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I really want the Ryzen Embedded and or Epyc 3000(?) series that has dual 10gbe on package for something like a NAS but both are super expensive or impossible t
by hypercube33 3y ago
I really want the Ryzen Embedded and or Epyc 3000(?) series that has dual 10gbe on package for something like a NAS but both are super expensive or impossible to find.
- ThatMedicIsASpy 3y agoAsRock Rack B650D4U-2L2T/BCM, 2x10G, 2x1G, IPMI For less power consumption Ryzen 8000 is coming up (wait for Jan 8th, CES) and the APU tend to be monolithic and draw a lot less power than the chiplets.
- tw04 3y agoEven that uses Broadcom 10gbe, not the embedded AMD Ethernet. It’s really strange, I can only assume there’s something fatally wrong with the AMD Ethernet.
- AdrianB1 3y agoOr it just tells the customers of this kind of equipment want proven solutions instead of other (novelty) options, so the manufacturers build their products with that in mind. Stability and support are very important to most buyers.
- tw04 3y agoIf that were the case I’d expect to still see at least SOME products utilizing the AMD chipset, even if budget focused. I have literally not seen a single board from any MFG that utilizes the built in NIC. Heck there are Intel Xeon-d chipsets that utilize both the onboard NIC and external Broadcom to get 4x for cheap.
- formerly_proven 3y agoThat's because neither AM4 nor AM5 include provisions for a NIC (MAC) on the SoC. Afaik the chipsets don't, either. Intel chipsets generally have a gigabit MAC, but this is rarely used (apparently it specifically requires an Intel PHY and that's more expensive than a complete NIC from say Realtek). Only the Embedded chips have MACs built in.
- j45 3y agoIt may be possible to install, or add an external 2.5 or 10GbE device. Either way, it's awful there is not more 10 GbE connectivity available default. There's no reason it shouldn't be the next level up, we have been at 1 / 2.5 for far too long.
- ThatMedicIsASpy 3y agoYou can find what you desire but you always have to pay for it. ASUS ProArt X670E-Creator WIFI, 10G & 2.5G at 460€ 10G simply isn't that cheap. The cheapest 5 port switch is 220€. Upgrading my home net would be rather expensive.
- vetinari 3y agoWhat makes is more expensive is insisting on 10GBase-T. 10G over SFP+ is not that expensive; the cheapest 4 port switch (Mikrotik CRS305) is ~130 EUR.
- selectodude 3y agoOptics aren’t free either.
- j45 3y agoI’m currently working through this. My fibre internet is faster than the 2.5 GbE. A UDM-Pro could be added to the mix but simply pushes the issue out. A used datacenter/server grade SFP+ switch could be the way to go but have to get up to speed on the basics of the equipment I’d need. Open to ideas and suggestions!