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>All 379 passengers and crew of a Japan Airlines plane escaped a devastating fire that erupted after it collided with a smaller Coast Guard aircraft at Tokyo’s

>All 379 passengers and crew of a Japan Airlines plane escaped a devastating fire that erupted after it collided with a smaller Coast Guard aircraft at Tokyo’s Haneda airport on Tuesday. That's 379 lives saved, is the number not important, or is it the ratio?

reactordev 3y ago
It should have been 384. If 10,000 people die but 1,000,000 are "saved", do we not mourn the 10,000 people? Have a heart my man. What if you were one of those 10,000?
- RHSeeger 3y ago
  If a "normal" outcome for such an event would have been much closer to 1,000,000 being killed, then yes it would be wonderful if 990,000 were saved. Sure, we mourn the dead, but we can still be happy for the saved.
  - adastra22 3y ago
    Still, the word miracle would be inappropriate.
  - reactordev 3y ago
    wonderful for sure, but not a miracle. A miracle would be "all 1,000,000 people survived". Media likes to throw words with weight behind things without. It's not a miracle, it's extremely fortunate. However, any loss of life due to preventable disaster is/should be - unacceptable. The coast guard aircraft crewmen that were struck shouldn't have been near the runway at all. They should have waived off to go-around or been better at ground operations to make sure the runways were clear.
    - RHSeeger 3y ago
      > It's not a miracle, it's extremely fortunate. Depends on your definition. From https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/miracle https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/miracle miracle 1. an extraordinary event manifesting divine intervention in human affairs the healing miracles described in the Gospels 2. an extremely outstanding or unusual event, thing, or accomplishment The bridge is a miracle of engineering. 3. Christian Science : a divinely natural phenomenon experienced humanly as the fulfillment of spiritual law Most of the people surviving an event where they would have been expected to die certainly qualifies as "an extremely outstanding or unusual event, thing, or accomplishment".

reactordev 3y ago

It should have been 384. If 10,000 people die but 1,000,000 are "saved", do we not mourn the 10,000 people? Have a heart my man. What if you were one of those 10,000?

RHSeeger 3y ago
If a "normal" outcome for such an event would have been much closer to 1,000,000 being killed, then yes it would be wonderful if 990,000 were saved. Sure, we mourn the dead, but we can still be happy for the saved.
- adastra22 3y ago
  Still, the word miracle would be inappropriate.
- reactordev 3y ago
  wonderful for sure, but not a miracle. A miracle would be "all 1,000,000 people survived". Media likes to throw words with weight behind things without. It's not a miracle, it's extremely fortunate. However, any loss of life due to preventable disaster is/should be - unacceptable. The coast guard aircraft crewmen that were struck shouldn't have been near the runway at all. They should have waived off to go-around or been better at ground operations to make sure the runways were clear.
  - RHSeeger 3y ago
    > It's not a miracle, it's extremely fortunate. Depends on your definition. From https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/miracle https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/miracle miracle 1. an extraordinary event manifesting divine intervention in human affairs the healing miracles described in the Gospels 2. an extremely outstanding or unusual event, thing, or accomplishment The bridge is a miracle of engineering. 3. Christian Science : a divinely natural phenomenon experienced humanly as the fulfillment of spiritual law Most of the people surviving an event where they would have been expected to die certainly qualifies as "an extremely outstanding or unusual event, thing, or accomplishment".