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Seems like neocities is not very popular. Are there any other good free alternatives with similar features - except from git based solutions?
by ulrischa 3y ago
Seems like neocities is not very popular. Are there any other good free alternatives with similar features - except from git based solutions?
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- paulddraper 3y agoWhy the git exclusion?
- skrebbel 3y agoYou weren’t responding to me, but my guess it’s because git is 10x harder to learn than basic HTML and CSS.
- hhh 3y agoI wouldn't consider basic git usage 10x that for most people
- skrebbel 3y agoYou can learn enough HTML to make a website without even properly understanding what files and directories are, let alone how to use a terminal. And with Neocities, you also don’t need to understand what it means for files to be “local” or “on a server” because you just get a textarea that you can type your HTML into. (until you get to stuff like using your own images that is) To do “basic git usage” you need to pretty deeply grok all of that before you can even begin to learn git itself. Just to publish a website!
- yallpendantools 3y agoGit and HTML both deal with the (let's face it) complicated data structure we all know as trees. The difference: You can fuck up an HTML tree and most browsers can still display your page[1], you can still get your message across. You fuck up a git history tree and you can somehow summon Cthulhu. Not to mention, even if you can manage to stay away from branch confusion, just dealing with diffs is already a huge barrier for newbies. [1] See "Where HTML 'beats' C" - Computerphile https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-csXdj4WVwA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-csXdj4WVwA
- jimbobthrowawy 3y agoI may be blind to the learning problems since I know git already. But isn't it pretty hard to mess up a git repo if all you do is add+commit? (maybe combined into a "save" button in some UI) Then, asking someone who knows better when you want to do anything more complicated. To me, just being able to save versions and look at them later (like saves in a video game) is such a huge boon that any of the more complicated features don't even need to be touched for git to be worth it.
- Sirizarry 3y agoI’ve helped teach a couple of those full stack web development boot camps a few years ago and you’d be surprised how many things you’d consider difficult to mess up that others will find impossibly difficult to grasp. Perfectly intelligent, rational people suddenly don’t know how to type a command i said like 10 seconds ago.
- ulrischa 3y agoWhat I like is the possibility to send a file to the API from a single board computer. Just a http call - no need to install git or webdav or ftp
- surprisetalk 3y agoI've been maintaining a list on the sidebar here: [1] https://potato.cheap https://potato.cheap The following are also cool projects, but not included in my "cheap" web list due to too much javascript: [2] https://univer.se https://univer.se [3] https://mmm.page https://mmm.page
- marginalia_nu 3y agoNeocities is popular but only within a particular niche. There's a strikingly consistent topic and vibe among neocities-hosted sites compared to e.g. squarespace. Neocities (sans neocities.org-subdomains): https://search.marginalia.nu/search?query=as%3Aneocities+-site%3Aneocities.org&profile=corpo https://search.marginalia.nu/search?query=as%3Aneocities+-si... c.f. Squarespace: https://search.marginalia.nu/search?query=as%3Asquarespace&profile=corpo https://search.marginalia.nu/search?query=as%3Asquarespace&p... (disclosure: I built this search engine)
- victorbjorklund 3y agoNetlify doesnt require git. You can also just upload a folder.
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