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Ukrainians mostly use their own drones made by various groups locally to avoid being centralized, they are also running into issues with russian jamming. Consu
by scrps 3y ago
Ukrainians mostly use their own drones made by various groups locally to avoid being centralized, they are also running into issues with russian jamming.
Consumer drone gear is very easy to jam, also easier to foxhunt (RF location hunting) so it works both ways.
- coffeebeqn 3y agoI wonder would something like a small anti-radiation missile work against whoever is sending the strong EW signal
- brucethemoose2 3y agoOr an anti-radiation drone!
- reactordev 3y agoSo now you have SEAD missions to protect your CAS missions but all in 1/14th scale FPV drones… the future is wild. It’s a game of rock-paper-scissors-lizard-spock.
- scrps 3y agoSomehow prescient: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_Soldiers https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_Soldiers
- hdhfjkrkrme 3y agoA missile is too heavy, it's easier to just fly the drone into the jammer if you can locate it.
- ponector 3y agoI doubt the signal is stronger than mobile phone or satellite connection. And the drone is too small to be intercepted with missile. FPV drone costs 500-1000$ now and is the game changer in the current war. No ground offensive operation can be maid now without great loses.
- jdietrich 3y agoJamming is a mixed bag, because a) you lose your own drone capability in that area and b) you broadcast a loud beacon that says "HERE IS THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF A HIGH-VALUE ASSET". The Ukrainians have had some big wins from triangulating weird-looking RF signals and unleashing hell on whatever is radiating it - you can jam a drone, but you can't jam a 155mm shell.
- Manuel_D 3y agoJamming can avoid "friendly fire" through a variety of means. Directional antennas can emit RF in the direction of the enemy, but not your own assets. You can also jam on different frequencies than you're using to operate your own drones.
- scrps 3y agoThat and larger drone comms for russia I would guess are satellite based which is harder to jam and sadly out of budget for the Ukrainians. That being said I wonder if you could control small drones over satellite or if that is a $900 solution to a 99 cent problem.
- Manuel_D 3y agoSatellite communications also has the issue of bigger form factor and larger power requirements. Not an issue for a predator drone, but your DJI isn't going to be using satellite comms any time soon. The more promising areas are optical communications (but this has issues with fog and atmospheric attenuation), or directional antennas. Like, a yagi on a gimbal constantly pointed at the control station.
- _ea1k 3y agoThat's all fine and dandy, but if you can use the source to approximate a location, you can hit it with himars. Alternatively, send gps guided drones with optical targeting. If the jamming system has inadequate air defenses, it might not be jamming for long.
- jdietrich 3y ago