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Photo Voltaic, or PV, of course. 14 GW just in 2023 alone. Note that Gigawatts is the installed capacity, but GWh is the actual production. Germany produces 2
by simonebrunozzi 3y ago
Photo Voltaic, or PV, of course.
14 GW just in 2023 alone.
Note that Gigawatts is the installed capacity, but GWh is the actual production. Germany produces 2.5 times more energy from wind, rather than solar (quite intuitive, considering that solar is much less productive in Germany compared to, say, Greece or northern Africa).
From Wikipedia [0]:
Germany's installed capacity for electric generation increased from 121 gigawatts (GW) in 2000 to 218 GW in 2019, an 80% increase, while electricity generation increased only 5% in the same period.
[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electricity_sector_in_Germany https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electricity_sector_in_Germany
- hurril 3y agoAnd then it stops blowing so they buy all our Swedish electricity, making us all pay for the german environment. Except the germans.
- Zetobal 3y agoGermany is a net energy exporter... in the last two years especially helping out the crippled french nuclear power systems.
- ffgjgf1 3y agoThat was only possible because of coal plants. If that’s unavoidable I’m sure most French people prefer that’s burned in Germany rather than France.
- lispm 3y agoHalf of the French nuclear power plant fleet was offline in 2022. -> https://www.catf.us/2023/07/2022-french-nuclear-outages-lessons-nuclear-energy-europe/ https://www.catf.us/2023/07/2022-french-nuclear-outages-less...
- oezi 3y agoThe Germans certainly don't want to export dirty coal power but my understanding was that they were essentially aiding France to overcome a summer of draughts which crippled the mono-culture in France.
- uecker 3y agoSummer droughts and also high energy use in winter with electric heating is where France regularly depends on imports.
- hurril 3y agoExporting coal power. Lovely.
- skywal_l 3y agoIn the last two years only. FTFY
- pgeorgi 3y agoThe "help out the French" thing was a temporary situation due to France's power plant maintenance issues but on an annual basis Germany has been a net electricity exporter since 2003: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1331853/electricity-imports-exports-germany/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/1331853/electricity-impo...
- danielbln 3y agoWe don't pay? We paid like 40 cents per kwh im late 2022, vs 26 cents in Sweden. Feel free to blame whoever, but German end consumers are probably not to blame.
- ffgjgf1 3y ago> but German end consumers are probably not to blame. If they overlap with the German voters who voted for Merkel and especially Schroder (who literally became an agent working for the Russian government after he left office) before that then we can certainly blame them.
- oezi 3y agoCertainly mistakes were made, but please recall that it is primarily market forces which led us to the German gas dependence. Russian gas was just cheaper than American and Qatari gas.
- hurril 3y agoWe pay that and more because both Germany and Sweden decided that nuclear power is a bad idea. You would pay even more if we weren't selling, which in a sense would be more fair because then you would bear the consequences of your own actions. Downvote me all you want, dear germans.
- icehawk 3y agoI don't understand what you mean by that?
- hurril 3y agoWhen your energy mix is biased towards wind and solar, the market price for energy fluctuates with the weather, basically. So when there's a lot of wind in an area, then energy is cheap (and the wind farms lose money.) When there's no wind, energy becomes expensive and the wind farms lose money. This means that base power generation from nuclear also loses money when there's a lot of wind, and that coal power is needed when there isn't any [wind.] So we all pay more _and_ destroy the environment more. When there's no wind in Germany, they buy from the energy market, driving up prices all the way up to what Coal and Oil power generation costs (which is expensive and terrible), since that is the competition. And since everyone pays market prices, we all suffer from Germany's lack of nuclear. (And ours.) In a sense: Germany has socialised their energy production. If I was conspiratorical, I would say that Russia played Germany like a fiddle in this regard. Cancel your nuclear so that you have to buy gas for energy production. And here we are. Thank you Sweden and Germany.
- wazoox 3y agoActually it has been revealed that Gazprom supported financially anti-nuclear and pro-renewable NGOs in Germany for many, many years. That's not conspirational, just a fact.
- pgeorgi 3y agoGermany's location means that it's a logistics hub. Gas, electricity, goods - large percentages of each are going into Germany on one end and leave it on another.
- KptMarchewa 3y agoYour power plants earn that money. Tax it or something.
- lm28469 3y agoThe main problem with renewable energies, at least in Germany, is that they're not replacing anything, they're just added on top of existing fossil sources, so in the end we still pollute as much and we're still as far as ever from our end goal. The fact that we consume so much more just hides the truth behind nice percentages. The reality is that Germany burns as much fossil fuel as they were 20 years ago, and on top of that they offer the most expensive end user kwh price of Europe https://www.cleanenergywire.org/sites/default/files/styles/gallery_image/public/paragraphs/images/fig1-installed-net-power-generation-capacity-germany-2002-2023.png?itok=FaxUA7uM https://www.cleanenergywire.org/sites/default/files/styles/g... https://www.intotheminds.com/blog/app/uploads/cheap-electricity-prices-europe.png https://www.intotheminds.com/blog/app/uploads/cheap-electric...
- sdk16420 3y agoYou are confusing installed capacity with power used. The consumed power is going down since the early 2000s, but since the generated power by most renewables depends on the weather and season, more reserve capacity needs to be installed. https://www.cleanenergywire.org/factsheets/germanys-energy-consumption-and-power-mix-charts https://www.cleanenergywire.org/factsheets/germanys-energy-c...
- asdefghyk 3y agoThe reserve capacity , would need to be 100% - to be able to supply the country for at least several days if/when renables are not able to produce , most likely due to weather.
- ben_w 3y agoThe capacity doesn't have to be constantly burning fuel 365 days a year in order to solve weather issues, just for however long the combination of startup/shutdown time and adverse weather duration. Adverse weather conditions can be predicted sufficiently well in advance that this matters.
- woodruffw 3y ago