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I think the problem with the right wing politicians was that they were presenting their warped view of reality as fact?

by Aeolun 3y ago

fourseventy 3y ago
As if the left wing politicians dont also present warped facts.
- kahnclusions 3y ago
  Not to the same degree or extent… the departure from reality and rejection of any facts they don’t like, rejection of scientific thinking, is waaaaay way more of a right wing problem.
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- Aeolun 3y ago
  Left wing politicians have the tendency to overstate things, but (in my experience) they don’t often make up things altogether. Something about the idealism required to be a left wing politician in this political climate?
- benedictkroll 3y ago
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canadiantim 3y ago
That's what everyone says when they want to censor someone they don't like
- Aeolun 3y ago
  I’m fairly certain this was found to be true by various sources. Of course if you are already disinclined to accept that because it doesn’t align with your view of reality, there’s not much I can say to change it.
  - canadiantim 3y ago
    If you provided the sources it would help to atleast have a productive discussion of the merits of that point of view. Without the sources it just sounds like you don't like right-wing politicians.
    - Aeolun 3y ago
      While that is true, I have found that quoting sources doesn’t particularly help unless people are already inclined to believe me, so it just wastes my time to find them every time. Might be cynical, but ultimately I don’t really believe I can change any minds just with a comment. If you ask why I make the comment in the first place then, that’s a good question.
      - canadiantim 3y ago
        That is quite understandable. I don't think you not wanting to waste your time finding sources is cynical. The part about not believing minds can be changed might be a bit cynical, but probably warranted given the state of online discourse today. I'd suggest tho not looking at it as trying to change anyone's mind so much as having just a productive discussion where all parties involved learn something, e.g. with sources being explicit there's prly details that would be learned on both sides. Anyway, happy holidays

I think the problem with the right wing politicians was that they were presenting their warped view of reality as fact?

by Aeolun 3y ago

I think the problem with the right wing politicians was that they were presenting their warped view of reality as fact?

fourseventy 3y ago

As if the left wing politicians dont also present warped facts.

kahnclusions 3y ago
Not to the same degree or extent… the departure from reality and rejection of any facts they don’t like, rejection of scientific thinking, is waaaaay way more of a right wing problem.
- fourseventy 3y ago
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Aeolun 3y ago
Left wing politicians have the tendency to overstate things, but (in my experience) they don’t often make up things altogether. Something about the idealism required to be a left wing politician in this political climate?
benedictkroll 3y ago
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canadiantim 3y ago

That's what everyone says when they want to censor someone they don't like

Aeolun 3y ago
I’m fairly certain this was found to be true by various sources. Of course if you are already disinclined to accept that because it doesn’t align with your view of reality, there’s not much I can say to change it.
- canadiantim 3y ago
  If you provided the sources it would help to atleast have a productive discussion of the merits of that point of view. Without the sources it just sounds like you don't like right-wing politicians.
  - Aeolun 3y ago
    While that is true, I have found that quoting sources doesn’t particularly help unless people are already inclined to believe me, so it just wastes my time to find them every time. Might be cynical, but ultimately I don’t really believe I can change any minds just with a comment. If you ask why I make the comment in the first place then, that’s a good question.
    - canadiantim 3y ago
      That is quite understandable. I don't think you not wanting to waste your time finding sources is cynical. The part about not believing minds can be changed might be a bit cynical, but probably warranted given the state of online discourse today. I'd suggest tho not looking at it as trying to change anyone's mind so much as having just a productive discussion where all parties involved learn something, e.g. with sources being explicit there's prly details that would be learned on both sides. Anyway, happy holidays