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What is the problem with these "plastics"?
by looofooo 3y ago
What is the problem with these "plastics"?
- ChatGTP 3y agoPhthalates and bisphenols can disrupt the production and regulation of estrogen and other hormones, potentially boosting the risk of birth defects, cancer, diabetes, infertility, neurodevelopmental disorders, obesity and other health problems. From the article. I’d prefer it if my food didn’t contain these substances, wouldn’t you ?
- j4yav 3y agoAre there places where eating plastics is considered a normal food or food additive?
- KptMarchewa 3y agoMcDonalds
- BuckYeah 3y agoSubway
- bdhcuidbebe 3y agoi been chewing coca cola caps since the 80s
- dp-hackernews 3y agoPlastic pens Plastic straws Plastic Lilly sticks Plastic tie-wraps Basically anything that someone might chew on! Although, licorice roots are okay to chew on... I guess. :-)
- scoot 3y ago> Although, licorice roots are okay to chew on... I guess. Licorice can be toxic: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8962506/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8962506/
- AlexandrB 3y agoSo can water[1]. The dose makes the poison. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication
- dp-hackernews 3y agoAs can Oxygen.
- rudasn 3y agoPacifiers. If these things break down in unknown/unpublished ways we're all fcked.
- ceejayoz 3y agoIt took us a couple thousand years to realize we should stop fucking around with asbestos.
- Joker_vD 3y agoAlthough limestone is still considered safe and is used as e.g. filler in pills. So who knows, plastic too could be as safe or as unsafe as any rock.
- AlexandrB 3y ago> Although limestone is still considered safe and is used as e.g. filler in pills. AFAIK this makes sense. Asbestos is really dangerous only in the lungs, so you need to inhale a "friable" form of it somehow. Putting it in your stomach won't do anything.
- BizarroLand 3y agoI bet if you ate asbestos continually it would probably irritate the lining of your colon and increase the likelihood of IBS or Colon Cancer. Everything can and will kill you at some level. Death finds a way.
- Joker_vD 3y ago> I bet if you ate asbestos continually it would probably irritate the lining of your colon and increase the likelihood of IBS or Colon Cancer Well, that's never actually been proven so you can make a name for yourself by investigating this topic, if you feel so inclined.
- BizarroLand 3y agoSounds complicated, and even if I did start chewing on brake pads (my only available source of asbestos) then my findings would be limited to n=1 which can be ignored or relegated to anecdote.
- ledgerdev 3y agoI would strongly encourage you look into the research of Dr Shawna Swan. She's done several studies since the 1990's that have found and then later confirmed very alarming effects on testosterone and unborn children. And it's not just plastics causing this, it's pesticides and parabens too.
- throwawaaarrgh 3y ago[flagged]
- 93po 3y agoI guess lucky for me I already do HRT and have a vasectomy.
- looofooo 3y agoBut is it the same polymers they found in the food?
- ledgerdev 3y agoYes, they measured bisphenols and phthalates. I actually tracked down the original which has charts of how much was found, and is what should have been linked to in this post. https://www.consumerreports.org/health/food-contaminants/the-plastic-chemicals-hiding-in-your-food-a7358224781/ https://www.consumerreports.org/health/food-contaminants/the... Frankly it's frightening to consider the implications.
- looofooo 3y agoOK but levels are down from 2009, so we are in the right track.
- Eisenstein 3y agoOne thing you will find about articles and comments regarding this issue is that there is always a 'we don't know' aspect if you look past the fear inducing 'it could be doing this horrible thing' stances. I try to stay up to date with scholarly research regarding microplastic dangers to humans, and so far there is no conclusive evidence that they do anything harmful to us. Just know that you are exposed to many hundreds of actually harmful chemicals in your daily life -- but remember that it is the dose, not the presence of a toxin that causes harm. Even water will kill you if you drink too much of it. Until there is a smoking gun regarding these particles and human health, it would do good to focus on things you can control that are known to be harmful, rather than something you can't that is only scary sounding. That said, it is a good opportunity to use this to advocate for far less single-use plastics in society. We should not be using nearly as much plastic for nearly as many things as we do, and it needs to be drastically reduced.
- bthallplz 3y ago> it would do good to focus on things you can control that are known to be harmful Are you (or someone else) aware of any indices of how harmful various substances are and how pervasive they are? It'd be nice to know, for instance, how damaging one substance is versus another so that I can prioritize my concerns better. - I imagine that the quantity that someone consumes or is exposed to plays a role. It'd be interesting to see an index of how easily the toxic threshold can generally be hit via conventional sources.
- Eisenstein 3y ago> It'd be nice to know, for instance, how damaging one substance is versus another so that I can prioritize my concerns better. A list of harmful chemicals people could be exposed to in daily life shouldn't be difficult to compile if there isn't one already, but is relatively useless because as I noted exposure itself is not the problem in almost all cases. However taking that list and trying to compare the harm on some sort quantitative level is going to be difficult. I wouldn't worry about it -- I was speaking more about 'stay mindful of things around you that you can control, like wearing PPE when necessary or staying away from off-gassing plastics which have a characteristic smell' rather than 'make a list of everything you are exposed to and plan your life around it'.