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Even better is when you implement a gossip protocol[1] and ensure that not only did they burn the bridge with you, but with 1000 other people in your network /

Even better is when you implement a gossip protocol[1] and ensure that not only did they burn the bridge with you, but with 1000 other people in your network / degrees of separation. [1]: bad joke, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gossip_protocol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gossip_protocol

autoexec 3y ago
This is something unions and guilds were great at. They could easily collect data on how companies treated their members and communicate that effectively to all members in that industry. It left companies terrified of screwing over the workers because it killed off a massive segment of the labor pool they could draw from, especially the segment which contained the most skilled workers.
- pixl97 3y ago
  "But computer people don't need need stinkin unions" Can't believe someone hadn't replied that seriously to your post yet, moments before their job was outsourced.
  - autoexec 3y ago
    I have no doubt there are some people here who have skills so hard to find that it can overcome in inherent power asymmetry between employers and workers, but that isn't true for most workers, or even most tech workers. However much we want to cling to the mythos left over from the days when just knowing HTML and a bit of JS meant you were a rock star coder guaranteed a life of endless riches, that's just not the world we live in and no amount of 10xing harder is going to stop companies from suppressing our wages and benefits while they increasingly outsource and wait for the AI that will absolutely replace most of us entirely or turn us into little more than QA for AI output.
    - reactordev 3y ago
      I hate the term 10x for this very reason. You’re going to put 10 times the amount of effort vs what they pay you only to be let go in the next round of layoffs while the CEO gets a bigger bonus.
      - wiml 3y ago
        I think that's a deep misunderstanding of "the 10× programmer". They produce 10× of the useful output, but they don't necessarily work that much harder.

autoexec 3y ago

This is something unions and guilds were great at. They could easily collect data on how companies treated their members and communicate that effectively to all members in that industry. It left companies terrified of screwing over the workers because it killed off a massive segment of the labor pool they could draw from, especially the segment which contained the most skilled workers.

pixl97 3y ago
"But computer people don't need need stinkin unions" Can't believe someone hadn't replied that seriously to your post yet, moments before their job was outsourced.
- autoexec 3y ago
  I have no doubt there are some people here who have skills so hard to find that it can overcome in inherent power asymmetry between employers and workers, but that isn't true for most workers, or even most tech workers. However much we want to cling to the mythos left over from the days when just knowing HTML and a bit of JS meant you were a rock star coder guaranteed a life of endless riches, that's just not the world we live in and no amount of 10xing harder is going to stop companies from suppressing our wages and benefits while they increasingly outsource and wait for the AI that will absolutely replace most of us entirely or turn us into little more than QA for AI output.
  - reactordev 3y ago
    I hate the term 10x for this very reason. You’re going to put 10 times the amount of effort vs what they pay you only to be let go in the next round of layoffs while the CEO gets a bigger bonus.
    - wiml 3y ago
      I think that's a deep misunderstanding of "the 10× programmer". They produce 10× of the useful output, but they don't necessarily work that much harder.