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Speed and scale also makes the printing press completely different than the pencil, but the principle that the user is responsible for the output remains practi

by cwillu 3y ago

Speed and scale also makes the printing press completely different than the pencil, but the principle that the user is responsible for the output remains practical.

ziddoap 3y ago
My opinion is that people should just state that conclusion rather than make these silly comparisons.
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- exe34 3y ago
  Not everybody thinks in the same way. Some, maybe most people benefit from intuition pumps such as analogies. Good analogies clarify the point, poor ones obscure it.
  - ziddoap 3y ago
    >Good analogies clarify the point, poor ones obscure it. I definitely agree with this, but I think a "good analogy" is really rare. In this case, I think that the analogy just obscures the main point about copyright. I think the original comment would have been stronger by omitting the analogy and just discussing where the legal responsibility falls. In almost every case an analogy is made, people discuss the validity of the analogy over the actual point of the comment (I'm guilty here too! my comment ended up being about the analogy rather than the main point).
ben_w 3y ago
The printing press also indirectly triggered the Reformation, and through that the Thirty Years' War and the Eighty Years' War, and through all those together the invention of the concept of Westphalian sovereignty. And in the UK the "Licensing of the Press Act 1662" (full title "An Act for preventing the frequent Abuses in printing seditious treasonable and unlicensed Bookes and Pamphlets and for regulating of Printing and Printing Presses" so guess what they cared about here). While the ideals of freedom these brought may be desirable, we may want to avoid repeating the bloodshed from this particular bit of history. And that goes double for anyone in government who takes personal exception to being treated like French royalty.

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Speed and scale also makes the printing press completely different than the pencil, but the principle that the user is responsible for the output remains practi

by cwillu 3y ago

Speed and scale also makes the printing press completely different than the pencil, but the principle that the user is responsible for the output remains practical.

ziddoap 3y ago
My opinion is that people should just state that conclusion rather than make these silly comparisons.
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- exe34 3y ago
  Not everybody thinks in the same way. Some, maybe most people benefit from intuition pumps such as analogies. Good analogies clarify the point, poor ones obscure it.
  - ziddoap 3y ago
    >Good analogies clarify the point, poor ones obscure it. I definitely agree with this, but I think a "good analogy" is really rare. In this case, I think that the analogy just obscures the main point about copyright. I think the original comment would have been stronger by omitting the analogy and just discussing where the legal responsibility falls. In almost every case an analogy is made, people discuss the validity of the analogy over the actual point of the comment (I'm guilty here too! my comment ended up being about the analogy rather than the main point).
ben_w 3y ago
The printing press also indirectly triggered the Reformation, and through that the Thirty Years' War and the Eighty Years' War, and through all those together the invention of the concept of Westphalian sovereignty. And in the UK the "Licensing of the Press Act 1662" (full title "An Act for preventing the frequent Abuses in printing seditious treasonable and unlicensed Bookes and Pamphlets and for regulating of Printing and Printing Presses" so guess what they cared about here). While the ideals of freedom these brought may be desirable, we may want to avoid repeating the bloodshed from this particular bit of history. And that goes double for anyone in government who takes personal exception to being treated like French royalty.