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Firefox engineering is in a pretty good spot. What they need now is clout and market share to bring in income and brand awareness. I'm not sure how else to achi

Firefox engineering is in a pretty good spot. What they need now is clout and market share to bring in income and brand awareness. I'm not sure how else to achieve that? They need people to associate them with being the good stewards. Best way to do that is to be a good steward. https://treeherder.mozilla.org/perfherder/graphs?timerange=31536000&series=mozilla-central,3735773,1,13&series=mozilla-central,3412459,1,13 https://treeherder.mozilla.org/perfherder/graphs?timerange=3...

chii 3y ago
> They need people to associate them with being the good stewards nobody cares about good web stewardship. Actual people care about performance, ease of use, integration, and capability. And chrome is already good enough now-a-days, which means it takes a huge improvement to firefox for people to switch (not to mention an advertising drive when those improvements come about). There's a reason why Dvorak keyboard isn't more popular than qwerty, even tho Dvorak is slightly better.
- vimwizard 3y ago
  Switching from chrome to Firefox isn't the same as switching from qwerty to Dvorak.
  - yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago
    Agreed; it's more like turning caps lock into ctrl; not zero friction, but pretty close and much nicer.
- COGlory 3y ago
  >nobody cares about good web stewardship. The EU has passed many digital protection laws. Some US states have down the same. Trust in these big tech companies has cratered.
boomboomsubban 3y ago
>Firefox engineering is in a pretty good spot It is strange that a moron surrounded by morons taking Firefox solely in non-good directions could accomplish that.
- COGlory 3y ago
  Firefox would be better off if it was technically a worse browser but more relevant. The function (and central marketing claim) of Mozilla and Firefox is that it is an alternative to big tech controlling the entire internet. It has completely failed at that mission. At one point, it was failing because engineering. 10 years later they've finally corrected that, about 8 years to late, and at the cost of tying themselves to Google and losing all their relevance. Again, this is a zero sum game. Firefox only has value as an alternative to big tech if it has enough relevance to prevent Google and Microsoft from abandoning standards. And it has failed spectacularly in that arena. It spent all its relevance, has failed to recoup it, and is now reliant on Google to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars solely to pay the bills. Mitchell has been at the helm for nothing short of an unmitigated disaster.

chii 3y ago

> They need people to associate them with being the good stewards nobody cares about good web stewardship. Actual people care about performance, ease of use, integration, and capability. And chrome is already good enough now-a-days, which means it takes a huge improvement to firefox for people to switch (not to mention an advertising drive when those improvements come about). There's a reason why Dvorak keyboard isn't more popular than qwerty, even tho Dvorak is slightly better.

vimwizard 3y ago
Switching from chrome to Firefox isn't the same as switching from qwerty to Dvorak.
- yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago
  Agreed; it's more like turning caps lock into ctrl; not zero friction, but pretty close and much nicer.
COGlory 3y ago
>nobody cares about good web stewardship. The EU has passed many digital protection laws. Some US states have down the same. Trust in these big tech companies has cratered.

boomboomsubban 3y ago

>Firefox engineering is in a pretty good spot It is strange that a moron surrounded by morons taking Firefox solely in non-good directions could accomplish that.

COGlory 3y ago
Firefox would be better off if it was technically a worse browser but more relevant. The function (and central marketing claim) of Mozilla and Firefox is that it is an alternative to big tech controlling the entire internet. It has completely failed at that mission. At one point, it was failing because engineering. 10 years later they've finally corrected that, about 8 years to late, and at the cost of tying themselves to Google and losing all their relevance. Again, this is a zero sum game. Firefox only has value as an alternative to big tech if it has enough relevance to prevent Google and Microsoft from abandoning standards. And it has failed spectacularly in that arena. It spent all its relevance, has failed to recoup it, and is now reliant on Google to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars solely to pay the bills. Mitchell has been at the helm for nothing short of an unmitigated disaster.