cf1241290841 3y ago
  The Turkish airlines crash was even worse. And it happened almost two years later after the FAA was fine with a gentlemen's agreement instead of an airworthiness directive. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_Airlines_Flight_981 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_Airlines_Flight_981 For anyone that doesnt know, McDonnell Douglas merged with Boeing.
  - extractionmech 3y ago
    r/merged/lobotomized
- numpad0 3y ago
  Prevent manual opening in flight, if that's the actual mechanism. That torque tube still has to be forcefully rotated to open.

ceejayoz 3y ago

> Would have to guess that there was a defect in this one though... "The Front Fell Off" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m5qxZm_JqM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m5qxZm_JqM

toomuchtodo 3y ago

My citation could be inaccurate, Reddit post edit indicates only partial seat loss. > Second photo shows it wasn’t the full seat. Still couldn’t imagine sitting next to a gaping hole in the aircraft.

Animats 3y ago

It's not a plug door. It's an outward-opening door, apparently. [1] Usually, those things are plugs, and have to be pulled inward to open them, which is not possible when the cabin is pressurized. But there are B-737 configurations where it's an outward-opening door. For those, when there's a door installed, there's a single solenoid to prevent opening it in flight.[2] Is there some kind of dummy door that's installed if that location is not set up as an exit? I'd thought that outward-opening doors on passenger aircraft had gone away after the DC-10 disasters with them.[3] Apparently not. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFNU0cc29OQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFNU0cc29OQ [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Zyxy3naQh0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Zyxy3naQh0 [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_96 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_96

cwillu 3y ago
This was the (regular) rear door that Alaska effectively papers over.
- cf1241290841 3y ago
  Even if that is the case, it shouldnt been an issue. The DC10 problem was due to insufficient safety mechanism that allowed for crew to unknowingly close the door without engaging the safety lock.
  - Animats 3y ago
    Here's the safety mechanism for this door.[1] [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Zyxy3naQh0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Zyxy3naQh0
cf1241290841 3y ago
The Turkish airlines crash was even worse. And it happened almost two years later after the FAA was fine with a gentlemen's agreement instead of an airworthiness directive. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_Airlines_Flight_981 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_Airlines_Flight_981 For anyone that doesnt know, McDonnell Douglas merged with Boeing.
- extractionmech 3y ago
  r/merged/lobotomized
numpad0 3y ago
Prevent manual opening in flight, if that's the actual mechanism. That torque tube still has to be forcefully rotated to open.