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> Any country that invades is going to be seen as responsible for fixing that mess Unless the invading country is Israel.

• bawolff 3y ago
  Israel gets yelled at by the UN pretty constantly. If anything that statement applies to Israel more than most countries.
  • Aeolun 3y ago
    I guess I read it more as ‘actually holding them responsible’ than occasionally (or constantly) yelling at them, since that is kinda pointless.
    • JumpCrisscross 3y ago
      > read it more as ‘actually holding them responsible’ What about recent events suggests Israel isn’t held, and does not hold itself, responsible for Gaza’s affairs? The principal complaint is that they’re holding themselves too responsible.
    • bawolff 3y ago
      On the contrary that type of complaining and soft diplomacy does have a real effect. Israel's isolation on the world stage informs a lot of the decisions israel makes currently and has made in the past that lead to the present day. Its not a "do this or else" sort of thing, but it definitely has had a major effect on regional politics. Arguably one of the main causes of the current war is israel-saudi normalisation. So you could say that this yelling is so important to some factions that arab countries backing away from it triggered a major war.
      • Aeolun 3y ago
        > On the contrary that type of complaining and soft diplomacy does have a real effect. It’s had a mild effect on Russia, and they’re basically a pariah. You can’t tell me it has a significant effect on Israel.
• p3rls 3y ago
  They are very much "seen" as being responsible-- it's the reason they have 50x more news coverage of this conflict while thousands of muslims are right now dying allover africa and asia. They'll go to the grave without a peep from the international press or righteous online types.
• pvaldes 3y ago
  The hit to its international tourism, and the public image damage has been devastating.