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I switched back to firefox last year and haven't looked back. I still use chrome on another laptop sometimes, the performance difference from my human perspecti

I switched back to firefox last year and haven't looked back. I still use chrome on another laptop sometimes, the performance difference from my human perspective is literally zero. These days, it's much more common for me to encounter a website that works in firefox but not chrome than the other way around. I actually switched for good when I had to use firefox to file my taxes, because the IRS free self-file site was hopelessly broken on chrome.

cmrdporcupine 3y ago
The only site I've found behaves terribly in Firefox is LinkedIn. Weird pauses on page load that lock the whole browser (not just the tab) for like 5-10 seconds. No idea what they're doing to make this happen, but it's odd. Which is, well, fine, because LinkedIn is mostly a dumpster anyways.
- boringuser2 3y ago
  Any site that is on the edge of performance (often due to bad engineering, which you can blame on time constraints) will perform vastly better in Chromium.
  - cmrdporcupine 3y ago
    I don't much care, TBH. Having worked in the Chromium codebase before, I know what an absolutely mammoth amount of engineering hours goes into that. V8 on its own is a technological miracle. But all funded by a firehose of crazy privacy invading ad revenue. So. I'll live with the odd pause and a bit of battery drain. I gave Google 10 years of my life as an employee in exchange for $$, I'm not interested in giving them the rest of my life for free.
    - boringuser2 3y ago
      I get it, it's a nice story, but here's a nice little life-hack: What if you could take the benefits of the spending and jettison the side-effects? It's called Brave, they have their own ad blocker in the source code written in C, so it can't be hamstrung.
      - cmrdporcupine 3y ago
        Crypto crap, no thanks.
        boringuser2 3y ago
        This isn't an intelligent statement. I have used Brave for years and literally never see anything related to "crypto".
      - RunSet 3y ago
        If you're trying to go "chrome but better" than Brave is a move in the wrong direction, given its bundled cryptocurrency and ad platform. Perhaps you haven't heard of Chromium. If so, that may be because Chromium doesn't spend as much on marketing as Brave. https://www.chromium.org/getting-involved/download-chromium/ https://www.chromium.org/getting-involved/download-chromium/
        cmrdporcupine 3y ago
        It's funny because I worked in that repository for a few years, and routinely built a custom "shell" (what Chromecast is) and when this guy suggested Brave my thought was... eh, yeah, sure, but I could also just roll my own or just run stock chromium :-) I personally like that Firefox isn't based on webkit/blink.
  - toyg 3y ago
    Social networks really have no business being "on the edge of performance", FFS.
    - munk-a 3y ago
      Look, Google and Facebook are just mom and pop businesses - they can't afford to support all these fancy browsers! (I absolutely agree - especially when it's google turning off features when you're using FF... it feels blatantly anticompetitive).
    - boringuser2 3y ago
      Okay, well, they're using React and most React engineers aren't very good so it ends up being a clusterfuck that most people don't even notice given how well Chromium is optimized.
- pmontra 3y ago
  This prompted me to check LinkedIn after months of having it parked in a tab and it worked with no problems. When I have problems with a site it's usually because I'm blocking most JavaScript with uMatrix and I have to find the correct combination of scripts to make the site work for me without having to give away my soul to the gods of tracking. As a software developer, it's been years since a customer told me that the sites I develop on Firefox don't work on Chrome or Safari. I don't even bother to check anymore. I couldn't check with Safari anyway and they are OK with that. The point is that if it works in Firefox it works everywhere. Of course we're not using any Chrome-only API but we never had to use one of them as far as I can remember.
  - Valord 3y ago
    Also checked LinkedIn, no issues in FF on a mid-2014 mbp.
  - cmrdporcupine 3y ago
    Ubuntu 23.10 on Wayland, Firefox 119.0 from Snap, only extensions are uBlock Origin and Bitwarden. Long weird pause.
- whalesalad 3y ago
  Bigquery studio is an absolute dog in Firefox even on S-tier desktop hardware. It works better in chrome. Go figure.
krastanov 3y ago
Firefox out of the box indeed does not cause broken websites. However, the demographic of this forum probably will use Firefox with "Multi-Account Containers", "Temporary Containers", "uBlock Origin", and a few more. These are amazing for privacy and productivity, but will occasionally cause broken websites. Source: I am a Firefox-first user who occasionally uses plugin-less Chrome because the aforementioned plugins (and "ClearURLs", "Consent-o-matic", and a few others) occasionally break websites.
- eptcyka 3y ago
  Temporary and Multi-Account containers do not break websites.
- squidbeak 3y ago
  I don't mind breaking websites, if I can fix them on my own terms.
- closewith 3y ago
  Nah, there's plenty of examples of sites breaking on Firefox. For example, the recent degraded performance on Youtube linked to Firefox User Agent strings.
  - culi 3y ago
    Yeah but that's not on Mozilla in any way. That's just Google's anti-competitive practices. Firefox refuses to jump on Google's attempts to ban adblockers with Manifest V3 so Google wants to punish them
    - behnamoh 3y ago
      What matters for the end user is the experience. If using FF will lead to a poor experience on certain websites, then why recommend it? Do people honestly believe that if they keep recommending FF, people will magically switch to FF and Google will be forced to stop its anti-competitive practices?
ncgl 3y ago
This is a funny comment - why'd you leave Firefox to have to come back to it?
- voakbasda 3y ago
  If GP is anything like me, they used Firefox before Chrome was released. The Mozilla/Netscape suite that spawned Firefox is older than Google itself. For a time, Firefox performed worse than a rabid dog. Chrome ate their lunch and gained market share fast. I and many of my colleagues switched around that time.
  - jcalvinowens 3y ago
    This exactly, I should've added that context
  - shermantanktop 3y ago
    That’s what I did.
  - goku12 3y ago
    > Chrome ate their lunch and gained market share fast. That isn't the main reason they gained market share fast. It's sabotage: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1116871245021220875.html https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1116871245021220875.html
- mrweasel 3y ago
  In my case: Because Opera stopped using Presto and switched to Chromium. That does says a bit about when I switched. I used Firefox pretty extensively, then switch to Chrome when Firefox fell behind on speed, but the developer tools absolutely sucks in Chrome, so I tried Opera which had a great feature set, speed and wonderful developer tools. It was a pretty sad day when Opera dropped Presto, and more so when they where bought by some Chinese company.
jjice 3y ago
I've been using FireFox for about 4.5 years now, but I have to have Chrome installed for a few reasons unfortunately. - Some websites still will just not work in FireFox. It's not super common anymore, but if I sense something is fishy, I pop open the console and see some strange error and swap over to Chrome. Things will just work then. All extensions disabled even. I even ran into this on Vanguard's website, albeit for some obscure forms. - When I worked at a company that had a larger web app presence, I would have to test in Chrome. That's a given, but my Chrome counterparts did not do the same with FireFox. I would fairly regularly (few times a quarter) find things that were completely broked on FireFox. All that said, I don't really care about my choice in browser very much, but I'd rather support Mozilla over Google still. Especially since they're the only non-Chromium and v8 engine out there aside from Safari, which is also owned by a massive for profit company. I'd like to help support a more open web, even if it's just a little bit.
- bradly 3y ago
  > Some websites still will just not work in FireFox I run into this as well, but I just use Safari as my backup browser and that usually is good enough. The only thing I still need to use Chrome for is my Nest thermostat.
- vehemenz 3y ago
  > Especially since they're the only non-Chromium and v8 engine out there aside from Safari, which is also owned by a massive for profit company. You know, it's not necessarily a bad thing that another enormous company is competing with Chrome. It might be less than ideal than Firefox having Safari's share, but it still eats at Google's monopoly more effectively.
- angra_mainyu 3y ago
  Unfortunately I had to move over to Vivaldi after using Firefox more than a decade due to performance. On Linux, it consumes so much memory it actually slows down my machine...
dylanz 3y ago
I unfortunately switched back to Chrome last week after having used Firefox for years due to not being able to use sites I frequent. I constantly ran into issues with Heroku, GCP (go figure), and a few financial sites I'd log into regularly.
- tass 3y ago
  I know it’s mentioned elsewhere, but this does it for me: * Try the same site in a private window (assuming plugins are disabled when in private) * If on dev or nightly, try those sites on the regular release. I haven’t bumped into anything in GCP that fails to work on ff, though likely don’t use the console as extensively.
- Tagbert 3y ago
  What do those sites say about the problem when you report the error to them? Do any of them acknowledge their error?
- gitaarik 3y ago
  did you check if you have any funky plugins enabled?
behnamoh 3y ago
>\ Hot take: I tried FF for a long time but finally switched to Brave. Yes, I'll be downvoted for saying this but it's objectively one of my top 3 favorite browsers rn. 1. Brave 2. Edge 3. Safari I like each of them for different reasons. Brave (after disabling annoying features such as crypto and VPN) is awesome and its iOS app is the only one which can play videos in the background, has dark mode, and syncs really well with the desktop app. Edge is so tempting esp. with recent Microsoft Copilot which makes it so useful (I can summarize pages right in the browser, organize my tabs by telling so to the Copilot, etc.) Safari is not a good browser per se and lacks many features and plugins, but it's minimal and doesn't drain the battery like Brave and FF. I really wanted to like FF but it's just not cutting it anymore.
- colordrops 3y ago
  I use FF on my desktop and Brave on mobile. I tried FF on mobile and it has too many issues, unlike its desktop counterpart. And there are no good maintained de-googled chromium alternatives on Android other than Brave.
- trts 3y ago
  Brave is really good and always surprising me with features while largely staying lean and out of my way. They recently added a chatbot that runs locally they call Leo based on llama2. It's pretty impressive that you can perform LLM tasks on the current page without the use of any 3rd party service. And of course you can pay them for the souped up version. https://brave.com/leo-release/ https://brave.com/leo-release/ Feels like I am alone in thinking the crypto features of Brave are cool. And not because I think that industry generally isn't full of slime. But micropayments for content has been a good, latent idea for a generation, and here they've simply built it as a default feature. I still use FF and Brave equally because of my experience with the first browser wars and my mistrust of Chrome, having become the new IE.
  - edgan 3y ago
    I have tried Brave multiple times. I find its desktop version as bad or worse than Firefox for things not working or bugginess. I have used Brave more on Android. I have bounced between Firefox, Brave, and custom builds of Chromium for years. I am currently on Firefox.
buffalobuffalo 3y ago
I just switched back to firefox yesterday. Not a long sample period, but so far I completely agree, less painful than chrome.
szundi 3y ago
Firefox became better, Chrome became worse. Every week one time I have to start Chrome for something.
- sparrish 3y ago
  I've been using Chrome for years and I never have to start Firefox for something.
  - bee_rider 3y ago
    Same, but other way around. Don’t even have Chrome installed. I don’t know what websites people are using, but I’m glad to not need them. The idea that a site could fail to render on any reasonably common browser seems pretty absurd.
    - trolan 3y ago
      The few times Firefox hasn't worked is on incredibly niche and outdated sites like a local kennel to board my dog or my university parking system. Edge works fine in those incredibly rare instances since I can't get it off my computer anyway. I think I have one
DrBazza 3y ago
Chrome is the new IE6
- gitaarik 3y ago
  We need an updated version of this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sKppwrLBY8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sKppwrLBY8
mikepurvis 3y ago
I'm a FF-first user but I definitely have had to keep Chrome around for a few things— my investment banking doesn't load in FF nor do some parts of Office 365.
- cycomanic 3y ago
  Which parts of office365? I don't have any issues using it on FF. That said I'm not a heavy user (mainly outlook, word, sometimes PowerPoint).
  - mikepurvis 3y ago
    Teams maybe? Tbh I'm not totally sure as I'm new to office so I don't spend a lot of time trying to make it work when it's being hinky.
dspillett 3y ago
I'm fully switching to FF at home now. I'd half done it but had a large collection of tabs open in Chrome which kept pulling me back as I couldn't be bothered with reassessing them all (a fair I should have closed) and recording the ones I still wanted to keep elsewhere. Chrome gave me the final push the other day by completely forgetting most of those open items during an update. I'd not encountered anything broken in Chrome that was fixed by FF though. I'll still be primarily Chrome in DayJob though, as most of our clients' users are (with some on Edge, a few using FF, and a couple of idiots still not off IE though we don't officially support that) so that makes sense even though I very rarely touch anything front-end these days.
- r3d0c 3y ago
  one-tab or supatabs extensions
  - dspillett 3y ago
    SuperTabs is Chrom{e|ium} only which doesn't help as I'm moving to FF. OneTab looks partly useful, but often where I came from is important as well as the current tab location, if I've travelled through links “normally” rather than opening in a new tab every time, and I wouldn't expect it to keep that history. Really, I need to get away from using tabs for long-term state rather than finding a better way to use tabs for that. It would make switching UA easier when I want to, and switching machine too for that matter. Also, I've been burned by tab and/or session management extensions going stalky (TheGreatSuspender & friends), or stagnating and failing after a time. I want to move as much state beyond active interactive use away from the browser. I've never kept passwords there or gone in for built-in sync options, but feel the need to take this further. The older I get, the more I see tight integration as a lock-in rather than a benefit.
scruple 3y ago
I've been using Firefox for regular browsing for years now, but I use Chrome for streaming videos (Firefox streaming quality is noticably worse) and LibreWolf for YouTube (blocks ads). It's annoying to have 3 browsers open basically all of the time.
- mr_spothawk 3y ago
  I'm slowly migrating a lot of my browsing out of Safari and into LibreWolf, and using the opportunity to document accounts/passwords that i want to keep. If i were willing to get an iPhone, then i'd be quite happy with Safari (i don't have Chrome installed on my Mac), but I want the ability to have my bookmarks available on multiple phones & computers... so firefox profiles (in LibreWolf) is the mechanism i've decided to use for that (for now)
toddmorey 3y ago
I love & support Firefox but feel nervous about going all in on it when Mozilla appears to be pivoting away from investing in it.
dheera 3y ago
What would be really cool is a Firefox plugin that allowed you to replace the entire browser tab with a Chromium renderer on a specific website if you so wish, and remember that setting. That way there would really be no need to install Chrome for a few one-off websites. Considering both Firefox and Chromium are open-source it should be entirely possible.
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scotty79 3y ago
Same here. Chrome was just too buggy for me. This year was when I finally made the switch. What helped me was that I switched my phone browser to DuckDuckGo browser. This kind of opened my horizons.

cmrdporcupine 3y ago

The only site I've found behaves terribly in Firefox is LinkedIn. Weird pauses on page load that lock the whole browser (not just the tab) for like 5-10 seconds. No idea what they're doing to make this happen, but it's odd. Which is, well, fine, because LinkedIn is mostly a dumpster anyways.

boringuser2 3y ago
Any site that is on the edge of performance (often due to bad engineering, which you can blame on time constraints) will perform vastly better in Chromium.
- cmrdporcupine 3y ago
  I don't much care, TBH. Having worked in the Chromium codebase before, I know what an absolutely mammoth amount of engineering hours goes into that. V8 on its own is a technological miracle. But all funded by a firehose of crazy privacy invading ad revenue. So. I'll live with the odd pause and a bit of battery drain. I gave Google 10 years of my life as an employee in exchange for $$, I'm not interested in giving them the rest of my life for free.
  - boringuser2 3y ago
    I get it, it's a nice story, but here's a nice little life-hack: What if you could take the benefits of the spending and jettison the side-effects? It's called Brave, they have their own ad blocker in the source code written in C, so it can't be hamstrung.
    - cmrdporcupine 3y ago
      Crypto crap, no thanks.
      - boringuser2 3y ago
        This isn't an intelligent statement. I have used Brave for years and literally never see anything related to "crypto".
    - RunSet 3y ago
      If you're trying to go "chrome but better" than Brave is a move in the wrong direction, given its bundled cryptocurrency and ad platform. Perhaps you haven't heard of Chromium. If so, that may be because Chromium doesn't spend as much on marketing as Brave. https://www.chromium.org/getting-involved/download-chromium/ https://www.chromium.org/getting-involved/download-chromium/
      - cmrdporcupine 3y ago
        It's funny because I worked in that repository for a few years, and routinely built a custom "shell" (what Chromecast is) and when this guy suggested Brave my thought was... eh, yeah, sure, but I could also just roll my own or just run stock chromium :-) I personally like that Firefox isn't based on webkit/blink.
- toyg 3y ago
  Social networks really have no business being "on the edge of performance", FFS.
  - munk-a 3y ago
    Look, Google and Facebook are just mom and pop businesses - they can't afford to support all these fancy browsers! (I absolutely agree - especially when it's google turning off features when you're using FF... it feels blatantly anticompetitive).
  - boringuser2 3y ago
    Okay, well, they're using React and most React engineers aren't very good so it ends up being a clusterfuck that most people don't even notice given how well Chromium is optimized.
pmontra 3y ago
This prompted me to check LinkedIn after months of having it parked in a tab and it worked with no problems. When I have problems with a site it's usually because I'm blocking most JavaScript with uMatrix and I have to find the correct combination of scripts to make the site work for me without having to give away my soul to the gods of tracking. As a software developer, it's been years since a customer told me that the sites I develop on Firefox don't work on Chrome or Safari. I don't even bother to check anymore. I couldn't check with Safari anyway and they are OK with that. The point is that if it works in Firefox it works everywhere. Of course we're not using any Chrome-only API but we never had to use one of them as far as I can remember.
- Valord 3y ago
  Also checked LinkedIn, no issues in FF on a mid-2014 mbp.
- cmrdporcupine 3y ago
  Ubuntu 23.10 on Wayland, Firefox 119.0 from Snap, only extensions are uBlock Origin and Bitwarden. Long weird pause.
whalesalad 3y ago
Bigquery studio is an absolute dog in Firefox even on S-tier desktop hardware. It works better in chrome. Go figure.

krastanov 3y ago

Firefox out of the box indeed does not cause broken websites. However, the demographic of this forum probably will use Firefox with "Multi-Account Containers", "Temporary Containers", "uBlock Origin", and a few more. These are amazing for privacy and productivity, but will occasionally cause broken websites. Source: I am a Firefox-first user who occasionally uses plugin-less Chrome because the aforementioned plugins (and "ClearURLs", "Consent-o-matic", and a few others) occasionally break websites.

eptcyka 3y ago
Temporary and Multi-Account containers do not break websites.
squidbeak 3y ago
I don't mind breaking websites, if I can fix them on my own terms.
closewith 3y ago
Nah, there's plenty of examples of sites breaking on Firefox. For example, the recent degraded performance on Youtube linked to Firefox User Agent strings.
- culi 3y ago
  Yeah but that's not on Mozilla in any way. That's just Google's anti-competitive practices. Firefox refuses to jump on Google's attempts to ban adblockers with Manifest V3 so Google wants to punish them
  - behnamoh 3y ago
    What matters for the end user is the experience. If using FF will lead to a poor experience on certain websites, then why recommend it? Do people honestly believe that if they keep recommending FF, people will magically switch to FF and Google will be forced to stop its anti-competitive practices?

ncgl 3y ago

This is a funny comment - why'd you leave Firefox to have to come back to it?

voakbasda 3y ago
If GP is anything like me, they used Firefox before Chrome was released. The Mozilla/Netscape suite that spawned Firefox is older than Google itself. For a time, Firefox performed worse than a rabid dog. Chrome ate their lunch and gained market share fast. I and many of my colleagues switched around that time.
- jcalvinowens 3y ago
  This exactly, I should've added that context
- shermantanktop 3y ago
  That’s what I did.
- goku12 3y ago
  > Chrome ate their lunch and gained market share fast. That isn't the main reason they gained market share fast. It's sabotage: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1116871245021220875.html https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1116871245021220875.html
mrweasel 3y ago
In my case: Because Opera stopped using Presto and switched to Chromium. That does says a bit about when I switched. I used Firefox pretty extensively, then switch to Chrome when Firefox fell behind on speed, but the developer tools absolutely sucks in Chrome, so I tried Opera which had a great feature set, speed and wonderful developer tools. It was a pretty sad day when Opera dropped Presto, and more so when they where bought by some Chinese company.

jjice 3y ago

I've been using FireFox for about 4.5 years now, but I have to have Chrome installed for a few reasons unfortunately. - Some websites still will just not work in FireFox. It's not super common anymore, but if I sense something is fishy, I pop open the console and see some strange error and swap over to Chrome. Things will just work then. All extensions disabled even. I even ran into this on Vanguard's website, albeit for some obscure forms. - When I worked at a company that had a larger web app presence, I would have to test in Chrome. That's a given, but my Chrome counterparts did not do the same with FireFox. I would fairly regularly (few times a quarter) find things that were completely broked on FireFox. All that said, I don't really care about my choice in browser very much, but I'd rather support Mozilla over Google still. Especially since they're the only non-Chromium and v8 engine out there aside from Safari, which is also owned by a massive for profit company. I'd like to help support a more open web, even if it's just a little bit.

bradly 3y ago
> Some websites still will just not work in FireFox I run into this as well, but I just use Safari as my backup browser and that usually is good enough. The only thing I still need to use Chrome for is my Nest thermostat.
vehemenz 3y ago
> Especially since they're the only non-Chromium and v8 engine out there aside from Safari, which is also owned by a massive for profit company. You know, it's not necessarily a bad thing that another enormous company is competing with Chrome. It might be less than ideal than Firefox having Safari's share, but it still eats at Google's monopoly more effectively.
angra_mainyu 3y ago
Unfortunately I had to move over to Vivaldi after using Firefox more than a decade due to performance. On Linux, it consumes so much memory it actually slows down my machine...

dylanz 3y ago

I unfortunately switched back to Chrome last week after having used Firefox for years due to not being able to use sites I frequent. I constantly ran into issues with Heroku, GCP (go figure), and a few financial sites I'd log into regularly.

tass 3y ago
I know it’s mentioned elsewhere, but this does it for me: * Try the same site in a private window (assuming plugins are disabled when in private) * If on dev or nightly, try those sites on the regular release. I haven’t bumped into anything in GCP that fails to work on ff, though likely don’t use the console as extensively.
Tagbert 3y ago
What do those sites say about the problem when you report the error to them? Do any of them acknowledge their error?
gitaarik 3y ago
did you check if you have any funky plugins enabled?

behnamoh 3y ago

>\ Hot take: I tried FF for a long time but finally switched to Brave. Yes, I'll be downvoted for saying this but it's objectively one of my top 3 favorite browsers rn. 1. Brave 2. Edge 3. Safari I like each of them for different reasons. Brave (after disabling annoying features such as crypto and VPN) is awesome and its iOS app is the only one which can play videos in the background, has dark mode, and syncs really well with the desktop app. Edge is so tempting esp. with recent Microsoft Copilot which makes it so useful (I can summarize pages right in the browser, organize my tabs by telling so to the Copilot, etc.) Safari is not a good browser per se and lacks many features and plugins, but it's minimal and doesn't drain the battery like Brave and FF. I really wanted to like FF but it's just not cutting it anymore.

colordrops 3y ago
I use FF on my desktop and Brave on mobile. I tried FF on mobile and it has too many issues, unlike its desktop counterpart. And there are no good maintained de-googled chromium alternatives on Android other than Brave.
trts 3y ago
Brave is really good and always surprising me with features while largely staying lean and out of my way. They recently added a chatbot that runs locally they call Leo based on llama2. It's pretty impressive that you can perform LLM tasks on the current page without the use of any 3rd party service. And of course you can pay them for the souped up version. https://brave.com/leo-release/ https://brave.com/leo-release/ Feels like I am alone in thinking the crypto features of Brave are cool. And not because I think that industry generally isn't full of slime. But micropayments for content has been a good, latent idea for a generation, and here they've simply built it as a default feature. I still use FF and Brave equally because of my experience with the first browser wars and my mistrust of Chrome, having become the new IE.
- edgan 3y ago
  I have tried Brave multiple times. I find its desktop version as bad or worse than Firefox for things not working or bugginess. I have used Brave more on Android. I have bounced between Firefox, Brave, and custom builds of Chromium for years. I am currently on Firefox.

buffalobuffalo 3y ago

I just switched back to firefox yesterday. Not a long sample period, but so far I completely agree, less painful than chrome.

szundi 3y ago

Firefox became better, Chrome became worse. Every week one time I have to start Chrome for something.

sparrish 3y ago
I've been using Chrome for years and I never have to start Firefox for something.
- bee_rider 3y ago
  Same, but other way around. Don’t even have Chrome installed. I don’t know what websites people are using, but I’m glad to not need them. The idea that a site could fail to render on any reasonably common browser seems pretty absurd.
  - trolan 3y ago
    The few times Firefox hasn't worked is on incredibly niche and outdated sites like a local kennel to board my dog or my university parking system. Edge works fine in those incredibly rare instances since I can't get it off my computer anyway. I think I have one

DrBazza 3y ago

Chrome is the new IE6

gitaarik 3y ago
We need an updated version of this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sKppwrLBY8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sKppwrLBY8

mikepurvis 3y ago

I'm a FF-first user but I definitely have had to keep Chrome around for a few things— my investment banking doesn't load in FF nor do some parts of Office 365.

cycomanic 3y ago
Which parts of office365? I don't have any issues using it on FF. That said I'm not a heavy user (mainly outlook, word, sometimes PowerPoint).
- mikepurvis 3y ago
  Teams maybe? Tbh I'm not totally sure as I'm new to office so I don't spend a lot of time trying to make it work when it's being hinky.

dspillett 3y ago

I'm fully switching to FF at home now. I'd half done it but had a large collection of tabs open in Chrome which kept pulling me back as I couldn't be bothered with reassessing them all (a fair I should have closed) and recording the ones I still wanted to keep elsewhere. Chrome gave me the final push the other day by completely forgetting most of those open items during an update. I'd not encountered anything broken in Chrome that was fixed by FF though. I'll still be primarily Chrome in DayJob though, as most of our clients' users are (with some on Edge, a few using FF, and a couple of idiots still not off IE though we don't officially support that) so that makes sense even though I very rarely touch anything front-end these days.

r3d0c 3y ago
one-tab or supatabs extensions
- dspillett 3y ago
  SuperTabs is Chrom{e|ium} only which doesn't help as I'm moving to FF. OneTab looks partly useful, but often where I came from is important as well as the current tab location, if I've travelled through links “normally” rather than opening in a new tab every time, and I wouldn't expect it to keep that history. Really, I need to get away from using tabs for long-term state rather than finding a better way to use tabs for that. It would make switching UA easier when I want to, and switching machine too for that matter. Also, I've been burned by tab and/or session management extensions going stalky (TheGreatSuspender & friends), or stagnating and failing after a time. I want to move as much state beyond active interactive use away from the browser. I've never kept passwords there or gone in for built-in sync options, but feel the need to take this further. The older I get, the more I see tight integration as a lock-in rather than a benefit.

scruple 3y ago

I've been using Firefox for regular browsing for years now, but I use Chrome for streaming videos (Firefox streaming quality is noticably worse) and LibreWolf for YouTube (blocks ads). It's annoying to have 3 browsers open basically all of the time.

mr_spothawk 3y ago
I'm slowly migrating a lot of my browsing out of Safari and into LibreWolf, and using the opportunity to document accounts/passwords that i want to keep. If i were willing to get an iPhone, then i'd be quite happy with Safari (i don't have Chrome installed on my Mac), but I want the ability to have my bookmarks available on multiple phones & computers... so firefox profiles (in LibreWolf) is the mechanism i've decided to use for that (for now)

toddmorey 3y ago

I love & support Firefox but feel nervous about going all in on it when Mozilla appears to be pivoting away from investing in it.

dheera 3y ago

What would be really cool is a Firefox plugin that allowed you to replace the entire browser tab with a Chromium renderer on a specific website if you so wish, and remember that setting. That way there would really be no need to install Chrome for a few one-off websites. Considering both Firefox and Chromium are open-source it should be entirely possible.

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scotty79 3y ago

Same here. Chrome was just too buggy for me. This year was when I finally made the switch. What helped me was that I switched my phone browser to DuckDuckGo browser. This kind of opened my horizons.