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And how does that raise compare with other CEOs of similar organizations? Not that I think CEOs are worth their ludicrous salaries. It's just that the anti-div

And how does that raise compare with other CEOs of similar organizations? Not that I think CEOs are worth their ludicrous salaries. It's just that the anti-diversity crowd loves to attack any organization they set their sights on for being "too progressive". So it's relevant to know whether this really is extraordinary.

MBCook 3y ago
While you’re right about that, the fact that they seem to have been trending downward for a very long time suggests they need someone new, whoever it is, and at a minimum should not be encouraging the current CEO with a raise. FF seems to be in serious trouble. The money mostly seems to go to a lot of different things that keep changing that are not the one thing that people use and want.
- pseudalopex 3y ago
  > The money mostly seems to go to a lot of different things that keep changing that are not the one thing that people use and want. What do you believe they spend more on than Firefox?
COGlory 3y ago
What is another similar organization?
- terminous 3y ago
  For all the valid criticism of the Wikipedia Foundation, their combined salaries of all "officers, directors, trustees, and key employees" (aka board and C suite) was $4.2 million in 2021 Page 12 of https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/foundation/1/14/Wikimedia_Foundation_2021_Form_990.pdf https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/foundation/1/14/Wikim...
wkat4242 3y ago
Mozilla deserves a lot of criticism. It doesn't need the anti diversity crowd for that. It's its own worst enemy right now (and it really starts with Baker). Diversity (which I really support) has nothing to do with it. What they have to do is put firefox back on the map. They deserve criticism for not doing that and for failing at their mission of an open web.
lolinder 3y ago
The hate for Mozilla on HN has very little to do with diversity and almost everything to do with people who want Firefox to keep Chrome at bay and are frustrated at Mozilla's paying attention to everything but Firefox. Mozilla feels the need to jump on every new tech fad instead of focusing their efforts on making a really great, sustainable browser, which is what I personally wish was their core mission.
times_trw 3y ago
How does that compare to a company which has lost 95% of their market share in the last 15 years?
mardifoufs 3y ago
Siding with a millionaire CEO to own the anti wokes is quite a take. Also, even if her peers were just as well paid, it's well known and normal for not for profits to pay a lot less than "private" for profit businesses. Expecting non profit CEOs to have a salary that trends similarly to those in big/mid tech is a bit weird, why not just go work for big tech if she is on the same level as her well paid peers? Also even for a non profit, it's a bit... brazen to still keep increasing the already massive salary even when clearly the organization is doing a lot worse in terms of meeting its own objectives than before.

MBCook 3y ago

While you’re right about that, the fact that they seem to have been trending downward for a very long time suggests they need someone new, whoever it is, and at a minimum should not be encouraging the current CEO with a raise. FF seems to be in serious trouble. The money mostly seems to go to a lot of different things that keep changing that are not the one thing that people use and want.

pseudalopex 3y ago
> The money mostly seems to go to a lot of different things that keep changing that are not the one thing that people use and want. What do you believe they spend more on than Firefox?

COGlory 3y ago

What is another similar organization?

terminous 3y ago
For all the valid criticism of the Wikipedia Foundation, their combined salaries of all "officers, directors, trustees, and key employees" (aka board and C suite) was $4.2 million in 2021 Page 12 of https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/foundation/1/14/Wikimedia_Foundation_2021_Form_990.pdf https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/foundation/1/14/Wikim...

wkat4242 3y ago

Mozilla deserves a lot of criticism. It doesn't need the anti diversity crowd for that. It's its own worst enemy right now (and it really starts with Baker). Diversity (which I really support) has nothing to do with it. What they have to do is put firefox back on the map. They deserve criticism for not doing that and for failing at their mission of an open web.

lolinder 3y ago

The hate for Mozilla on HN has very little to do with diversity and almost everything to do with people who want Firefox to keep Chrome at bay and are frustrated at Mozilla's paying attention to everything but Firefox. Mozilla feels the need to jump on every new tech fad instead of focusing their efforts on making a really great, sustainable browser, which is what I personally wish was their core mission.

times_trw 3y ago

How does that compare to a company which has lost 95% of their market share in the last 15 years?

mardifoufs 3y ago

Siding with a millionaire CEO to own the anti wokes is quite a take. Also, even if her peers were just as well paid, it's well known and normal for not for profits to pay a lot less than "private" for profit businesses. Expecting non profit CEOs to have a salary that trends similarly to those in big/mid tech is a bit weird, why not just go work for big tech if she is on the same level as her well paid peers? Also even for a non profit, it's a bit... brazen to still keep increasing the already massive salary even when clearly the organization is doing a lot worse in terms of meeting its own objectives than before.