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How is renting a room in a local pub inadequate? I did it for my wedding reception and it was, pardon my french, a fucking blast.

jen20 3y ago
It requires: - Up front planning - A pub to exist nearby. While I as a presumably fellow Brit would not buy a house without being able to walk to multiple pubs, that is not the common case in the US where I actually live. - The pub to have a room that it rents out. Again, not the common case even in London, let alone in the US. - Your potential guests to be OK with being at a pub. - Potentially childcare. If you have to have your party away from your house, you can't put your kids to bed and return to your guests, you have to go home. That part, if you will pardon my French, really fucking sucks.
- lukas099 3y ago
  > Up front planning Hosting your own party has a lot more planning. And don't discount the planning that went into obtaining your own party room in the first place. > A pub to exist nearby. While I as a presumably fellow Brit would not buy a house without being able to walk to multiple pubs, that is not the common case in the US where I actually live. Don't get hung up on the 'pub' part. It can be a restaurant, public park, street (block party), arcade, bowling alley, or whatever is fun and convenient for you. It can even be another room in your house. Move some furniture around, put in some speakers, BAM, party room.
  - jen20 3y ago
    > Hosting your own party has a lot more planning. It really doesn't. I have a backstock of beer and wine and cheese and a subscription to Apple Music, I can literally do it with 15 minutes notice, and have had plenty of practice at doing so. Most of my neighbours are the same. > a restaurant, public park, street (block party), arcade, bowling alley, or whatever is fun and convenient for you. - Restaurants do not like large groups showing up without reservations, and the cost is wildly different. - Drinking in public parks is not typically permitted, nor is street drinking. - Arcades and bowling alleys are out in the burbs and require driving to. What is fun and convenient for me is to have parties at my house, in the entertaining space space that does not require manual labour to reconfigure. I don't care whether you like that or not - I'm not the one who was getting "kind of annoyed" by the preferences of others.
    - viraptor 3y ago
      > Restaurants do not like large groups showing up without reservations, and the cost is wildly different. Keep in mind this cost is compared to an extra or bigger room in your house. You can throw many restaurant parties for the money you'd spend on a larger house. (Invest the difference and the restaurant parties are effectively free)
      - jen20 3y ago
        Sure, you could. I don't really understand what people are imagining here though - it's not like "entertaining space" is some gilded-age ballroom for most people making this choice, and the price difference matters if and only if there is an otherwise comparable house you can buy that meets your other constraints.
        lukas099 3y ago
        Even if you buy a house with an entertaining space, you can use it for something that you do more often. For instance, my house had a 'dining room' but I use it as a music studio/band practice room. This way it gets used every single day.
        cableshaft 3y ago
        Ours is being used as an office right now, and has been like that since 2020. Still has a dining table, but it's pushed up against a window and home to indoor plants right now, and we've gotten rid of the chairs since then (they were old and beaten up anyway). Also I don't think it always makes sense to get a smaller house. We got a smaller house and I kind of regret it now, since housing prices and mortgage rates have shot up so much it's now so much harder to upgrade (and the house we got was intended to be a starter home), and also we'd get so much more if we sold a larger house today than our house now. For example, let's assume prices went up about 50% on average in the past five years for the sake of easy math (not too far from how much my home actually did go up after a reappraisal last year). Buy a house at $300k and it goes up 50% means you can sell it for $450k and make $150k out of it. But buy a $500k home and it goes up 50%, means you can sell it at $750k and made $250k out of it. Granted you're making higher payments that whole time as well but not as much as it went up. That math doesn't make as much sense now, with prices starting to dip a bit and high mortgage rates muting demand somewhat, however.
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gambiting 3y ago
I think it's one of those things that if you don't get it, you don't get it(and that's fine). There is an emotional element to hosting your guests in your own home - if you don't feel that way then well, there's no need to argue about it, no one is right or wrong here.

jen20 3y ago

It requires: - Up front planning - A pub to exist nearby. While I as a presumably fellow Brit would not buy a house without being able to walk to multiple pubs, that is not the common case in the US where I actually live. - The pub to have a room that it rents out. Again, not the common case even in London, let alone in the US. - Your potential guests to be OK with being at a pub. - Potentially childcare. If you have to have your party away from your house, you can't put your kids to bed and return to your guests, you have to go home. That part, if you will pardon my French, really fucking sucks.

lukas099 3y ago
> Up front planning Hosting your own party has a lot more planning. And don't discount the planning that went into obtaining your own party room in the first place. > A pub to exist nearby. While I as a presumably fellow Brit would not buy a house without being able to walk to multiple pubs, that is not the common case in the US where I actually live. Don't get hung up on the 'pub' part. It can be a restaurant, public park, street (block party), arcade, bowling alley, or whatever is fun and convenient for you. It can even be another room in your house. Move some furniture around, put in some speakers, BAM, party room.
- jen20 3y ago
  > Hosting your own party has a lot more planning. It really doesn't. I have a backstock of beer and wine and cheese and a subscription to Apple Music, I can literally do it with 15 minutes notice, and have had plenty of practice at doing so. Most of my neighbours are the same. > a restaurant, public park, street (block party), arcade, bowling alley, or whatever is fun and convenient for you. - Restaurants do not like large groups showing up without reservations, and the cost is wildly different. - Drinking in public parks is not typically permitted, nor is street drinking. - Arcades and bowling alleys are out in the burbs and require driving to. What is fun and convenient for me is to have parties at my house, in the entertaining space space that does not require manual labour to reconfigure. I don't care whether you like that or not - I'm not the one who was getting "kind of annoyed" by the preferences of others.
  - viraptor 3y ago
    > Restaurants do not like large groups showing up without reservations, and the cost is wildly different. Keep in mind this cost is compared to an extra or bigger room in your house. You can throw many restaurant parties for the money you'd spend on a larger house. (Invest the difference and the restaurant parties are effectively free)
    - jen20 3y ago
      Sure, you could. I don't really understand what people are imagining here though - it's not like "entertaining space" is some gilded-age ballroom for most people making this choice, and the price difference matters if and only if there is an otherwise comparable house you can buy that meets your other constraints.
      - lukas099 3y ago
        Even if you buy a house with an entertaining space, you can use it for something that you do more often. For instance, my house had a 'dining room' but I use it as a music studio/band practice room. This way it gets used every single day.
        cableshaft 3y ago
        Ours is being used as an office right now, and has been like that since 2020. Still has a dining table, but it's pushed up against a window and home to indoor plants right now, and we've gotten rid of the chairs since then (they were old and beaten up anyway). Also I don't think it always makes sense to get a smaller house. We got a smaller house and I kind of regret it now, since housing prices and mortgage rates have shot up so much it's now so much harder to upgrade (and the house we got was intended to be a starter home), and also we'd get so much more if we sold a larger house today than our house now. For example, let's assume prices went up about 50% on average in the past five years for the sake of easy math (not too far from how much my home actually did go up after a reappraisal last year). Buy a house at $300k and it goes up 50% means you can sell it for $450k and make $150k out of it. But buy a $500k home and it goes up 50%, means you can sell it at $750k and made $250k out of it. Granted you're making higher payments that whole time as well but not as much as it went up. That math doesn't make as much sense now, with prices starting to dip a bit and high mortgage rates muting demand somewhat, however.

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gambiting 3y ago

I think it's one of those things that if you don't get it, you don't get it(and that's fine). There is an emotional element to hosting your guests in your own home - if you don't feel that way then well, there's no need to argue about it, no one is right or wrong here.