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Um, the lmsys elo ranking clearly shows that GPT-4 Turbo is better than GPT-4.

• anoncareer0212 3y ago
  Same for the ChatGPTs post launch (let's not talk about 11_02 :) ) -- and as long as we're asserting andecdotes freely, I work in the field and have a couple years in before ChatGPT -- it most certainly is not a well-kept secret or a secret or true or anything else other than standard post-millenial self-peasantization. "Outright lie" is kinder toward the average reader via being more succinct, but usually causes explosive reactions because people take a while to come to terms with their ad-hoc knowledge via consuming commentary is fundamentally flawed, if ever.
• int_19h 3y ago
  That just goes to show how useless the rankings are in general. If you actually use it, you'll quickly notice that older GPT-4 models are noticeably better at tasks that require reasoning. gpt-4-turbo also has an extremely annoying quirk where instead of producing a complete response, it tends to respond with "you can do it like this: blah blah ...; fill in the blanks as needed", where the blank is literally the most important part of the response. It can sometimes take 3-4 rounds to get it to actually do what it's supposed to do. But it does produce useless output much faster indeed.
  • refulgentis 3y ago
    This isn't true, I'm sorry. That may be your experience with it but it's not about the model. Using it is my day job and I've never ever seen that language. It's frustrating for both of us, I assume. I'm tired of people fact-free asserting it got worse because don't you know other people saw it got worse? And it did something bad the other day. You're tired of the thing not doing the thing and you have observed it no longer does the thing. And you certainly shouldn't need to retain past prompts just to prove it.