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My view into the issue like this: Until this is part of state education (i.e. nutrition, exercise, stoicism, personal care, hygiene - Whatever - are 'appropriat

My view into the issue like this: Until this is part of state education (i.e. nutrition, exercise, stoicism, personal care, hygiene - Whatever - are 'appropriately' into syllabuses), we can't expect everyone to take care of themselves. 1. There will always be parents/guardians that are unable to teach this - That's why the education and children arm of government exists. 2. Ignorance IS an excuse here (people can't know that they don't know, if they don't even know that they SHOULD know!) 3. Even if we were to clamp down on unhealthy food advertising etc., our bodies still crave sugar binging etc. So regardless of success in that area, state education is still the keystone. But that's it... I just don't know where to go from there. Is state education getting better at teaching these life skills over time? (Personal finance too, while we are at it). Are there things I could be doing to amplify this message? Is this the correct angle, even? Congratulations on such a massive achievement by the way!

nyokodo 3y ago
> Until this is part of state education State sex education has been saturating youth in all the sex related artificial interventions while treating self-control as unrealistic at best and religious nonsense at worst. When do you think we’ll get an eruption of stoic self denial virtue from the state?
- chris-orgmenta 3y ago
  I'm not optimistic, no. Not sure what nation's syllabus you refer to though, I would guess that it is USA based (edited because my wording seemed weird and pointed)
  - nyokodo 3y ago
    > Not sure what nation's syllabus you refer to though There’s no need to bring gender ideology into this, the analogy is perfectly valid just referring to prophylaxis, hormonal medication, implants, and abortion. Those are commonly taught in schools around the globe.
    - chris-orgmenta 3y ago
      Thanks for clarifying and apologies for misunderstanding. I'm pro-sex-ed but not sure what that looks like in your locale.
- orwin 3y ago
  > treating self-control as unrealistic at best and religious nonsense at worst. What? US sex education advice is to be forceful and rapey because 'guys can't control themselves' or any other bullshit reason like this?

nyokodo 3y ago

> Until this is part of state education State sex education has been saturating youth in all the sex related artificial interventions while treating self-control as unrealistic at best and religious nonsense at worst. When do you think we’ll get an eruption of stoic self denial virtue from the state?

chris-orgmenta 3y ago
I'm not optimistic, no. Not sure what nation's syllabus you refer to though, I would guess that it is USA based (edited because my wording seemed weird and pointed)
- nyokodo 3y ago
  > Not sure what nation's syllabus you refer to though There’s no need to bring gender ideology into this, the analogy is perfectly valid just referring to prophylaxis, hormonal medication, implants, and abortion. Those are commonly taught in schools around the globe.
  - chris-orgmenta 3y ago
    Thanks for clarifying and apologies for misunderstanding. I'm pro-sex-ed but not sure what that looks like in your locale.
orwin 3y ago
> treating self-control as unrealistic at best and religious nonsense at worst. What? US sex education advice is to be forceful and rapey because 'guys can't control themselves' or any other bullshit reason like this?