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> Toyota-owned automaker This is a bit of a weasel-ish, click-bait title. Calling it Daihatsu would not generate the same outrage, so they try to virtually inf

> Toyota-owned automaker This is a bit of a weasel-ish, click-bait title. Calling it Daihatsu would not generate the same outrage, so they try to virtually inflate the scale of the scandal to a major car manufacturer. Maybe Toyota has their hands dirty, I don't know, and I'd love to know. As it is, that's bordering a little on the wrong side of journalistic integrity.

giarc 3y ago
So probably better would be "Daihatsu, maker of Toyota vehicles, tampered with safety tests for 30 years"
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- TheCapeGreek 3y ago
  Daihatsu is its own brand.
  - cwillu 3y ago
    That was my impression, but apparently they're also sold with a Toyota badge on them, which somewhat changes my feelings on the matter.
  - giarc 3y ago
    The report here (https://www.daihatsu.com/news/2023/report_1_E.pdf https://www.daihatsu.com/news/2023/report_1_E.pdf) lists Toyota Yaris, Toyota RAIZE HEV, Toyota Agya, Toyota Pixis Joy, Toyota Pixis Truck, Toyota Roomy, and Toyota Tank all affected.
csande17 3y ago
> The scandal is another blow to the automaker, which had admitted in April to violating standards on crash tests on more than 88,000 cars, mostly sold under the Toyota brand in countries such as Malaysia and Thailand. Seems fair to mention Toyota in the headline, since that was the brand name people thought they were buying when they got one of these cars.
woodruffw 3y ago
> Calling it Daihatsu would not generate the same outrage, so they try to virtually inflate the scale of the scandal to a major car manufacturer. I think this is probably because most news readers don't know the name Daihatsu, not because they're trying to inflate the scandal.
to11mtm 3y ago
They've had a majority ownership for 25 years and their own internal controls failed to catch this on cars that are being sold as Toyota's. Seems plenty fair to me.
- lokar 3y ago
  And they make cars sold as Toyota
hilux 3y ago
When you own a company, you're responsible for that company's actions. There's no "maybe" about it. Daihatsu is Toyota. You'd have more of a point if the acquisition had happened this year, but Toyota took majority ownership in 1998.
wlonkly 3y ago
I thought it was clickbait too, until I realized it was Daihatsu, which is all but unknown in the US where CNN is based. But then I realized that "Toyota-owned automaker Daihatsu tampered..." would work and now I think it's clickbait again.

giarc 3y ago

So probably better would be "Daihatsu, maker of Toyota vehicles, tampered with safety tests for 30 years"

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TheCapeGreek 3y ago
Daihatsu is its own brand.
- cwillu 3y ago
  That was my impression, but apparently they're also sold with a Toyota badge on them, which somewhat changes my feelings on the matter.
- giarc 3y ago
  The report here (https://www.daihatsu.com/news/2023/report_1_E.pdf https://www.daihatsu.com/news/2023/report_1_E.pdf) lists Toyota Yaris, Toyota RAIZE HEV, Toyota Agya, Toyota Pixis Joy, Toyota Pixis Truck, Toyota Roomy, and Toyota Tank all affected.

csande17 3y ago

> The scandal is another blow to the automaker, which had admitted in April to violating standards on crash tests on more than 88,000 cars, mostly sold under the Toyota brand in countries such as Malaysia and Thailand. Seems fair to mention Toyota in the headline, since that was the brand name people thought they were buying when they got one of these cars.

woodruffw 3y ago

> Calling it Daihatsu would not generate the same outrage, so they try to virtually inflate the scale of the scandal to a major car manufacturer. I think this is probably because most news readers don't know the name Daihatsu, not because they're trying to inflate the scandal.

to11mtm 3y ago

They've had a majority ownership for 25 years and their own internal controls failed to catch this on cars that are being sold as Toyota's. Seems plenty fair to me.

lokar 3y ago
And they make cars sold as Toyota

hilux 3y ago

When you own a company, you're responsible for that company's actions. There's no "maybe" about it. Daihatsu is Toyota. You'd have more of a point if the acquisition had happened this year, but Toyota took majority ownership in 1998.

wlonkly 3y ago

I thought it was clickbait too, until I realized it was Daihatsu, which is all but unknown in the US where CNN is based. But then I realized that "Toyota-owned automaker Daihatsu tampered..." would work and now I think it's clickbait again.