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> Customers must use third-party apps like DoorDash, GrubHub and Uber Eats for food deliveries at the affected chain restaurants. I don't order delivery very o

> Customers must use third-party apps like DoorDash, GrubHub and Uber Eats for food deliveries at the affected chain restaurants. I don't order delivery very often, so I was surprised when the last time I did it, the pizza place that advertised delivery just silently passed the order on to Doordash, with all the downsides of that process (data sharing, increased price, decreased pay for the driver, and generally worse service). Maybe this is just how most places do it now, but I was surprised. I understand that Doordash gives workers the option of being paid minimum wage, but they get money only when the worker is actively making a delivery, so almost by definition that means less than minimum wage in practice. I'm not sure what the fairest strategy would be, because it's not like there are defined shifts for gig workers, but it feels like they could find a better policy than this.

CharlesW 3y ago
> I understand that Doordash gives workers the option of being paid minimum wage… Is it even an option in California? "Guaranteed minimum earnings: When you dash in California you earn at least 120% of minimum wage (based on the local minimum wage at the pick-up location) for active time on the platform (time spent on a delivery, starting from when you accept an offer to when you complete it), plus $0.34 per mile during active time, when driving a motor vehicle (for example, a car, motorcycle, motor scooter)." https://help.doordash.com/dashers/s/california-dashers https://help.doordash.com/dashers/s/california-dashers https://driver-support.grubhub.com/hc/en-us/articles/360053871292-How-does-Prop-22-affect-how-I-m-paid- https://driver-support.grubhub.com/hc/en-us/articles/3600538... > …but they get money only when the worker is actively making a delivery… "Active time" is acceptance to delivery, including wait time.
- karaterobot 3y ago
  It is elsewhere; maybe not in California. There appears to be two payment modes, base pay and earn by time, and the driver can choose which they want to operate under.
whatamidoingyo 3y ago
This happened to me as well. To my surprise, the DoorDash driver didn't actually deliver the pizza, they just grabbed it and went home, I guess. Quite funny. I got a refund.
ranger_danger 3y ago
> with all the downsides of that process (data sharing how is that legal?
- michaelt 3y ago
  If you ask a retailer to ship a widget to your home, I don't imagine it's illegal for them to tell a delivery company the destination name and address when they ship the widget. There's a lot of unreasonable abuse of private data in the US, but this isn't it.

CharlesW 3y ago

> I understand that Doordash gives workers the option of being paid minimum wage… Is it even an option in California? "Guaranteed minimum earnings: When you dash in California you earn at least 120% of minimum wage (based on the local minimum wage at the pick-up location) for active time on the platform (time spent on a delivery, starting from when you accept an offer to when you complete it), plus $0.34 per mile during active time, when driving a motor vehicle (for example, a car, motorcycle, motor scooter)." https://help.doordash.com/dashers/s/california-dashers https://help.doordash.com/dashers/s/california-dashers https://driver-support.grubhub.com/hc/en-us/articles/360053871292-How-does-Prop-22-affect-how-I-m-paid- https://driver-support.grubhub.com/hc/en-us/articles/3600538... > …but they get money only when the worker is actively making a delivery… "Active time" is acceptance to delivery, including wait time.

karaterobot 3y ago
It is elsewhere; maybe not in California. There appears to be two payment modes, base pay and earn by time, and the driver can choose which they want to operate under.

whatamidoingyo 3y ago

This happened to me as well. To my surprise, the DoorDash driver didn't actually deliver the pizza, they just grabbed it and went home, I guess. Quite funny. I got a refund.

ranger_danger 3y ago

> with all the downsides of that process (data sharing how is that legal?

michaelt 3y ago
If you ask a retailer to ship a widget to your home, I don't imagine it's illegal for them to tell a delivery company the destination name and address when they ship the widget. There's a lot of unreasonable abuse of private data in the US, but this isn't it.